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Where Does America's E-Waste End Up? GPS Tracker Tells All (pbs.org)

The United States produces more e-waste than any country in the world, reports PBS News Hour. But where does this e-waste go? The publication utilized the GPS coordinates in some of the e-waste to find out. Basel Action Network, a Seattle-based e-waste watchdog group partnered with MIT to put 200 geolocating tracking devices inside old computers, TVs and printers. They dropped them off nationwide at donation centers, recyclers and electronic take-back programs -- enterprises that advertise themselves as "green," "sustainable," "earth friendly" and "environmentally responsible." From the report: About a third of the tracked electronics went overseas -- some as far as 12,000 miles. That includes six of the 14 tracker-equipped electronics that e-waste watchdog group dropped off to be recycled in Washington and Oregon. The tracked electronics ended up in Mexico, Taiwan, China, Pakistan, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Canada and Kenya. Most often, they traveled across the Pacific to rural Hong Kong. You can read the report in its entirety here.

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  1. Welp by ADRA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Most often, they traveled across the Pacific to rural Hong Kong"

    RURAL Hong Kong, haha -- Even the New Territories can't be considered 'rural' by the most urbanite standards.

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    1. Re:Welp by jo7hs2 · · Score: 2

      Eh, I mean if by rural they mean minimally populated, some of the areas long the border with mainland China are probably "rural" by some definitions.

    2. Re:Welp by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      There are plenty of hilly areas unsuitable for development and empty of anything but wildlife. Have you ever been there? It IS rural by urbanite standards.

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    3. Re:Welp by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Not surprised so many people beat me on that one, but I was surprised to see it in the first post. App guy must have stayed home today.

      I was surprised 2 thirds of it stayed in the US. Great to see so much of the recycling done here!

      I am a bit confused why the authors think that electronics recycled overseas wasn't recycled.

      But a two-year investigation by the Basel Action Network, a Seattle-based e-waste watchdog group, concluded that sometimes businesses are exporting electronics rather than recycling them.

      Makes me think they exported the writing of the article. ;)

      It's also got scare quotes, where there is no reason at all for quotation marks.

      And the actual result of the investigation seems to be, "yes, the electronic waste was delivered to overseas recyclers." They seem to be under the impression that it is somehow improper to refurbish a "recycled" printer to resell it. Can somebody tell these clowns that melting everything down to base materials is not better than taking the device apart and re-using the parts that have value as they are?

      Also, including the ground water stuff was pretty lame. That wasn't connected to this story, and they give the impression it is.

      They're also manufacturing some hay with the "Unlicensed And Unregulated" bullshit. They may indeed be unlicensed; China has every right to decide which industries do or do not need a "license." But unregulated? Everything in China is covered by vast regulations. If they violate the wrong regulations, they could be put to death!

      And who told these clowns that 100% of the materials in a printer are recyclable, that none of it will be waste? Is that actually a claim by anybody? No, the claim is that the electronic devices will be recycled; it is implied that only the majority of the actual parts will be able to be put to another use.

      And it would be great if they had indoor storage for everything. But being stored in a field doesn't actually tell you anything at all other than that the storage doesn't have a roof. It doesn't mean that it isn't still in a recycling pipeline. Glass that is recycled is often stored outdoors multiple times before being melted down. Same for metals and plastics. For electronics it is obviously non-optimal... but the same is true with metal.

      Also, this part is misleading:

      Oregon regulators have also asked the state Department of Justice to open an investigation into whether Total Reclaim violated consumer protection laws.

      As an Oregonian I can report that the State is really awesome about investigating complaints. If I tell the State that some business scammed me out of $1, and I make the complaint to the right place, they will investigate. In that case, it would be a very short investigation, but the company would get either a phone call or a letter and they would have to give their side of the story. Of course Oregon regulators ask the DoJ to investigate; the people behind the story were asking them to do that! Here in Oregon, the State doesn't decide if there is a problem before they investigate! I know that is done in some places. But here, we decide if the rules were broken after investigating! They make it sound like the State believes there is some problem, but that is just not true and they know it. But it didn't stop them from writing it that way.

      I care about waste and pollution, but I feel like those fights would be better off without these clowns. Things have improved a lot the past 15 years, and these guys are back to attack the companies that have improved things! I just don't see how that helps. If they did the exact same investigation, but instead of using it to throw mud at recycling companies, they used to try to improve practices, they'd have a positive impact. The way they're doing it is just going to make people think maybe it isn't important to get their electronics to these companies. Nobody el

  2. Amazingly by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Amazingly all the rest were tracked to my basement.

  3. Re:only fair by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    Let me tell you how rice paddies work sometime.

  4. Newsflash: "Green" companies BS their customers by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >> a Seattle-based e-waste watchdog group ...dropped them off nationwide at donation centers, recyclers and electronic take-back programs -- enterprises that advertise themselves as "green," "sustainable," "earth friendly" and "environmentally responsible." ...About a third of the tracked electronics went overseas

    A lot of businesses quickly figured out that people who go "awww" when they see whales or polar bears are often more easily parted from their money than the general public, and since calling themselves "green" takes no actual extra work - you might even get the ganza-smelling dude hauling monitors to work cheaper if he thinks he's working for "a cause" - what did you really expect?

  5. No, they wouldn't be used by dlenmn · · Score: 3, Informative

    The vast majority of the stuff that's getting sent to foreign countries isn't getting reused -- and for good reasons.

    First, if something is reasonably valuable, it's probably being reused in the states (e.g. the Dell/Goodwill program mentioned in TFA).

    Moreover, old computers and CRTs aren't that useful in the third world. A cheap, new smart phone is much more useful since it has wireless connectivity and a battery (the phone is probably more powerful than a CRT-era desktop to boot). In many developing countries, you're a lot more likely to have a wireless signal than a wired internet connection. Your desktop also won't do much good if the power grid is in poor condition -- or non-existent (you can charge your smart phone from a solar panel). There's a reason that cheap smartphones are popular in developing countries.

  6. Re:astroturfed garbage artical by Tailhook · · Score: 5, Interesting

    WTF happened to the other 66% of electronics?!?!

    It was recycled in the US. Your criticism of the story isn't misplaced; the writers are careful not to point out that 2/3's of the e-waste they traced was recycled or disposed of by domestic recyclers. The story claims 200 items were tracked. 65 ended up in various third world hellholes. All of it "went through U.S. recyclers," so it's reasonable to conclude the other 135 items did not get exported. Omitting this is deliberate; most readers are left believing all of our e-waste is exported and polluting the world without the least care. Creating outrage at ebil planet wrecking 'murcia is job one at PBS et. al.

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  7. Re:only fair by zlives · · Score: 2

    that "food" was manufactured in NJ and yes your shit IS ending up in there ;)

  8. Next time please track the NYC "private carters" by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2
    New York City requires that e-waste be properly recycled, both via public "Department of Sanitation" workers and by "private carters". The law is that DoS picks up "residential waste" and private carters pick up the commercial waste. DoS does a pretty good job and many of their workers on the trucks are scrupulous about how they leave a pickup site. The employees of the private carters on the other hand are generally paid poorly, exposed to dangerous working conditions, and given impossible schedules to maintain. The result is that everything that they pick up goes into the single mouth of their truck; food waste, paper waste, plastic waste, and e-waste. And often they leave a trail of drippings as they pull away. Enforcement does not exist for the private carters who speed through red lights and drive the wrong way down the streets at night.

    So all that effort that businesses put into properly separating recyclables from other solid waste ... well, it all goes into the same dump at the same time.

    Some background:

    The DSNY collects 10,500 tons of garbage and 1760 tons of recyclables from residential, government, and nonprofit agency buildings every day, whereas private carters collect 13,000 tons of garbage from businesses.

    http://abc7ny.com/home/who-really-takes-out-the-garbage-where-does-it-go/1275453/

    And an interesting article on the commercial carting industry in NYC:

    http://citylimits.org/2015/05/19/city-weighs-reining-in-private-garbage-collectors/

  9. Re:And that is the Problem by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So... Get ready to keep all your old electronics as it suddenly becomes VERY expensive to have it removed.

    What expense?

    I throw it out in my trashcan like everything else I have that is waste, and the city picks it up for me for free....easy peasy!!!

    Actually, in the NOLA area, if you set it outside the can so it is visible, chances are someone will grab it overnight before the garbage men even come....I get rid of all monitors (even old CRTs), and computers past their prime, etc...and someone grabs them before the trash men come.....I guess that's one form of un-intentional recycling....?

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  10. Let's be real by wcrowe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's be real. This stuff is not being "recycled". Oh, there might be some places pulling some precious metals out of the mix, but most of it is just plastic and metals that no one has any interest in recycling. There would be a lot less waste if devices were more modular, and standards were not constantly changing, but I don't know how you get companies to build stuff like that.

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    1. Re:Let's be real by sribe · · Score: 2

      Let's be real. This stuff is not being "recycled". Oh, there might be some places pulling some precious metals out of the mix...

      Actually, a prior study found that just over 90% of e-waste shipped to Africa wound up being sold because our discarded items are still better than the low-quality crap that manufacturers sell in the third world.

  11. Say what? by magarity · · Score: 4, Informative

    One worker says he isn’t aware of the risks. “He had no idea,” Su says, after speaking with him in Mandarin.

    Well yeah, he had no idea what she asked him. Low skilled workers in Hong Kong are likely to speak Cantonese.

  12. Details about Tracker? by tanveer1979 · · Score: 2

    The article is slim about details of the tracker, the battery life, the battery capacity required to manage such life etc., Any ideas?

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  13. Surprised by ledow · · Score: 2

    Not a surprise.

    The same was found for UK WEEE waste. Someone in China or India will happily sign anything you like if they can become your "recycling partner", and then just throw the stuff into their local (unregulated) landfill.

    I do a lot of WEEE disposal (if you throw out over a ton of waste electrical equipment a year, you're required to track it with paperwork, below that, not!). The guys who email me about offering that service all claim to be WEEE registered. One of them, many years ago when the scheme was only a year or two old, took my old CRT's and told me exactly what happens to them: They drive them to Heathrow in a big lorry, where someone pays 1GBP each for them, which pays the petrol for the journey. Those people load them on a plane, signs the official "we will dispose of them properly" paperwork (so the first company are covered and so am I), and then nobody's quite sure what happens there on...

    But I can't see that a lorry full of old CRT's are worth even 1GBP each in metals and materials, certainly not 1GBP + staff wages + disposal of the dangerous stuff + international transport via cargo plane + sitting and recycling the potentially useful stuff.

    Unofficially, the guy was told it just goes into landfill abroad - but because the paperwork DOESN'T say that, everyone is covered. And if the company in India that signed that declaration is found to be dumping the waste? Well, there are lots of others and you can "start" another company quite quickly.

    And previous tracking projects like this (I've seen at least three or four from local news to nationwide research) confirm to me that, pretty much, that's what happens whether it's supposed to or not. I imagine the easy-pickings (the still-working old Dell computers, etc.) are sold on locally, the large blocks of metal (e.g. rack units and anything that can be removed as a lump of metal etc.) are melted down by the local scrapyard, and anything hazardous is shipped out because it's such a cost to deal with and someone in a third-world country will happily take it off a plane, take the time to weed out the gold etc. without care for their staff, dump the rest for you, and then sign anything you want so long as it's accompanied by a few quid.

    And because it's gone out of the EU and has "legal" documents, the originating countries don't really care.

    1. Re:Surprised by Khashishi · · Score: 2

      The Indian companies must get something out of it, otherwise they wouldn't do it.