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Oceans Could Soon Not Have Enough Oxygen To Support Marine Life (iflscience.com)

An anonymous reader writes: As the climate continues to change in response to the increasing amount of carbon humans pump into the atmosphere, the oceans are being particularly hard hit from melting Arctic sea ice, acidification, and warming surface temperatures. Yet those are not the only difficulties that marine life has to deal with, as a new study reports that the oceans are also losing oxygen. As the majority of marine life relies on the oxygen dissolved in the oceans, it is worrying that noticeable differences have been observed in the gas concentrations in the world's waters. The reduction in oxygen will have profound effects on ocean biodiversity, though as the study published in Global Biogeochemical Cycles shows, not all regions will be affected in the same way or over the same period of time."Loss of oxygen in the ocean is one of the serious side effects of a warming atmosphere, and a major threat to marine life," said lead author Matthew Long of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. "Since oxygen concentrations in the ocean naturally vary depending on variations in winds and temperature at the surface, it's been challenging to attribute any deoxygenation to climate change. This new study tells us when we can expect the impact from climate change to overwhelm the natural variability."

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  1. Giant Bubbler by dfn5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I propose the installation of a giant aquarium bubbler at the bottom of the ocean.

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    1. Re:Giant Bubbler by shadowrat · · Score: 4, Funny

      I propose the installation of a giant aquarium bubbler at the bottom of the ocean.

      the treasure chest that opens to release a torrent of built up bubbles is a classic, but i've always been partial to the skeleton at the helm with his head bobbing in the air stream.

    2. Re: Giant Bubbler by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about getting Trump and a couple of other politicians to blow into that straw? Only problem might be raising the ocean temperature with all of that hot air.

    3. Re: Giant Bubbler by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      I just want to see how big the plastic treasure chest is that lets that many bubbles out!

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  2. Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't want to be a dolphin right now.

  3. Re:Polar ice caps might all melt away too... by prefec2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The polar caps are melting. They are melting even faster than anticipated. However, if you do not trust scientists you can just measure the CO2 levels of your ocean next to you. It is not really difficult. You can google how to build a proper probe. Beside that you could trust the scientists, as they would all keep their jobs in case of no global warming, because we would still want to know how the atmosphere works, how the see works etc.

  4. Re:Polar ice caps melting faster than expected by Layzej · · Score: 4, Informative

    They were wrong about the ice caps melting,

    The arctic ice cap is melting much faster than predicted: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicen...

  5. Fixed this already by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get Billy Mays to use his stuff, it'll fix it. You may also get your clothes cleaned at the same time.

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  6. The use of "could" invalidates the entire post by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oceans Could Soon Not Have Enough Oxygen To Support Marine Life

    The use of "could" makes the entire statement unfalsifiable and therefor non-scientific. We get these in popular press — /. included — about weekly.

    For several decades now such doom-sayers have been predicting disasters "soon" without a single one of them getting anywhere close. When the predicted time passes and anyone still has the attention span to ask: "Hey, was that wrong?" — the answer, if any, is: "We never said, it will happen, only that it could."

    Basing public policy on these "predictions" is completely bogus. Geico's "promise" of "15 minutes could save you 15%" is as reliable — and more fun too.

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    1. Re:The use of "could" invalidates the entire post by riverat1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      mi is still arguing like a lawyer. A year or so ago I gave him a link to an article that compared temperature and sea level rise to model projections and showed the models were mostly right on temperature and lagging on sea level rise. Here's a different one that does the same comparison of observations in 2007 to the projections from the IPCC 2001 (AR3) report which started its projections in 1990. But instead of taking in the information mi will reject it because it's not in his cherished format. If mi had any gumption he'd look up the projections from the AR3 report and the observations from 2007 to have his cherished 2 sources and see if what the paper said is true. Instead he's unwilling to meet anyone halfway and wants it all handed to him on a silver platter. Like I said, he argues like a lawyer.

  7. No. Might in 2030 have detectable decrease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look at the paper. It doesn't say that oxygen is decreasing to dangerous levels. It says that computers think that by 2030 it might be possible to measure a certain decrease in oxygen in certain places. The change is too small to measure at present, if that change is happening.

  8. HGTTG by number6x · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just got this package delivered fedex...

    It's a kind of vase thingy with the words 'So long, and thanks for all the fish.' etched into it.

    Really pretty, but I think it means that the dolphins are going to be OK.

  9. Re:Polar ice caps melting faster than expected by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Al Gore

    DRINK!

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  10. Re:Some perspective here... by cats-paw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    -The ocean is alkaline, which means that stronger base electrolytes (as compared to the weak carbonic acid) still dominate the charge balance.

    however the ocean is becoming more acidic, and that trend will continue. saying it's still basic is not reassuring in the least.

    -This is an El Nino year, the higher surface temperature will release more oxygen from the ocean because gas solubility decreases with increasing temperature.

    chances are good that El Nino year's will become more common, in part because the oceans' average temperatures will contiune to rise. so we can expect the ocean to continue to lose more oxygen.

    -Most of the world's oxygen comes from the phytoplankton [earthsky.org], and their population dynamics are remarkably challenging to model. However, if they are not dying en masse, then the oxygen production will remain about the same; some may be redistributed.

    what is en masse ? do you think we could detect a population drop of 5% or 10% ? is that en masse ? would it affect ocean oxygen levels ? yes, yes it would.

    -The sky indeed is remaining above us, and not falling.

    oh it absolutely is falling. slowly perhaps, maybe it will take 1 or 2 centuries. maybe a lot less.
    And your point is that I shouldn't listen to the warnings from scientists, because they're all hysterical, but i should listen you ?
    so we should do nothing until we're sure we're all going to die or something ?

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  11. Re:Cue the Tired Old White Men... by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to tell if your post is racist: Replace the politically correct racial target with a politically incorrect one making the exact same statement and wait for SJWs to attack.

    Racist much?

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  12. Most of the Oxygen You Breath Comes From the Ocean by catchblue22 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Simple fact: Most of the oxygen you breath comes from the ocean.

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  13. Re:Some perspective here... by dywolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    odd that you missed the point even though you specifically stated it:water holds less dissolved oxygen as it gets warmer.
    the ocean is getting warmer. O2 content is measurably going down, even without the effects if El Nino. phytoplankton oxygen production is completely irrelevant to that discussion.

    and yes the ocean is currently alkaline, but that doesn't mean it's not acidifying. acidifying != acidic. to be acidic pH needs to be below 7, but to be acidifying it merely needs to be moving from a higher pH to a lower pH, which it is measurably doing.

    your post is meaningless deflection, and certainly not insightful.

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  14. Oh, it's just a simulation by mbeckman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Secure from battle stations, environmental joiners. Nobody has actually _measured_ a depletion trend for O2 in the Earth's oceans. It's all based on dodgy climate simulations:

    To cut through this natural variability and investigate the impact of climate change, the research team—including Curtis Deutsch of the University of Washington and Taka Ito of Georgia Tech—relied on the NCAR-based Community Earth System Model, which is funded by the National Science Foundation and the U.S. Department of Energy...Using the simulations to study dissolved oxygen gave the researchers guidance on how much concentrations may have varied naturally in the past. With this information, they could determine when ocean deoxygenation due to climate change is likely to become more severe than at any point in the modeled historic range.

    Note to readers of research papers: phrases such as "relied on", "gave the researchers guidance", and "is likely to become" are all code words for "we don't have any real data."

    Let us know when you do. Otherwise, file this report in the fiction section.

  15. Garbag by Alomex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Climate change is real, and something needs to be done about it, but this chicken little "the sky is falling" articles hurt rather than help the cause. They give specific worst case targets that are unlikely to be true just to get a headline. These can then be used by climate deniers to minimize the real impacts of climate change.