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2015 Nebula Award Winners Announced (sfwa.org)
Dave Knott writes: The winners of the 2015 Nebula Awards (presented 2016) have been announced. The Nebulas are voted on by members of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America and (along with the Hugos) are considered to be one of the two most prestigious awards in science fiction. This year's winners are:
Best Novel: Uprooted , Naomi Novik
Best Novella: Binti , Nnedi Okorafor
Best Novelette: "Our Lady of the Open Road," Sarah Pinsker
Best Short Story: "Hungry Daughters of Starving Mothers," Alyssa Wong
Ray Bradbury Award for Outstanding Dramatic Presentation: Mad Max: Fury Road , Written by George Miller, Brendan McCarthy, Nick Lathouris
Andre Norton Award for Young Adult Science Fiction and Fantasy: Updraft , Fran Wilde
Kate Wilhelm Solstice Award: Sir Terry Pratchett
Kevin O'Donnell Jr. Service Award: Lawrence M. Schoen
2016 Damon Knight Grand Master Award: C.J. Cherryh
Best Novel: Uprooted , Naomi Novik
Best Novella: Binti , Nnedi Okorafor
Best Novelette: "Our Lady of the Open Road," Sarah Pinsker
Best Short Story: "Hungry Daughters of Starving Mothers," Alyssa Wong
Ray Bradbury Award for Outstanding Dramatic Presentation: Mad Max: Fury Road , Written by George Miller, Brendan McCarthy, Nick Lathouris
Andre Norton Award for Young Adult Science Fiction and Fantasy: Updraft , Fran Wilde
Kate Wilhelm Solstice Award: Sir Terry Pratchett
Kevin O'Donnell Jr. Service Award: Lawrence M. Schoen
2016 Damon Knight Grand Master Award: C.J. Cherryh
She's been due for the Grand Master award for decades.
I'm surprised about Fury Road; I would have gone for The Martian.
Dystopias are still in fashion, I guess.
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So it looks like the Sad Puppies aren't able to influence the Nebula awards.
Well, considering that the Nebula is nominated and voted on by the members of the Science Fiction Writers of America, that stands to reason.
The Sad Puppies were primarily a fan movement. And the Rabids, a cult of personality. While I have liked some of Beale's (aka Vox Day) books, his insistence on complete, unswerving loyalty and obedience to him to become one of his "Vile Faceless Minions (VFM)" is more than a little creept. . .
If you look at how the Nebulas are nominated and voted for, you'd already know why that is: in fact, that's one of the Sad Puppy arguments, of a self-reinforcing in-group. . .
Nominations look fairly balanced and reasonable so it's probably just a consequence of the membership voting as they tend to do. Literature isn't really easy to quantify so you always end up with certain social biases in time.
A bit heavy on the fantasy for my taste.
The straight white males are fine - the virgin white males who think they deserve a free supermodel slave still appear to be frustrated it appears.
WTF is it with this victimhood shit? Sorry kid but things are not playing out the way you are screeching about.
Try 3-body Problem. It may be a slow start, though and I don't think it was a nominee. For that matter, I'm not sure it's a current-year book, but it was a good read.
I think The Water Knife was on the list, though.
In a sense, Dan Brown's Inferno is sci-fi, although like all his books, it's as much about arcana and action as about what-if. And mass-market writing, of course. Just heard it's coming out as a movie.
Usually about a $1.
I see. You're one of those raving nutcases who is simply prepared to invent your own facts when the real ones don't support you point.
You see that nebula award winning film this year? Directed and created by a straight white dude.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
God forbid they ever give another award to a straight white male.
Like Sir Terry Pratchett, who is right in the list in the summary.
But please, don't let facts interfere with your butthurt. MRA teardrops taste so sweet in the morning.
Nope. But are you aware that last year, four out of the six nominees were guys? And one of them one. Here's a thought (I know, that might be strange to you), maybe.... maybe the reason they won this year was because they were voted as the best?
That it's not some overarching conspiracy to make you feel frustrated and upset from the depths of your mom's basement?
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
IMHO the Mad Max movie, as good as it was (and I liked it), shouldn't even qualify. It's not Sci Fi.
Don't opine from ignorance.
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You are welcome on my lawn.
Oh honey, I'm not a puppy of either stripe, I just enjoy watching them upset a bunch of tight-arses. As for Ms. Quinn, I expect to have a sensible chuckle in the unlikely event that Mr. Tingle actually wins and has her accept his award.
BTW, has it ever occurred to you that what really fuels the anti-SJW movement is you guys insisting on labeling anyone who disagrees with you as creeps, harassers, neckbeards, racists, man-children, bigots, misogynerds, etc. when 99% of the time the targets of your rage are in fact not those things? The gamergaters didn't get set off by a woman daring to whatever she did, but by the flood of stereotyping attack articles pushed by gamejournopros.
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Scroll down to 2015 (which is last year), chucklenut.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
FACT: Every Nebula Award winner this year was a female, except two separate specialty awards
Oh moving the goalposts I see. Typical nutjob reasoning. First make up facts, then when people point out that the so-called "facts" are in fact not facts you move the goalposts.
So first it's that no awards went to straight white men. Now apparently it's no awards that count in some abstract sense went to straight white men. Please do make up your mind.
which went to a movie that was popular with feminists
Mad Max was popular full stop. It did well with critics, audience reviews and overall gross. I think it was in the top 20 grossing films worldwide, and top 5(?) for R-rated films.
Did I make that one up?
You made up the bit about "separate speciality awards" since the Nebulas make no such distinction. Basically what that amounts to is you cherry picking results.
So, you know what I think of your reasoning?
MEDIOCRE!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
I learned decades ago to avoid science fiction written by females after reading some Andre Norton crap.
I learned decades ago to avoid science fiction written by males after reading some L Ron Hubbard crap. Oh no, I didn't because that would be fucking stupid wouldn't it?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Don't opine from ignorance.
You *must* be new here.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
They couldn't rename the Solstice Award the "Kate Wilhelm Solstice Award" AND give it to a female in the same year, could they?
Yes they could.
Basically conversations with you go like this:
You: evil feminists are oppressing me by having different opinions. look, see: only women win. ...
Everyone else: you mean except for all the men that also won this year.
You: They don't count! Those must be TOKEN men because evil feminists are oppressing me.
Everyone else: oooookaaayyy [backs away slowly]
You: They gave an award named after a woman to a man! That only PROVES that feminists are oppressing me!
Everyone else:
SJW n. One who posts facts.
not after what the puppies showed to be true regarding the Hugos
The only thing the puppies showed was that the supposed "silent majority" which they (a) beleived existed and (b) believed agreed with them did not in fact exist.
While deeply crap stuff was nominated, it was by a conspiracy of unconnected people who could be arsed to vote, or in other words, not a conspiracy.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
I don't know how "hard" your "hard sci-fi" definition runs, if 3-Body isn't hard sci-fi, then I'd probably have to strike off Robert L. Forward's "Dragon's Egg" and Clarke's "2001 A Space Odessy" for starters.
Brown is primarily action/adventure, but the prime motivator is more based on real-world science than the Andromeda Strain.
Water Knife has certain parallels with A Canticle for Leibowitz, although more immediate.
Mad Max got some praise for not having the typical "helpless damsel in distress" stuff and instead having female characters who could actually do something for themselves. Same with Star Wars, because Leia was damseled in all three films (at least she fought back a bit).
Both were great films, not trying to make any particular point about women, just treating them like actual adult human beings rather than a mere plot device to give the male characters something to do. I don't see that harming men in any way, if anything it's good for us because we are starting to see the same thing with other character types who were previously just there for the plot, like geeks and engineers.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Thats bullshit.
No it's not, and given we're trying to have a discussion on literature, I find your response entertaining.
Not every plot has been written already.
Define: plot.
Really, I mean it. Once you get to a short enough description of the plot, then yes there's a whole hell of a lot of duplication. In fact almost every book would fall into one of a very small number of different plots.
The devil of course is in the details.
The fact is that all of the sudden we get these plots, and vampire and zombie plots all the sudden.
And what is the frankenstein plot if not one of the already trodden path of "man creates a monster" plot? Of course it was a hugely fresh and creative and in fact groundbreaking variant on that plot.
Which kind of reinforces my point. If you summarize plots in a very few words as you did, then almost nothing is strictly speaking new. That doesn't however prevent them from being groundbreaking and better than what went before.
But whatever it's "bullshit", right?
SJW n. One who posts facts.
"You have to either find referrers/reviewers that you can trust (this takes a lot of work, but it is your responsibility, as hard as it may be) and/or you have try lots of things out, and find wheat in the chaff."
This actually isn't that hard at all. Goodreads makes it really easy to find new stuff to read based on the opinions of people who share similar tastes in books.
It's what sells to the teen crowd.
There are some fantastic writers writing for the teen, and even younger crowd, so there's no need to be snooty about them. In fact being unable to hide behind literary pretensions makes them actually make sure that the book is entertaining to read...
SJW n. One who posts facts.
There are plenty of SF authors who are NOT members of SFWA: either they let their memberships lapse, for percieved lack of value, or never joined.
I repeat my first statement: SFWA is a self-reinforcing in-group. It only very recently allowed Indie-published authors to join. . .
The word "Gamergate" in relation to this movement was first used by Adam Baldwin, in a tweet linking to a video supposedly claiming Zoe Quinn was cheating on her "boyfriend". The "Ethics in journalism" "justifications" started later.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
But it also means that it's more difficult to stuff the ballot box, as it were. I mean, anyone can pony up the amount of cash it takes (what, something like $60, right) to be able to vote on the Hugos. If you don't meet the qualifications for SFWA membership, you CANNOT vote on the Nebulas.
So, yeah, it's a much more insular bunch, taken from a certain point of view. But it also means you don't have a rabble rousing idiot like Beale getting huge whacks of votes for a predetermined slate.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
... I feel dumber, just for having read that statement. I can award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.