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ARM Announces Next-Gen 64-Bit Artemis Mobile Chip On 10nm TSMC FinFET Process (hothardware.com)
MojoKid writes from a report via Hot Hardware: ARM has been working closely with TSMC for years now. Over the last six years or so especially, ARM and TSMC have collaborated to ensure that TSMC's cutting-edge process technologies work well with ARM's processor IP. However recently, ARM just announced the successful tape-out of a test chip featuring next-generation, 64-Bit ARM v8-A mobile processor cores, codenamed Artemis, manufactured using TSMC's upcoming 10nm FinFET process technology. The test chip features what ARM calls an Artemis cluster. It's essentially a quad-core processor with power management IP, a single-shader Mali graphics core, AMBA AXI interconnect, and test ROMs connected to a second cluster by an asynchronous bridge that features the memory subsystem, which is stacked with a Cortex M core that handles control logic, some timers, SRAM, and external IO. Compared to 16nm FinFET+, at nominal voltage, the 10nm test chip offered a 12% performance improvement in a similar power envelope. In super-overdrive mode (Vsod), the Artemis test chip offered similar performance, but at 30% lower power.SoCs for premium mobile devices with next-generation cores produced on the 10nm process node are expected to arrive later in the second half of this year.
.. Bingo?
I think Intel needs to get some super-overdrive mode too if it wants to get down to 10nm as well... I think they're struggling with 14nm just now.
Does anybody know what's going on in the left of this picture from TFA?
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Mobile angular web apps might become usable now.
While there certainly are devices with more than 2GB, 1GB and 2GB are still the norm for budget and non-budget devices respectively (in the credible device space, that is. I know some PAYG phones are still 512M.) Are we going to see that come up to 2GB and 4GB any time soon?
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Oh my, they found Slashdot!
Ezekiel 23:20
Intel was trying to get into smartphones and failed. They're still in the tablet space though, where ARM still dominates, so the comparison is still valid.
You definitely wouldn't use ARM for servers
Oh you would if you had proper fabric and skilled programmers. Currently there's lack of both.
Ezekiel 23:20
Moto G4 Plus is $300 and comes with 4GB ram and 64GB of flash (plus SD card support!), the regular G4 is going to be ~$200 and 2GB of ram so I'd say they're coming and much sooner than this processor (released already in certain markets, coming to the US soon). The G4 also has a 5.5" 1080P screen so there's plenty of room to come in even cheaper by using a smaller and/or lower resolution screen.
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Unfortunately Intel's 10nm and TSMC's 10nm are two different processes and it's comparing apples to potatoes. TSMC is typical a half of a generation behind the leading foundries, and they have a tendency of stating a smaller process generation than they are really capable of producing. All TSMC's elements for 16nmFF are larger than 16nm in size. The same goes for their 10nm, there are always some big bullshit marketing slides in the presentations they give us to explain away the size discrepency. It boils down to different foundries using different standards for the "process size" of a generation.
The Aarch64 will certainly attract the required focus on proper fabric and skilled programmers. The result would take some years to show up, but it will.
I might have to get a G4+ after the first price drop. I have a G 2nd right now and the lack of ram is galling
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Intel has been producing 14nm in volume for quite some time now. Starting with Broadwell their chips have been 14nm. So any system you see with a 5000 or 6000 CPU is 14nm. That started in 2014.
In terms of 10nm, well let's see what happens. TSMC has a history of over promising. 40nm, 28nm and 16nm have all been cases where they've talked a big game about availability and then it has been large delays before it finally started happening, and small quantities/yield problems in the beginning even still. That doesn't mean they won't have 10nm out soon, but I'm not holding my breath based on past performance. As eve, I'll believe it when I see it.
There was no need to go to 64bit for additional ram anyways, ARMv7 supports a 40bit PAE which supports up to 1TB of ram.
The primary advantage of AArch64 is that it more than doubles the number of GP registers and the new SIMD instructions that leverage the larger registers.
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Well there's the Cortex-A32 which provides a 32bit version of ARMv8.
I'm not sure the jump to 64bit will be instantaneously universal if budget Cortex-A7 phones migrate to the A32.