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Snapchat Sued For Facilitating 107 MPH Car Crash (patch.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A Georgia couple is suing Snapchat, a popular instant messaging and photo sharing app, after a car accident last year seriously injured the husband, leaving him permanently brain damaged. According to media reports, Wentworth Maynard, the victim, was driving in a 55-mile-per-hour zone when 18-year-old Christal McGee crashed into him traveling at 107 miles per hour. McGee, according to lawsuits, was attempting to use Snapchat's "speed filter" -- a feature that overlays the speed one is traveling on a picture. "Snapchat's speed filter facilitated McGee's excessive speeding," reads the lawsuit. "McGee was motivated to drive at an excessive speed in order to obtain recognition through Snapchat by the means of a Snapchat 'trophy.'"

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  1. Re:driving lockout when phone active by Sydin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why limit it to just millennials? A 50 year old person texting behind the wheel is just as dangerous as a 16 year old texting behind the wheel, and you're lying through your teeth if you tell me you haven't seen idiots of all ages glued to their phones instead of the road while driving. Focusing in on stereotyping one generational group instead of actually trying to address the problem generally fails to get anything of merit accomplished.

  2. grr by fishscene · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet another case of holding people who have absolutely NOTHING to do with this situation asking to be held responsible for the actions of another. Why don't we hold the person responsible for this... responsible? And before you say "Why does snapchat even have this filter?". Ever heard of passengers? It's the same reason why locking out the phone while driving doesn't work (n-1) people in a vehicle/boat. I for one don't want a stupid world where people not responsible for a situation are responsible.

    1. Re:grr by Paco103 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The filter encouraged the driver to travel at 107 mph in a 55 zone. It doesn't matter who was holding the phone.

      How do you figure? Let's accept the fact that there is a 100mph trophy, which appears to be in debate, but let's just accept it as true. Then snapchat encouraged users to go fast. Are there many legal and safe ways to go that fast? Yes. Plane, train, passenger on a racetrack (yes there are options for that), etc. It is not an achievement for going 107mph in a 55mph zone. It was not for going faster than the speed limit. It did not encourage illegal behavior. It encouraged, at best, behavior that is the users responsibility to determine a safe time and place to perform.

      My fitbit encourages me to run. It does NOT encourage me to run into traffic. It does not encourage me to plow others out of my way so I can run on a crowded path. My scuba computer tracks my max depth, so is it encouraging me to dive deep? Sure, especially when combined with online dive logs. Is it encouraging me to go deeper than I know by my training to be safe for my training and equipment?

      No. It is my responsibility as a human with a brain to determine when activities are acceptable. It wasn't a death toll counter or encouraging anything with no legal opportunity. It wasn't financially incentivizing illegal behavior (the equivalent argument to paying someone to punch someone else).

      The driver is responsible for their actions. They drove a car at nearly twice the legal speed limit. That was their decision, and that responsibility is on them.

    2. Re:grr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So basically your hypothesis is that this moron was driving recklessly because the police doesn't shoot enough unarmed black people?

    3. Re:grr by ogdenk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Before you say Medicare and Disability..... Medicare only covers about 80% and it usually takes at least a year to get disability and medicare and usually there's hearings and lawyers involved. He probably wouldn't get Medicaid either if his wife is working.

      Meanwhile, he could lose his health insurance, house and car because he can't work.... and his wife may crack under the stress of trying to take care of someone with brain damage and the financial strain of covering him under her health insurance which her employer won't kick out extra for.

      But we don't want socialized health care in this country cuz.... ya know.... freedom.... and it could never happen to *ME*.

  3. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. On a train.
    2. On a bus.
    3. On an aircraft.
    4. As a passenger in a car.

  4. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by kuzb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's time for people to start taking responsibility for their own actions. Reasoning like yours is fucking retarded beyond all reason or logic. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he was doing was dangerous.

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  5. Everyone's missing the obvious... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Neither the kid nor the kid's family have deep pockets. So the couple is suing Snapchat because it has deep pockets. Of course, the attorneys will milk every dime.

  6. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By assigning a "Trophy" for traveling a certain speed, they are creating an addicting experience

    I crave Slashdot mod points. I get an endorphin rush every time one of my insightful posts (like this one) goes to +5. Sometimes I post while driving. If I crash, should I be able to sue Slashdot? Should I be able to sue the people that mod me down, thus requiring me to make even more posts to get high?

  7. Re:driving lockout when phone active by whoozwah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the problem with this is that people commonly use their phones as a GPS.

  8. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    why not sue the vehicle manufacturer as he was taking part in one of that vehicles features as well, or the city/state who builds and maintains the highway. Or the petro chemical company that provided the fuel to do so.

  9. Re:Why are they not suing the driver? by Sydin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because they can get more money in damages from a tech company than they can from some idiot Georgia teen and her family. If the kid who crashed into them were a multi-millionaire, Snapchat's involvement would have never even been a talking point. They are making a fringe case of negligence that will be difficult to prove, simply because it's the option that offers the possibility of highest financial gain.

  10. Re:Fast enough to crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think the term you're looking for is frosty piss post, actually.

  11. Re:driving lockout when phone active by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've had two narrowly avoided head-ons with texters holding their phones across the top of their steering wheels, and neither of them were millenials.
    They were people roughly my age -- and my first video game system was Pong.

  12. Driving 100mph by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Putting "using Snapchat" (or any other distraction) aside, I've heard of people seeing how fast their cars would go before. Back in college, a close friend of mine went 100mph on a straight, deserted road just to see what it was like. Even then, I told him that was idiotic. I've done 80mph on highways before and I could feel my control of the car slipping. At 85mph, I'd be much more prone to an accident. I couldn't even conceive of doing 100mph. I'm sure there might be some who could do 100mph safely, but this is a minority. Unfortunately, there are a lot more people who think they can do 100mph safely but can't.

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    1. Re:Driving 100mph by jratcliffe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Depends on the highway. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people drive 100MPH or more every week on the Autobahn, and Germany's highway fatality rate is lower than that in the US.

      100MPH on in the rain on a crowded 2-lane road with a 50MPH speed limit? Really dangerous.

      100MPH on a clear day on a multi-lane highway where the average driver in the middle lane is going 80MPH or more? Not a problem.

  13. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's time for people to start taking responsibility for their own actions.

    Unless their actions involve encouraging dangerous behavior, in which case you seem to think they deserve a free pass.

  14. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by GLMDesigns · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This thinking is disgusting. No. You are responsible for your actions. Anything can be incentive.
    Example:
    I think your idea is stupid and that is incentive for me to slap you. Therefore you are responsible (or partly responsible) for the slap.

    Or (a less funny more real life expample)

    Someone finds a girl to be pretty. She's obviously "asking for it." Therefore she asked to be raped.
    No. "Incentive" is not an excuse. People are responsible for their actions,

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  15. Re:Hmm by barc0001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're going to open that can of worms, I suggest we then start suing car manufacturers for not having 80 MPH limiters in place on all new North American sold vehicles. Because it does make you wonder what Ford was thinking selling a Focus that can go 121 MPH. Did nobody anticipate that jerks would drive at crazy speeds because of that?

  16. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not that the victim's mother (the plaintiff) doesn't want to hold the other driver responsible; it's that Snapchat has a shitload more money to go after, so if she can get a jury to agree that they were complicit, she can recover damages (money) from them. Few rational people probably believe on the surface that Snapchat is responsible for the reckless behavior of its users, but lawyers in courtrooms can be very convincing. That's how they put food on their tables, and Mercedes in their garages.

  17. Re:Hmm by westlake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it does make you wonder what Ford was thinking selling a Focus that can go 121 MPH. Did nobody anticipate that jerks would drive at crazy speeds because of that?

    Ford isn't awarding trophies for taking the car to 121 mph in city traffic.

  18. Re:Hmm by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does Ford award an achievement for a common user who drives at high speed? No.

  19. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you pay someone $100 to punch someone else in the face, you've still committed a crime. Encouraging irresponsible behavior in others is irresponsible.

    There is a huge difference between paying someone to do something which is clearly illegal and having a daft game where people can compete completely legally. If you believe snapchat is guilty then does that also make say a day care centre which charges exorbitant late pick up fees liable too because it encourages parents to speed so they get there in time? or would whoever delayed them be liable?

    Going this route leads to madness. If a person chooses to avoid a legal way to complete some task and makes a conscious decision to choose an illegal route in order to get a better outcome then the responsibility for that decision must lie with them. Let's face it the only reason snapchat is getting sued here is because they have money. The person at fault here is the idiot driving at 107mph but they probably won't make much money of someone stupid enough to be doing that so they go after the person with the money no matter how unjustifiable it is.

  20. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by in10se · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It only takes 2 seconds to travel the length of a football field while going 100mph. The car may not even have been in view when they started pulling out and then suddenly it smashed into them.

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  21. Re:Frivolous lawsuit by kuzb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, because I made a minor typo, the entire message was lost on you? God damn you're a fucking idiot. Let me spell it out: Snapchat isn't forcing you or anyone else to make bad decisions. If you make a bad decision that's on you and nobody else.

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  22. Re: Frivolous lawsuit by jklovanc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad this Darwin award could have taken 5 other people with it.