Symantec Antivirus Products Vulnerable To Horrid Overflow Bug (zdnet.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Tavis Ormandy of Google's Project Zero team has discovered a vulnerability in Symantec Antivirus Engine. The said engine is vulnerable to a buffer overflow when parsing malformed portable-executable (PE) header files, reports ZDNet. "Such malformed PE files can be received through incoming email, downloading of a document or application, or by visiting a malicious web site," Symantec said. "No user interaction is required to trigger the parsing of the malformed file." For Linux, OS X, and other Unix-like systems, the exploit results in a remote heap overflow as root in the Symantec or Norton process, Ormandy said in the Project Zero issue tracker. "On Windows, this results in kernel memory corruption, as the scan engine is loaded into the kernel (wtf!!!), making this a remote ring0 memory corruption vulnerability -- this is about as bad as it can possibly get," he said.The vulnerability, if exploited, results in kernel memory corruption without user action and instant blue-screening on Windows.
Does anyone still use Symantec? Yeah, I didn't think so. This matters to all of three neckbeards. I'll get modded down to -1 for asking this because Slashdot users can't handle the truth. All three of the neckbeards still using Symantec probably have mod points.
This really isn't surprising and shows a fundamental weakness in not just the software, but this approach to "security" in general. You're trying to make up for holes in other programs by adding more code to the festering heap, now in the kernel, thereby pulling out all the stops and safeguards, yet you kept on using the same languages, techniques, "coders", approaches, patterns, and so on, that made the code you're trying to make up for so vulnerable. In short, you've putten your foot in trying to kid yourself. But hey, it's a living, right?
This is the "computer security" industry in a nutshell, this time without its trademark verbal abuse, just naked and getting laughed at.
Irony Overflow Exception.at lines one to infinity.
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If Symantec started apping apps instead of LUDDITE software, then none of this would be possible because only apps can app apps!
Apps!
Tavis Ormandy is bad ass, and is really awesome at finding bugs. Whether it is Microsoft, Symantec, or anything else, he will find a bug if one is there.
This is a beautiful bug! Having the scan engine loaded into the kernel is sheer lunacy. Yet even more evidence on why AntiVirus is a useless and dangerous program to have running on your system.
Linux users would have been better off without Symantec antivirus or any av for that matter.
Symantec actively makes Linux and UNIX less secure? Because other than the insanity Lennart Poettering gave us, I fail to see what a proper UNIX system would need with a symantec scanner. It's been far too long now for the myth of UNIX being insecure in the same ways (note the wording...) to still persist.
Points to Symantec for eating their own dog food, I guess.
Log in or piss off.
would try so hard for first post
This isn't "as bad as it gets" yet. However, "Kernel memory corruption leading to blue screens" is "random stuff got sprayed across the kernel memory". If you can do that, and if you can get a handle on what got sprayed where... then, you have a decent chance of being able to improve that to "Kernel memory corruption leading to remote code execution. In Ring 0."
And that's as bad as it gets.
Clearly this LUDDITE is too dumb to be capable of using modern appy apps, and has to resort to using LUDDITE software like Symantec instead!
Apps!
very informative
I would rather take a Babel Fish, please.
the only two that really deliver are F-Secure and Kaspersky. That's just how it is. The others either are either sup-bar, contain spyware, or even have security flaws. If you spend money on the bigger AV programs, and you are buying from any other vendor than F-Secure and Kaspersky, then you're just gambling.
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Find a similar bug in a SMM (ring -1) handler in your UEFI BIOS... or perhaps in the various subsystems both intel and amd keep on strewing over their offerings that include complete RTOSes running in ring -2 or -3, or in the LOM, maybe on a processor embedded in the southbridge, which might run diddled Chinese firmware complete with diddle-hider, or.... And yes, that southbridge thing sits on a management NIC and gets its input from there before the rest of the system even sees it, so any exploit more or less has to be remote.
Nope, there's really no end to the depth of the rot. Please note that for most of these at least promising proof-of-concepts already exist, and where not publicly known often strong hints are available that someone must have developed such a thing anyway. And yes, there really are that many OSes running on various parts on a modern computer. Hey, who knows, maybe the microcode can somehow be triggered too.
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Yes, it is a waste of time, but McAfee and Symantec both have ICSA certified AV solutions which run on Linux, Solaris, HP-UX, and AIX. This is crucial in a lot of environments to make the legal eagles happy, and check that box off that "all computers run a certified AV solution", even if the machines are LPARs or LDOMs.
Sounds idiotic, but PCI-DSS and other specs can require this, even though the AV software, at best, will be deadweight.
All updates to the scan engine come via LiveUpdate, so run LiveUpdate (which probably is running daily or even multiple times a day and you are solved. There is no need to push out a new version of SEP to fix this. Symantec has addressed this already https://www-secure.symantec.co...
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Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus (slows you) + less security issues/complexity. Compliments firewalls (w/ layered drivers blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lightens dns load). Gets data via 10 security sites.
Ads rob bandwidth/speed paid for, security (adnetwork abuse), privacy in tracking + anonymity.
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogtrackers) natively. Hosts != blockable by ClarityRay (vs. souled-out to admen inferior wasteful redundant slow usermode browser addons)
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Unless you don't update AV definitions, this is a nonissue. The AV definition files dated 5/16/16 rev24 included an updated av engine component that fixes this vulnerability. By the time I heard of this issue, our SEPM server had already downloaded the defs with fixed engine and 3/4 of our enterprise was already up to date.
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Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus (slows you) + less security issues/complexity. Compliments firewalls (w/ layered drivers blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lightens dns load). Gets data via 10 security sites.
Ads rob bandwidth/speed paid for, security (adnetwork abuse), privacy in tracking + anonymity.
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogtrackers) natively. Hosts != blockable by ClarityRay (vs. souled-out to admen inferior wasteful redundant slow usermode browser addons)
Works vs. caps & HTTP PUSH ads w/ firewalls.
Avg. webpage = big as Doom http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
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"instant blue-screening"? How about kernel-mode code execution, hence why "this is about as bad as it can possibly get".
You would think that of all things, scanning engines of AV products would have buffer-overflow protection in place. But apparently, these are the same bad 3rd-rated coders that are responsible for the problem in the first place. And doing this in kernel-space? How insane can you get?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
It's meant to protect your computer(not really), not itself.
You eventually turned antivirus into virus.
Google cucks publishing irrelevant 0days while keeping even the good ones and selling them to NSA.
See subject: That hasn't propogated thru DNS even (takes up to 24 hours iirc) & my hosts data sources update in that time so you'd be protected (most likely).
* All the rest of what I wrote makes it better than antivirus (less moving parts for exploit or breakdown, less resource use, & more speed vs. LESS OF IT as Antivirus slows you down + is vulnerable as hell (not a 1st for Mr. Ormandy our subject & others finding exploitable buffer overflows & such in antivirus - FAR from it, especially lately...)
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APK
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