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Datto Launches Datto Drive For SMBs; Offers 1TB at $10 a Month For Unlimited Users (dattodrive.com)

Austin McChord, Datto's founder writes: In the era of nearly free cloud storage why on earth am I paying $15 a month per user (for Dropbox and Box). This seems absurd. As the founder of a cloud storage company I thought we could fix this. We combined OwnCloud which is an enterprise level open source file sync and share solution with our skills in infrastructure. Today we are launching Datto Drive, a file sync and share service for businesses that costs just $10 a month for unlimited users and 1TB of combined storage. To get started we are giving the first year away free for the first million businesses that sign up. One thing I'm worried about is whether this service will exist for more than a couple of years. We've seen plenty of startups offer us interesting services at great prices over the past few years, but many of them disappear. Tech Republic has more information about the aforementioned service. Update: 05/02 17:09 GMT by M : Reader torrija points us to a service called HubiC which offers 10TB for 5 euro a month. He adds that the feature is limited to one user, though.

51 comments

  1. Sponsored Stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Sponsored Stories should either be better disguised or straight up labeled. If this isn't a sponsored ad then it should be since it's 100% advertising.

  2. ars technica by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever put up the post about moving more toward Ars a couple of months ago: Thank you! An actual tech site and not this lame, fly-by-night crap known as Slashdot. Between PhysOrg and Ars I can pretty much proclaim that Slashdork is dead to me. No more lame political crap. No more trying to justify every as good or bad depending on the name badge a product carries. No more incompetent "editors" who are obviously getting paid to hit a button to promote a random story to the front page every half hour while spending the rest of their time playing Call of Duty and eating Cheetos.

    There you have it folks: Ars Technica and PhysOrg. Or at the very least try out Soylent News.

    1. Re:ars technica by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You say this, and yet obviously you are still here...

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    2. Re:ars technica by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      That's it, I'm going to Kiro5hin.

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  3. slashdot = paid infomercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It isn't even disguised as a news story.

  4. Not another Cloud backup... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Get Venture Capital. Offer free cloud backup... Hope to attain customers from free PR. Find out things aren't profitable = shut down in 2 years.

    Citrix sharing/cloud platform is what $60 a month for 1TB and 5 employees. And companies will still use it over xyz cloud box drop whatever. Because of the name, reliability and service.

    But at $60 a month it's possible to make money and it's a real service offering and business. At $10 a month, you have hope that the vast majority of customers store 1gb or something absurd.

    That and most SMB and business owners get tired of these fly by night companies and moving their data around....

    1. Re:Not another Cloud backup... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the meantime Datto is the only mainstream backup provider not supporting reFS.

  5. Slashvert... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes indeed.

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    1. Re:Slashvert... by Zibodiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While this is the case, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the headline wasn't clickbaity, and pretty well summarized the ad. Also, even the summary said it was written by the company itself; it didn't try to pretend it was some sort of grassroots movement.
      Kudos, /.

    2. Re:Slashvert... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just an advert, but a silly one. $10 per month, or $120 per year. My NAS box offers 1TB of storage too. And it doesn't get hacked by the cloud. And I can access it whenever I like. And it costs a whole lot less than $10 per month (more like $.2 per month). And I know where my data is. And I know the prying 5 eyes can't snoop it (like they can with cloud data). And I know the Chinese can't snoop it (like they can with cloud data). To get at my data, they have to find where I am, break in and physically get at the data (its on a local lan, not connected to the internet). Just sayin'.

    3. Re:Slashvert... by msmash · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hi, I'm the editor who approved the submission. I found it interesting and thought readers here will find it useful. It's not an advertisement, and I intentionally edited the headline and body text to make things clear.

    4. Re:Slashvert... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is similar to what Gmail did to inbox sizes and I don't remember people complaining about it being an ad back then (could be wrong, but I'm too lazy to check). I for one am interested to see how long this company lasts or if they're really just trying to get bought out by someone wanting to squash the service.

    5. Re:Slashvert... by karnal · · Score: 1

      And it can get burned down in a fire. Different strokes for different folks.

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    6. Re:Slashvert... by jonxor · · Score: 1

      I don't think the company lasting will be a problem... http://www.forbes.com/sites/st... (Full disclosure, I work there)

    7. Re:Slashvert... by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 1

      The Datto website seems lite on details. Can you provide any information about redundancy and safety of the data?

    8. Re:Slashvert... by jonxor · · Score: 0

      The dattoDrive storage uses the same redundancy as other cloud storage ( http://www.datto.com/technolog... ).

    9. Re:Slashvert... by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Can it be accessed by ftp?

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    10. Re:Slashvert... by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 2

      Ooookay... that still tells me nothing. "In the cloud" could mean replicated on one server, it could mean several servers, it could mean several different recovery zones. It could mean raid none, it could mean raid several, it could mean extra raid. It could mean offsite backups. It could mean fire sprinkled or not, underground and subject to flooding, high airflow vs no airflow...

    11. Re:Slashvert... by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 1

      Backup generators on-site? What speed is the connection / who is your networking partner?

    12. Re:Slashvert... by jonxor · · Score: 1

      Hey guys, Sorry for lack of response here, Have been working hard today. I'll try to get that for you ASAP.

    13. Re:Slashvert... by unrtst · · Score: 2

      $10 per month, or $120 per year. My NAS box offers 1TB of storage too. ...

      You noted it's on your lan. While that has its own advantages, it's not offsite. You also imply that it can't be accessed externally. That's your choice, but that's a huge limitation. Even if you did allow external access, your upload speed (which would be the download speed for you while you're away from home) is likely to be FAR slower than this service, or anything with a proper presence.

      Your home NAS certainly has value, but this fulfills a completely different need. And, for $120/year, getting 1TB for unlimited users is a pretty awesome deal compared to its competition, but they all take on some odd mix of limitations that make them a bit difficult to directly compare. They also have slightly different feature sets (ex. limited OS support, sync vrs backup and everywhere in between, encryption (client side, in transit, at rest, etc), etc).

      Just a couple examples:
      dropbox(sync): $99/year, 1TB space, one user
      dropbox(sync) business: $180/year/user, unlimited space, one user
      crashplan(backup): $60/year, unlimited storage, one COMPUTER
      crashplan(backup) family: $150/year, unlimited storage, 2-10 computers
      spideroak(backup+sync): $130/year, 1TB storage, 1 user
      datto drive(sync): $120/year, 1TB space, unlimited users

      I'm not exactly sure how to directly compare those. It will all depend significantly on your expected usage, number of users, volume of data, and desired features. Some of them compare a little more easily than others. Datto is the only one I'm aware of with unlimited users, which could offer some interesting solutions. For example, if you resold it per-user, you could sell 10 accounts at 10gb each for $1/month each and break even, or oversubscribe it.... though I'm sure the ToS does not allow resale like that.

  6. On the other hand --- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can buy a 1 TB network drive for $50 that allows Unlimited Users + 1
    So for $120 per year you can get RAID, too. If you have any sort of functioning IT dept they can run circles around all these "cloud based" systems.
    If they can't afford a tape drive, they can make backups to Blu-Rays. $100 is enough to get you started.

  7. A million users - free for a year?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To get started we are giving the first year away free for the first million businesses that sign up.

    And at $10/month that's giving away $120 million in revenue for the first year.

    If they can do that, then their overhead must be minuscule. Meaning, they probably could charge $1/ month and still make money.

  8. I'll store my own data, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll keep my own data private, thank you.

    1. Re:I'll store my own data, thanks by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      OK sure. But I can see a new Linux distribution using something like this in addition to a VPS like Linode provides to host their repository.

      $10/mo for a webserver with plenty of bandwidth, another $10/mo for a TB of storage...

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    2. Re:I'll store my own data, thanks by zlives · · Score: 1

      too lazy to read the FA but "plenty of bandwidth" was that actually mentioned?
      sounds like a perfect video repository then.

    3. Re:I'll store my own data, thanks by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Linode has plenty of bandwidth ... so you set your 'node up as a reverse caching proxy that pulls content as it is requested from the Datto storage

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  9. The real questions by Orgasmatron · · Score: 1

    After opening the links in the story in new tabs to read before commenting, I noticed something disturbing. The real questions we all need to be asking are, "Who the hell decided that browsers should support animated favicons? Were they not alive during the MARQUEE tag era?"

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    1. Re:The real questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. Using GIFs you can mimic scrolling marquees and the blink tag. Remove those HTML tags only made it harder to block them. In a few hundred browser releases (maybe just 3 for IE), we'll soon have to worry about favicon HTML injection as the core browser UIs move to full HTML instead of native control elements.

  10. Mod parent dice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need a -1, Dice moderation for when these idiotic adverts get through!

    RIP, Rob Malda. He died so young. :(

    1. Re:Mod parent dice! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0

      We need a -1, Dice moderation for when these idiotic adverts get through!

      Dice no longer owns Slashdot. The new Overlords seem to be doing a little better, perhaps this just "slipped by",

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  11. SMBs? by fhage · · Score: 0
    Google says Datto wants to aim at "Suck my Balls". I'm not sure I want that.

    Server Message Block protocol's didn't make sense, so I looked it up.

    1. Re:SMBs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMBs = Small to Medium Businesses

    2. Re:SMBs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMB is the next step up in size from SOHO. "Small and Medium Businesses" and "Small Office / Home Office", respectively.

  12. You're joking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OwnCloud [...] is an enterprise level open source file sync and share solution

    If you're not trying to be funny there and failing horrifically at it, I don't know what that is.

  13. There are better offers out there by torrija · · Score: 1

    I use hubiC (https://hubic.com/en/). 10TB for 5€/month. Single user though.

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    1. Re:There are better offers out there by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Good price but can I access the storage by ftp?

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    2. Re:There are better offers out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, dude, you shouldn't be able to access storage (except for anonymous download) by ftp anywhere. Use sftp for God's sake.

  14. Bitcasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember when Bitcasa had a One-Time fee for Unlimited storage. I also remember when they switched to subscription model from. I managed to put 8TB of data before the switch.
    OneDrive will soon change their free model to only 5GB, today I have 30gb and use 25 of it.
    I bet that their "bait and switch" next year will cost double or triple that cost.

  15. Owncloud? For real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    First, Owncloud is NOT enterprise level, by any stretch of the imagination. We evaluated this steaming shitpile a couple of months ago for our enterprise, and it was woefully lacking, and very unstable once the datastore surpassed about 300GB of material to keep track of.

    Second, redundant disks are cheap. A SMB will almost assuredly need more than 1TB of storage at some point, and by the time you get there you may as well just build your own datastore.

    Cloud has its uses, but cheap data storage isn't really one of them. It's hard to make storage cheaper in the cloud than it is on site.

  16. Re:Be Afraid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So are you saying he's not dead? or that our gov't lied about what exactly happened so they got more money and public support?

  17. FTC directive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't they issue something about being clear about these things?

  18. Mod this up! by burni2 · · Score: 1

    Yes, Hubic must be much better and cheaper, I hope,
    but it's good to counter the slashvertisement with antitisement.

  19. ssh, iscsi, rsync+ssh, protocol control exclusion? by burni2 · · Score: 1

    hubic: "We secure everything by ssl" .. lol, which ssl? the buggy, the bad or the good one?

    And you can read my files, I really like that!

    but
    But I think its a nice offer, to use as an ultra cheap backup solution. I hope they don't mind that I upload files with their hashvalues as filenames and being encrypted.

  20. Datto is a reputable online backup vendor for biz by Fencepost · · Score: 2

    Datto's been around for a while and has some very nice products for onsite and online backup for businesses. They're not inexpensive, but one of the big things they offer is continuity - if you're using one of their appliances for online backup and a server goes down, you can spin up the most recent backup of that server as a VM on their hardware, with all connections tunneled back through the backup device on your network.

    Basically, ServerA has a hardware failure. Whoever's handling backups fires up the online backup image (or in-office depending on the size of appliance), the local backup appliance grabs the IP of the down server and tunnels all traffic to/from that local IP out to the remote VM. Not an ideal way to run, but functional for keeping at least core things going.

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  21. BackBlaze? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am surprised no one has mentioned Backblaze (https://www.backblaze.com/). *Unlimited* personal backup from $5/month; and business plans from $50/year.

  22. Why pay? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Why should you be paying? Because while storage is cheap, backups are expensive.

    It seems to make sense to pay to never hear "we lost your data, sorry", but unortunately providers do not tell much about how they do backups.

  23. Wow, that's a narrow demographic by neminem · · Score: 1

    How many Super Mario Brothers *are* there, let alone ones that want to buy those drives?