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Windows 10 Updates Are Now Ruining Pro-Gaming Streams (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader cites a report on The Guardian: Perhaps there's nothing more annoying than going in for the kill to suddenly be "pooped on" by a Windows 10 automatic installation taking out your computer mid-stream to your 130,000 or so followers. After deciding to advertise during the weather by attempting to automatically install midway through a forecast, Windows 10 is starting to wreak havoc with gamers. Ex-professional Counter Strike player turned full-time streamer Erik Flom was rudely interrupted mid-game and live on Twitch by Windows 10 automatically installing on his PC. "What. What!? How did this happen! Fuck you Windows 10!" Flom said. "Oh my God! You had one job PC. We turned off everything. Update faster you fuck!"

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  1. Irony!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long have Windows gamers been making fun of Linux?

    1. Re:Irony!!! by cfalcon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Linux is great for gaming. It runs Linux games without issue, and even many Windows games.

      Windows is terrible for gaming: it only runs Windows games.

      What you mean to say goes something like "It sure is unfortunate that developers don't build Linux versions of their games. I guess game developers suck at Linux!"

  2. Re:Computer literacy is at all times low by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?

    Most people in the office use computers all day, and still had no idea that you can Ctrl-C to copy selected text.

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  3. Re:Computer literacy is at all times low by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?

    Why would being good at administrating a computer mean that you could disable Windows 10 -related updates?

  4. Re:What the hell is 'Pro Gaming'? by hesiod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are we allowing Video Gaming to become a spectator sport?

    Why do you think you should have a say in "allowing" something to become a "spectator sport"? It affects you in almost no way whatsoever. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Other people do like watching it, so let them spend their time and money on what they enjoy. I think it's idiotic, but idiots will do what idiots do.

  5. Re:Computer literacy is at all times low by sinij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?

    Kids these days, real gamers used to know how to free 640K better than anyone else.

  6. Re:What the hell is 'Pro Gaming'? by Scarred+Intellect · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aside from the whole problem of 'Pro Gaming' in general: what the heck? Why are we allowing Video Gaming to become a spectator sport? Personally I don't care about somebody's spot on a leaderboard. I go into games like World of Warcraft to immerse myself in a virtual world. Once you accept that there are 'winners' in such endeavors, you automatically become a loser.

    Aside from the whole problem of "Pro Sports" in general: what the heck? Why are we allowing football to become a spectator sport? Personally I don't care about somebody's spot on a line of scrimmage. I go into games like football to immerse myself in the physical sport. Once you accept that there are 'winners' in such endeavors, you automatically become a loser.

    What's with all the negative "I don't care, surely no one else does! Why is this on Slashdot?!" comments lately? Go moderate the firehose.

    To respond directly to your comment, most IT professionals aren't even professionals, so it's no wonder that video game professionals don't have the necessary expertise to tune their systems properly.

  7. Re:Simple question by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why isn't there more mainstream backlash against Windows 10?

    It's gonna have to wait at least until Windows 10 kills somebody (say, by shutting down their hospital life support to install updates) for that to happen, and probably not even then.

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  8. Re:Computer literacy is at all times low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess knowing how to google is a very hard skill to learn.

    If you don't know about keyboard shortcuts, have never even heard the term keyboard shortcuts, why would you even think to google "copy keyboard shortcut"? Claiming that people who don't know how to copy text with just their keyboard don't know how to use google, is very arrogant of you. I'm sure there are plenty of topics of which you don't know that you don't know, and thus have no reason to suspect a need to google them.

  9. Re:Computer literacy is at all times low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We turned off everything

    Apparently these guys suck at turning off "everything". The only way I have found that works to keep Windows 10 away is to completely turn off Windows Update. Yes, Windows will nag at you. Yes, this will leave you (gasp!) unprotected, but malware is depending less and less on OS exploits these days, and more on browser exploits and user stupidity. OS patches won't protect you from your own stupidity.

    Why? Because if you "hide" KB3035583, after a few weeks or months, Microsoft will "update" the patch. A patch being updated to a new version removes its hidden status. It will then install, without asking you. It will then download six and a half gigabytes to your hard drive, also without asking you.

    If you're really scared about evil viruses, you can turn on Windows Update every now and then to manually check updates, look for and re-hide KB3035583, then disable Windows Update again immediately after the patches install and reboot. And hope that they haven't come up with a new patch to sneak Windows 10 in.

    Do not leave Microsoft in control of your updates, as they have clearly proven that they can not be trusted.

  10. Re:oh crap by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The same (or equivalent) people paying thousands of dollars to watch people run around with a real ball.

  11. Re:oh crap by SpankiMonki · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I feel the same way about golf.

  12. Re: Computer literacy is at all times low by Holi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So to do something like control MY pc I have to shell out an exorbitant amount of money... scratch that I cannot even buy Windows 10 Enterprise as it is only in volume licenses. So while that may work, it is not an option for the majority of people.

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  13. Work tool by damaki · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It looks like these streamers do not realize that their computer is a work tool. So, when you buy or choose a work tool, you have to ensure it fits your job. Nothing should be able to interrupt a stream. No Skype notification, no friggin Steam notification, no SMS alert on your phone, just game, game and game. Anything else should have been moved out of the way. Your tools and workplace should be specially tuned for that. But hey, people just expect an average gamer PC to magically turn into a professional tool without any action.

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  14. Re:oh crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Windows popups is by far the most annoying.
    Streamed gaming is much like gay sex. It is very easy to opt out of and it doesn't bother me a bit if others enjoy it without my participation.
    If you have a problem with people streaming themselves playing games or with e-sports having the word "sports" in it then the problem is entirely with you.
    You have to realize that not everyone enjoys the same things you enjoy and sometimes you won't even comprehend what they find enjoyable about their hobbies.

    Windows popups on the other hand is a thing that has a real economic impact. It distracts you from your work, regardless of if you are faking data in a spreadsheet or streaming games.
    The classic FUD mantra "Linux is only free if your time has no value" starts to be relevant again, except that this time it is "Windows 10 is only free if you work has no value"

  15. Re:oh crap by dwywit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Same for "how do I.....?" questions about almost anything. I now append -youtube for such queries.

    I respond much better to clearly written instructions - blurry screen caps with a 3-pixel mouse DO NOT contribute to my understanding.

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  16. Re: Incorrect hit piece by dwywit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've seen two failures to revert to 7. Six hours of troubleshooting and I finally gave up, and started a fresh install of 7.

    It seems that W10 did something to the boot sector of the drive. Recovery fixboot, fixmbr, etc, etc, enable all legacy/UEFI boot in the BIOS - none of it worked. I could see the partitions when the HDD was plugged into another machine, so I was able to rescue the customer's data, but it just wouldn't boot the OS - not even a splash screen. Had to boot to recovery from an installation disc.

    W10 will have to stabilise (and I mean that in the most generous sense) before I'm prepared to recommend it to customers. W7 end-of-life isn't until 2020, it'll do just fine until then.

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  17. Re:oh crap by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought that with Windows 10 you no longer had the option of disabling automatic updates.

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  18. Re: Incorrect hit piece by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This gamer should be setting the time to not when he's streaming.

    That's by far the wrong answer, enough to the point that the term 'gross incompetence' comes to mind. No well working software should ever automatically do anything that has a high risk of completely trashing your system without i.e. giving you the opportunity to back up your data. (And worse is that this thing sets you up for two high risk operations, in addition to deleting software you have without asking you.)

  19. Re:oh crap by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yup. People devote their limited time on this planet to watching TV shows where people just sit around in a house and have inane conversations. They pay to watch people chase a small ball from one of the field to the other. Some consider it a week well spent grinding every night for some imaginary item in a game. And some consider it entertaining and worthwhile to go protest for the social justice cause of the week.

    People like different things.

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