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Windows 10 Updates Are Now Ruining Pro-Gaming Streams (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader cites a report on The Guardian: Perhaps there's nothing more annoying than going in for the kill to suddenly be "pooped on" by a Windows 10 automatic installation taking out your computer mid-stream to your 130,000 or so followers. After deciding to advertise during the weather by attempting to automatically install midway through a forecast, Windows 10 is starting to wreak havoc with gamers. Ex-professional Counter Strike player turned full-time streamer Erik Flom was rudely interrupted mid-game and live on Twitch by Windows 10 automatically installing on his PC. "What. What!? How did this happen! Fuck you Windows 10!" Flom said. "Oh my God! You had one job PC. We turned off everything. Update faster you fuck!"
if it's a video, use something made for video. Here's a youtube link to the event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Windows 10 interrupts a live on-air weather forecast. http://betanews.com/2016/04/27...
Topical reference with no link. Here's what they were referring to.
It randomly turns itself back on with other updates.
YOU have control over cron jobs.
MICROSOFT has control over your Windows PC. Not you.
The problem is not computer literacy but a lack of control over Windows Update in Windows 10. While earlier versions had options like "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them" and "Download updates but let me chose whether to install them" Windows 10 has no such options. Windows 10 just downloads and installs the updates at a set time (3:00am).
As for turning off Win 10 crapware, Windows Update isn't really crapware but an essential feature to get security updates. Turning it off would not be a good idea.
This is the issue with Windows Update in Windows 10, your options are to turn it off entirely and get no security updates, or let it do whatever you want. If you don't want a particular update there's not much you can do. If you uninstall it Windows 10 update will just reinstall it. You can use the tool to defer a particular update (which is a separate download and doesn't come with Windows 10), but the update will still get installed when a newer version comes out.
You basically have no control.
Unless you're doing something retarded, chron shouldn't be interfering with anything you do. Might consume background resources depending on what you've configured, but shouldn't ever pop any surprise windows or prompts, ever.
You can install GWX Control Panel and set it to remove all Windows 10 items. Then turn on monitoring, in the program, so that when Microsoft tries to get around your wishes, you'll get a notification of it.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept of people not just making a little side money, but actually apparently a few making a decent living by streaming themselves playing fucking video games?!?!?
I mean seriously...people are paying people to do this?
Wow. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't suffer anyone that making a buck any (legal) way they can, but really...someone can make up to and over 6-figures just by playing video games?
Who the fuck is PAYING these folks to sit and watch them...???
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Actually, depending on your windows update settings, windows 10 can fully automatically install without any user intervention, and in fact does so. What happens though is it upgrades you're machine to 10, boots to it, and then shows you an EULA, which if you decline, then it downgrades back to 7.
This is really not a nice thing to do to your customers, and even automatically uninstalls software that it deems incompatible with 10.
GWX Control Panel FTW.
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You know your product sucks when other people create and distribute code to prevent your product from succeeding. Tobacco vendors get more love.
Steve Gibson (grc.com) has written a tiny freeware program called "Never10" https://www.grc.com/never10.ht... (Warning: GRC has always been an ugly website). It's basically a simple user interface to the Windows GPE and other tools that Microsoft provided but made difficult to find.
Steve Gibson (grc.com) has written a tiny freeware program called "Never10" https://www.grc.com/never10.ht... (Warning: GRC has always been an ugly website). It's basically a simple user interface to the Windows GPE and other tools that Microsoft provided but made difficult to find.
Who the fuck is PAYING these folks to sit and watch them...???
Last year, more people physically traveled to a stadium to watch the League of Legends finals than did so for the College basketball finals.
Think about that a bit.
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No you can't. At least, not as well as the guys getting paid to do it. If you could, you would either be getting paid to do it, or at least know enough to not argue that pro video gaming is any different than pro sports.
Yes.
Import this into your registry.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001
I've done this on 4 or 5 machines at work that we have to keep on 7 and any sign of Windows 10 has completely vanished.
Hope this helps.
So far it should be sufficient to limit Windows Update to "important" updates but don't let it collect "recommended" updates. KB3035583 is only "recommended", not "important".
If you don't trust Microsoft even that far, you could switch off Windows Update and use a third-party tool like WSUS Offline Update instead (http://www.wsusoffline.net/) which will do essentially the same, with some extra blacklisting by the maker of WSUS Offline Update.
Obviously this means trusting some guy on the internet more than Microsoft, but WSUS Offline Update has a good reputation so far and my own experience with it is positive.
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Many streamers have two PCs - one to run the game, and one to do the streaming, connected via an hdmi capture card. Only the game PC started the update.
Most streamers use a separate streaming PC that captures the video output from the gaming PC as well as receiving audio and displaying the overlays onscreen. Probably the case here.
After looking at the video, it appeared to me that the streamer ALREADY had Windows 10. This was just an update (note the screen said "Installing updates FOR Windows 10).
In my experience, the update doesn't kick off automatically unless you have hit the "snooze" button (told Windows to wait) a few times over several days. Windows then just says "Fuck it" and installs anyway. Usually right when you are in the middle of something.
I'm not defending the practice. It sucks in my book, but that has been my experience.
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
Finally this is getting mainstream attention. Windows automatically updating with a big "fuck you" while you're doing work - and not even saving your fucking work - is one of the biggest most blatant lack of regard for their users I've ever seen. I shudder at how many man-years of work have been lost by this process.
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Wesnoth? I suppose I could play that. Or one of the many other free games that are worth playing.
Or I could play one of the thousands of linux native games available on steam (4321 games according to http://store.steampowered.com/...) or gog or from humble bundles etc.
Many or most of those 4000+ games are probably crap, but the same is true for Windows games. 90% of everything is crap (according to Ted Sturgeon's famously pollyannaish adage).
Or I could play one of the thousands more windows games that work in WINE.
10+ years ago, I used to play games exclusively with WINE on Linux. Several years later, I built a Win7 box to play the games I purchased that wouldn't run (or ran badly) on WINE (most of which run perfectly on wine now).
In a year or two, I expect I'll be dumping the Win7 box and switching to exclusively playing Linux native games + WINE for the handful of windows-only games that i actually care about. I have more games in my steam account (on both Windows and Linux) than I have time to play...I don't feel that there's any lack of games available.
I certainly won't be running Windows 10, because my computers belong to me, not to Microsoft. And I have no wish to become Microsoft's product to be sold to advertisers and other spies.
(and, yes, I have removed/disabled/firewalled their spyware from Win7 - whatever it takes)