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Microsoft Removes Wi-Fi Sense Feature From Windows 10 Which Shared Your Wi-Fi Password

Microsoft says it has removed the controversial Wi-Fi Sense feature that shared a user's password with their friends and people in the contact list. "We have removed the Wi-Fi Sense feature that allows you to share Wi-Fi networks with your contacts and to be automatically connected to networks shared by your contacts," says Microsoft's Gabe Aul. "The cost of updating the code to keep this feature working combined with low usage and low demand made this not worth further investment." Ben Woods, writing for The Next Web: The feature allows you to share Wi-Fi login information with friends automatically via your contacts, however it got a controversial reception due to privacy implications. Do you really want to share your Wi-Fi codes with everyone in your contacts? No, of course not. It seems that was the general response from users too, so that option will be removed in the upcoming Windows 10 Insider Preview update, Microsoft says. Public Wi-Fi login info will remain in the app though.

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  1. Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by kheldan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about removing all the so-called 'telemetry' and other privacy-invading malware bullshit and return control of peoples' computers to the people who own and operate them? Or will not being assholes cut into your profit margin too much?

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    1. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

      This message brought to you by Microsoft...

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    2. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > How about you just don't fucking buy it and stop whining.

      Well, Windows 10 has been pretty clever about sneaking into machines and installing itself, in the process downgrading your "pro" 7 install to a "home" one. So some victims of Windows 10 didn't consent, they were tricked.

      If you used Windows 7 (a pretty good OS!), you might expect that, at some point, Microsoft would make another good OS. It's reasonable to be disappointed or even angry that they have not.

      And you said it yourself- Microsoft is obsessed with capturing what you do and sending it to their servers. This means that someone must obviously care what people are doing on computers, because there is such a huge pressure to make that happen.

      I can't disagree with your overall point though: the solution is to stop using Windows. If Windows users continue to put up with anything, then "anything" is exactly what they will get.

    3. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "but the fact of that matter is that this level of data reporting has been included in the three prior versions of Windows"

      You had the option to turn it off, dipshit. That's the whole fucking point.

    4. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... the fact of that matter is that this level of data reporting has been included in the three prior versions of Windows.

      [citation_needed]

      The telemetry nonsense was included in Windows 10 and then backported to Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 not all that long ago. That was also a scuzzy move, and implying that the tracking's been there all along and nobody cared is flat out wrong.

    5. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by cfalcon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Did you complain about the so-called telemetry in Vista, 7, or 8?

      Windows 7 and 8 didn't have it 10-style until 10 launched. It is possible to run 7 without telemetry, and out of the box, 7 doesn't have it. So if people aren't complaining about it, it is ultimately because it doesn't exist. Certainly not the way it does in 10.

      > Do you complain about it Android?

      I'm pretty sure you can turn it off in Android. I know you can in ios. More importantly, phones are generally poor at privacy, because they must, by nature, broadcast your location constantly. To make this worse, there's no truly open phone.

      But just because phones suck doesn't mean desktops should. This does not excuse Microsoft's behavior in Windows 10. Windows 10 runs on a real machine, it is far more capable than a phone, and you could easily have most or all of your electronic life in there, and many do. It is disgusting to switch that to some kind of system that rings the mothership everytime you launch notepad, such that some profile about you exists for how you edit your damned files.

    6. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Informative? Really mods? you DO know they didn't start shoving that telemetry shit until AFTER Windows 10 flatlined, yes? And that its dead simple to remove the telemetry from Win 7/8/8.1 and can be done with a simple batch file, yes? And that with Windows 10 its impossible to get it to stop leaking data, that even the pirates have failed to be able to strip enough from that Bonzi Buddy of an OS to get it to STFU, you DO know this...yes?

      As for the other poster who called this koolaid drinker I'm responding to a shill? Look at the posting history before throwing around shill, as this one is obviously just a raging fanboy, no different than that Appletard I ran into here that still swears that "Apples don't get viruses" because his definition of a virus is so fucking narrow that no malware written past 1992 would pass, or the FOSSie that swears Linux is growing on the desktop and then when you provide the latest desktop stats starts talking about routers....he has guzzled the koolaid, can't admit he's been buttfucked by spyware, so will furiously wave his little winflag until his wrists break.

      The difference between a shill and a fanboy is a BIG fucking difference and why shill shouldn't be thrown around lightly, shills are professionals sent to signaljam communication channels with propaganda, fanboys are just flag wavers for certain products. if you have trouble spotting the difference? Go look up the articles from this site that were tearing into the Metro UI when Win 8 was first shat out and you'll find plenty of actual shill posts. For those that are too lazy shills 1.- Either have new accounts or old accounts that are ONLY used when a company they are shilling for has an article and the rest of the time are dormant, 2.- They stay on message in every post, no talk of anything other than the positives of brand X or the negatives of brand Y, 3.- They almost always tend to slip into "buzzword bingo" because middle management likes them to push the latest company horseshit so you see words and phrases nobody uses outside the boardroom like "vertical integration", "product synergy", and "positive user experience" so it ends up reading like a PPT.

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    7. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by pezpunk · · Score: 4, Informative

      The messages use a variety of misleading text. For example, my wife was tricked into upgrading to Windows10 because after clicking "no thanks" a certain number of times, it eventually asked her "do you want to upgrade to Windows 10 now, or later?" and she clicked "later", meaning "never", but it installed it later that day, assuming it had permission.

      if you want to argue that TECHNICALLY she agreed to install it, fine, but in my opinion when a major avenue of adoption is tricking its users into installing it, that is pretty much the definition of evil.

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    8. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by jaklode · · Score: 2

      I'm still running XP at home, because I didn't give enough of a damn to go to all the hassle of upgrading.. and truth be told I didn't know about any 'telemetry' in Win7 anyway, but had I known I would've been pissed about that, too.

      Maybe Ubuntu LTS or Debian? Beware that Ubuntu only offers security updates for their small main repository. Or something like CentOS; that will reduce your need to upgrade a lot.

      Current plans are some flavor of Linux. When I get around to it. There's only one piece of software I have that has only a Windows-only version, and I can get around that easily enough.

      Wine is also really great these days, it even runs a .NET app I threw at it, using it's Mono support.

    9. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by pezpunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      haha, why are you bothering to defend this horrible practice?

      she did not want the upgrade. somehow it wound up on there. there are THOUSANDS of people with the same story. you want to write a book on why she TECHNICALLY must have agreed to install it at some point, fine, but the bottom line is she was tricked into installing it, and her story is an extremely common one. It's a shitty tactic and it's creating millions of brand new microsoft haters who previously didn't really have an opinion on the company.

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    10. Re:Can we get them to remove other annoyances? by mattventura · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nope. Your wife or someone else WAY back comitted to doing the upgrade. They clicked, "yes I want to install the upgrade when its available; reserve it now and let me know when its ready" or something along those lines.

      It's still a bait-and-switch. I had initially opted into that, before it was known that they were going to have all the telemetry and other assorted bullshit in the final version. So naturally, I wanted to later opt out of it.

  2. They left out a clause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now that Microsoft knows 90% of its users' wireless passwords, We have removed the Wi-Fi Sense feature

  3. Translation by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay, fine. We'll remove this feature. But not because everyone flipped their shit and hated it. The only reason we're removing it is because it was cost effective to do so. If we could have found a way to profit off of it, you can bet your pimply ass that it would still be in there and on by default.

  4. Re:I actually liked this feature by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    A lot of folks I know have their password in a QR code.

    Oh! That's an awesome idea. I need to put one of those up by my front door.

    Just leave your house key at the door so they can just go read the password off the post-it -- we all -- have taped to the bottom of the router.

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  5. Re:How about adding back ip over firewire? by wicka_wicka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why I love Slashdot. People (like you) are obsessed with comically niche features like IP over Firewire, which is utterly irrelevant, and yet you're too blind to reality to realize it. The last time I saw a thread complaining about Windows there was a similar post saying Windows absolutely MUST include built-in ssh. It's like you people are being willfully ignorant of how the end-user market actually works.

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  6. Re:I actually liked this feature by kav2k · · Score: 2

    Well, if you don't secure the WiFi, you're broadcasting all your packets in plain text.

    Don't look at WPA2 as access control only, it's also providing channel encryption.

    Guest networks (isolated from the main one) are a nice idea but they should be secured anyway for the sake of the guests.

  7. Windows 10 can just hack out features? by LichtSpektren · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sorry, but what if (that's a big "IF" there but bear with me) I bought Windows 10 because I *wanted* this particular feature? Microsoft is just going to "update" it out anyway?

    I understand Windows 10 is more of a rolling release than previous versions were, but this is insane. Are they going to "update" out things that I bought from the Windows Store because they weren't terribly popular as well? Imagine if you took your car in for maintenance and they took out your parking camera because nobody used it....

  8. Wow, they listen to their users? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who would have thought that there is low demand for a "feature" that broadcasts your passwords to others?

    Hey, MS, allow me to let you in on a secret: There's also really low demand for the thousand "apps" that nobody needs, can't be uninstalled and take up unnecessary space on the drive and the start menu (where you ALSO cannot get rid of them), and there is really low demand for updates we can't turn off.

    Maybe you could discover this great revelation next?

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  9. Re:How about adding back ip over firewire? by armanox · · Score: 2

    It was rather useful for device-to-device networking - direct connection at 400 or 800Mbps. I think the bigger complaint was that it was simply dropped when other consumer operating systems still support it. However, if he's still complaining about something that was dropped ten years ago, it's time to move on to a different OS if he's that bound to it.

    SSH, on the other hand - that's my single biggest feature request for Windows....

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  10. The real problem explained by Mr_Silver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem wasn't so much that you could share access to your network with your friends - it was that if you gave your WiFi password to someone (which what the majority of people do when they visit someone elses house) then you had to make sure that they didn't share access to your network with their friends.

    The problem is that Microsoft cannot differentiate between someone who has the WiFi password because they own the connection and someone who has the WiFi password because they were told it. Microsoft made the assumption that if you have the password, then you have the right to offer that connection to others - but this is not what happens in the "real world".

    Because of this incorrect assumption, the onus was suddenly placed on the owner of the WiFi (who does decide to provide their password) to police the entry of it into Windows 10 devices to ensure that a bunch of random people that they have never met aren't suddenly allowed to use their network.

    That was why it was an issue.

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