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Pebble Unveils Pebble 2, Pebble Time 2, and Pebble Core Smartwatches (kickstarter.com)

Pebble on Tuesday unveiled its latest line of wearable devices. The company announced the Pebble 2 -- a sleeker successor to the company's four-year-old Pebble watch -- and the Pebble Time 2, which comes with a large colour display and steel frame. Both the devices are up on Kickstarter, and scheduled to be shipped later this year. The company also announced the Pebble Core, a square-shaped timepiece which supports 3G, GPS, and Bluetooth connections and lets users stream music using Spotify and make emergency calls without the need of a smartphone. The Pebble 2 and the Pebble Time 2 come equipped with heart-rate sensors, a feature that was missing from the earlier Pebble smartwatches. The Pebble Core runs Android 5.0 Lollipop, and also has a 4GB storage which users can use when they don't have a flash drive in handy. The Pebble 2 is priced at $99, whereas the Pebble Time 2 will cost you $169. The Pebble Core is priced at $69. Pebble's new devices will be up on Kickstarter for 36 days, should you feel the urge to support the company. However, it is worth noting that in within hours, Pebble has received more money than it had asked for.

77 comments

  1. Bigger display is appealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the things I don't like about my Pebble Time is how small the display is. More real estate would allow more legible watch faces and apps.

    1. Re:Bigger display is appealing by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      The other problem is that while it was really cool at the time, android wear has really caught up and does everything the pebble does with a wider variety of choices of watches and watchfaces.

      The only thing the pebble would still lead at is battery life (assuming it's still as good as it was with the first watch.)

    2. Re:Bigger display is appealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish they used an E Ink display in the Pebble 2 since it would extend battery life enormously.

    3. Re:Bigger display is appealing by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Battery life is the entire reason why I bought my Pebble Time in the last kickstarter.

      People who wear watches that need daily charging are either:
      1. People who take their fitness seriously - not applicable anymore with the Pebble Time 2 with the new heart rate monitor.
      2. Tossers who love showing off their smart watch and the Pebble's dimmer (but entirely usable) screen isn't suited for that.

    4. Re:Bigger display is appealing by Cramit · · Score: 1

      I never think about battery life on my Pebble Time. I throw it on the charger for the 15 minutes in the shower and I'm consistently between 90-100%, and when I go away for a weekend I don't bother bringing my charger and am at 20% at the end when I get home.

    5. Re:Bigger display is appealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I never think about battery life on my Timex. I throw it away and buy a new one every decade.

      Pebble has about a five day battery life. If they switched to E Ink, they could quadruple that.

  2. As a backer of all the releases.... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Pray you get your watch around December or January. I was one of the very first to get in on pebble time steel and mine did not show until late October.

    Just in time for them to announce, "your newwatch is obsolete! get the round one!"

    I have since walked away to the land of apple watch as they still do not have voice control on pebble working for ios nor any text responses.

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    1. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, don't kickstart anything of any kind. That was your first mistake. Only buy products that have been manufactured and ready for immediate sale. Your second mistake was thinking a smartwatch was a good idea.

    2. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Kickstarter isn't an online store, so it sucks to be you. I got my Pebble in under two hours through Prime Now, and will likely do the same with the next iteration.

    3. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Two hours? Wow! My usually take 2 days to get to me.

    4. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      Prime Now- if you live in certain locations (We have it here in Seattle), Amazon will send a dude in a car to drop your stuff off in a couple hours. It's awesome, though the merchandise available is more limited than Amazon in general, it does in fact include Pebbles and other electronics gadgets.

    5. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      No I feel like a chump - lol.

      Do they support multiple addresses? My family all sign on as my brother even though we live all over the country.

    6. Re:As a backer of all the releases.... by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      They sure do, my girlfriend and I both use my prime account, and we live in different parts of the Seattle area
      In downtown Seattle, they'll even deliver you hot lunch from local restaurants.

      https://primenow.amazon.com/
      "View all cities" - it appears they have it in lots of metro areas.

  3. smartwatches by Phusion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was really excited when the Pebble was first announced. I was tired of taking my phone out of my pocket for every little message/alert and when I wanted to know the time. It was sleek, lightweight and seemed to have support for my iPhone. I never ended up buying one, mostly because I couldn't afford it or justify buying one, as it's kind of a luxury, I guess. This new model looks even sweeter, I might have to buy one. I don't think I have any use for the Pebble Core, but I think the Pebble guys got the smart watch right, unlike a certain fruit based company that made a mostly useless, but fashionable piece of hardware. It looks great in photos, but in real life, on your wrist, I think it's not very impressive, or useful. I hope these start shipping sooner than later so I can give it a whirl.

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  4. Dim by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    The screen is too dim.

    1. Re:Dim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing there is a back light.

    2. Re:Dim by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      On the watch, at least.

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    3. Re:Dim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please explain. Pebble screens are always on, work in full direct sunlight and also have an adjustable backlight. It's the most readable screen on any mobile device that currently exists.

  5. Re:Who cares? by Major+Blud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why should I care about this?

    You absolutely shouldn't, but that doesn't mean other people don't.

    They're obviously far inferior to the Apple Watch.

    I don't think that's the point as far as Pebble is concerned. Not everyone needs all of the functionality of an Apple Watch. I have a Pebble Steel, and it does exactly what I need it to...passive notifications delivered to me with a battery life spanning multiple days. I don't need a color display, speech control, or a touch screen.

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  6. All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    Smartwatches are the 2016 equivalent to walking around with a bluetooth in your ear 24/7.

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    1. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by geek · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches are the 2016 equivalent to walking around with a bluetooth in your ear 24/7.

      I used to agree. I tried a pebble and liked it but the apps suck and it lacked a heart rate monitor. I ended up getting a Garmin Vivosmart HR which works as a watch/fitness tracker with notifications from my phone and some basic stuff like weather etc. I love it. I actually took it off for a week because my wrist was getting irritated and I noticed the difference of not having notifications on my wrist. I wear slightly baggy pants and keep my phone in my pocket. I rarely feel it vibrate and I prefer to not have audible noises coming from it that will irritate others. The slight vibration on my wrist I find invaluable.

      The problem with the watches and fitness trackers is no one is doing it right. The android wear devices are fucking enormous, the Apple watch is horrendously overpriced with terrible battery life. Pebble gets a lot right but the software needs maturity.

      No one has hit it out of the park yet. My Garmin is close to perfect for me, aside from the fact its ugly as shit. Luckily I dont get dressed up often so its not a problem for me.

    2. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by joelsherrill · · Score: 1

      I have had an LG Urbane for a year and IMO it is not that heavy and is decent looking when viewed as just a watch. There are lots of fancy faces available but I use a simple analog one that shows the next calendar item.

      I

    3. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches are the 2016 equivalent to walking around with a bluetooth in your ear 24/7.

      Yeah, everyone knows bluetooth implants are the way to go.

    4. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean you haven't heard of the eyePhone yet?

    5. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Why is it called an eyePhone?

    6. Re:All smart watches are pointless ~nt~ by random+coward · · Score: 1

      Have any of them actually gotten hart rate working correctly, or are they all approximations based on vaso-dilation or some such, like fitbit?

  7. Why Kickstarter? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    For their first device, sure. But at this point they're an established business - why should anyone basically just give them free money?

    I see the point from Pebble's perspective - they are trying to avoid directly competing in the marketplace. But why would anyone buy into it?

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    1. Re:Why Kickstarter? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Being on Kickstarter gives them free extra publicity, especially since that's how they started years ago.

  8. The latest tech by BigU+03C0mpin · · Score: 1

    Is a rip of a 1940's comic strip tech.

    I wonder if it'll be able to play lemmings.

  9. this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Espectr0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    wonderful 7 to 10 day battery. easy to read screen. built in health monitoring. excellent price. my only complain is that they didn't announce a steel model, which i still use. If i use a display that only updates once per minute and no notifications, battery lasts 2 weeks.

    1. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      If i use a display that only updates once per minute and no notifications, battery lasts 2 weeks.

      I've got one ("Very Fuzzy") that only updates about every 10 minutes. Right now the time reads "one or so".

      It sounds silly (and it is), but its also very functional. Its very rare when I check the time that I actually want more precision than that.

    2. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is by far more appealing to me than Apple Watch, which I write as an iPhone and MBP user.

      However, to the extent that "health monitoring" is a central feature that add to cost or comes at the expense of other functionality -- no thanks. If it is a small marginal increase of cost and I never need to know that it exists, fine.

      I gather than some people like these features, but I have my doubts that enthusiasm over health rate monitoring correlates to healthful activities or choices, and I suspect that "false hustle" over these gimmicks is more often used to rationalize unhealthy habits. Whatever, I have not use for the whole concept.

    3. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by hey! · · Score: 1

      And, if the original is anything to go by, terrible build quality. Mine had screen tearing practically from the day it was out of warranty, and when I looked into it this was a *very* common problem, and by design the thing is impossible to repair.

      Otherwise I liked my Pebble; it was ugly as sin but functional. But I'll wouldn't buy another one from the company, particularly not one of the more expensive ones, unless they come with a three year warranty. I hate buying stuff that that ends up getting tossed into the landfill after a year.

      I'm very happy with my Fitbit Surge, although it is a tad to thick to wear with dress clothes and it gives me an alarming looking (although painless) skin rash if I don't swap arms every day. I miss some of the apps and customizable notification capabilities of the Pebble, but the key thing is that the Surge gives me flawlessly reliable service, and that trumps features in my book.

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    4. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Wizarth · · Score: 1

      I agree the screen tearing issue with the Pebble OG really sucks (although to be fair, it's plausible it didn't show up in QA, since it's an interaction with the case slightly changing shape after multiple warm/cool cycles). Given that it's been fixed with the Time models, I assume it's also fixed for the 2's.

      Fortunately for me, I'm in Australia, where it's law to have a minimum 2 year warranty.

    5. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Oh, so you have one too AC?

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    6. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone knows you're a fucking loser Coren22. How many times did Apk smack you around here on slashdot? A dozen? Not that it's some huge victory considering you're a brain-damaged autistic defective by birth and even more so considering you're a do nothing of note in computing limited nobody.

    7. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows you're a fucking loser Coren22. How many times did Apk smack you around here on slashdot?

      Zero. Though you do love coming back for more every time I prove you wrong and inept.

      Not that it's some huge victory considering you're a brain-damaged autistic defective by birth and even more so considering you're a do nothing of note in computing limited nobody.

      Aww, are you trying to hurt my feelings. Keep on tilting APKuixote, one of these days those windmills will fall to your attacks.

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    8. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You project you're wrong here https://slashdot.org/comments.... and your reply now gives it away. If it didn't bug you, you wouldn't reply.

    9. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You mean where I totally destroyed your argument? That time? You are hilarious.

      No, it doesn't bug me, I just enjoy all the attention. It is fun proving you incompetent over and over. But at least no one thinks what I do is malware, so I am all good with my life.

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    10. Re:this is what a smartwatch is supposed to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tough to deny yourself quoted where you destroyed yourself Coren22 https://slashdot.org/comments....

  10. Still Looks Like a Toy by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 1

    As much as I want to like Pebble, I just can't get behind their aesthetics. I feel this is an issue about most smart watches in general, but Pebble with their shape, bands, and plastic casings feel particularly toy-like in my opinion. I would love to see their screen technology in a more formal form. Their metal line is a step in the right direction, but still has a ways to go before I'd wear one to work.

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    1. Re:Still Looks Like a Toy by Espectr0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      my pebble steel (black) looks classy with my long sleeve shirt and tie. sadly no steel product was announced today, all other models do look as toys as you stated.

    2. Re:Still Looks Like a Toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Time 2's are all "marine grade stainless steel". They've consolidated the Time/Time Steel into a single line.

    3. Re:Still Looks Like a Toy by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't come with a steel bracelet, so it is still plastic to me. I know i can buy a separate one, but i shouldn't need to

  11. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I find the Apple Watch inferior as its requirement to recharge everyday seems unacceptable to me, plus I believe the screen is not even on all the time, which is another no-go for my usage: a watch that tells time, and can notify me of messages, calls, and voice-recognise my answers.

  12. Re:Who cares? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why should I care about this? They're obviously far inferior to the Apple Watch.

    Having owned both Pebble* and Apple Watch, and I even much prefer the Apple Watch over the Pebble, um, no, it's not as clear-cut as you make it. Pebble is significantly cheaper, the battery life is waaaay better, and it works on Android. I mainly prefer the Apple Watch because it actually shows you the complete messages you get and not just the notifications on a screen that's much more readable.

    For me the question of whether you want a smartwatch or not depends on how heavily you keep up-to-date with messages etc. Price and battery life are huge factors in that decision. Based on the questions people have asked me about smartwatches I'd more often recommend a Pebble Watch over an Apple Watch even though I think the Apple Watch is far more useful. So, yes, I do think you should care about this. It's always good to know about the alternatives.

    * I"m only talking about the first gen Pebble, I haven't used the later ones.

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  13. Time2+Core = mobile Internet with no phone by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    This is the interesting thing that kind of jumped out at me, perhaps because I've been known to tether a tablet to a phone via Bluetooth for lower power consumption.

    This is starting to move towards the Personal Area Network, where you have one device with Internet access (phone or Core) sharing it via Bluetooth with other devices you're wearing (watch, Google Glass, etc.).

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  14. Interesting by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you look at the videos, all of the devices seem kind of large still.

    But the devices obviously have a draw to them, already nearly $3 million and just started. It's amazing how they can keep going back to the Kickstarter well, and pull up another bucks filled past the brim with cool clear funding.

    I have to admit that even though I have the Time and ended up preferring the Apple Watch instead, I like the ideas Pebble has and the directions they are taking the product. Especially the pebble core seems like an interesting idea, almost like a portable Amazon Echo - the only thing I think is a mistake there is it should also have some kind of heart monitor, if they really mean for it to be used in exercise.

    I' considering getting the Time 2 and the Core, but it;s nice to see Pebble will carry on whatever I decide.

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  15. Steel model by phorm · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was wondering about the steel model myself, but looking at the specs it appears that the Time 2 is steel, though with a standard plastic band out of the box.

    The description near the top of "about this project" on the kickstarter says:
    "A premium heart rate enable stainless-steel smartwatch with an updated color display"

    My current pebble supports standard watch bands, so I'd imagine the Time 2 will also. I've ordered a Time 2 and will just get a nice steel band for it (or take one off of one of my older watches).

  16. Core Departure by T.E.D. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The others are just new generations of Pebbles. The Core however is something altogether different.

    It looks like a device to take the whole "talking to the network" functionality off of your "phone" and put it into is own displayless device. The implication of this is that there's now no need to "upgrade" this component constantly. The only time you'd need a new one is when there's a newer faster cell network tech you want to connect to. But even when that happens, its only a $69 upgrade.

    If you want to do stuff like run apps, or surf the web, you can do that with a separate device, which you can "upgrade" whenever you want a new display technology. That device could have the form-factor of a phone, or a full-blown tablet, or something in-between. Whatever you want. But it now has nothing to do with a cell carrier whatsoever. The Cell carrier only interacts with your $69 Core unit.

    This completely changes the way we (well, I at least) think about cellurlar tech. Its going to take some time to fully wrap my head around it.

    1. Re:Core Departure by corychristison · · Score: 1

      The Pebble Core looks really interesting to me.

      In a previous article discussing diabetes I posted wishing there was a Glucometer that could push data directly over Wifi. Unfortunately they only go over Bluetooth.

      This Pebble Core could be a cheap, hackable, interim solution to what I was looking for. My young son is a Type 1 Diabetic, and I would love to receive alerts that he is actually checking his glucose levels when he is supposed to. This is small enough I could clip it to his backpack when he goes off to the side to check is BG levels I could set it up to relay over this device and send me a text directly, or over Wifi to e-mail me. He's 6 years old and I don't want to pack in a full blown smart phone just for this functionality.

      I've already pledged to get one in the first run to tinker with.

    2. Re:Core Departure by j2.718ff · · Score: 1

      I've occasionally thought one feature that would be cool (but not necessary) to have in a fitness smartwatch is live network connectivity. I think the biggest reason it's not being done is that it would increase the physical size, and drain the battery. The core looks like a great compromise. I definitely think this is the kind of thing that will only appeal to the early-adopter kind of tech geeks. In a few years, either people will either decide it's a silly, unnecessary feature, or else the tech will have miniaturized enough to fit it inside the watch itself.

      As I recall, the first GPS watch couldn't fit the GPS inside the watch itself, so you had a cellphone-sized brick you had to carry with you. At the time, it was a good compromise, and I think the core is the same idea.

  17. Breaking ties with smartphones? by normanjd · · Score: 1

    The Pebble Core is the big news to me... Looks to me like the start of adding 3G to the watch so a Cell is no longer needed at all. Will be interesting to see if it ends up as being part of a watch band. Also wonder if it would pair with the older Pebbles... (Bet it will...)

  18. thin pickings by epine · · Score: 1

    For the Time 2 early bird, as of 11:15 there are "514 left of 10000" and I also discovered that this will set me back $169 plus another $15 for shipping.

    I was going to jump on this but I couldn't find the formal specifications concerning watch dimensions, number of pixels, amount of storage. The early bird will be gone by the time I have this purchase fully triangulated, but I guess that's a formal element of the Kickstarter business model.

    Once the early bird is gone, the discount for buying sight-unseen becomes even less attractive.

    I have a non-circadian sleep disorder and my first Pebble watch was a big part of me finding a solution to control this. On that basis, it would be pretty easy for my to update my Pebble relationship. Unfortunately, Pebble doesn't focus much these days on their original hacker mojo. Instead you get promotional videos with rainbows in the background, and oblique filming angles so you can't really see how huge it looks on bikini girl's not-especially-slender wrist.

    Moreover, now that I no longer need to custom program a 25.5 hour calendar day this is more a luxury (with an immense amount of nostalgia on top) than an essential purchase. I wanted to get one for my wife too, as a kind of thank-you gift for what she went through as I found my sleep solution. As someone who rides dressage, she has a way to make the watch look smaller on her wrist than it really is, up to a point.

    Guess my appreciation gift will have to wait for the Pebble Steel Mini.

    Update: At 11:30, now down to the last 106 on the Time 2 early bird.

  19. Core w/o paying for a wireless service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would pay ~$400 for a device like the core that had a built in unlimited 3g service (similar to the original kindles). I've actually been searching for something like the core for a while. I have completely stopped buying/using MP3's, 90% of my music consumption is streamed (sadly 10% is still radio). I'd love to be able to run and not have my cell phone with me.

    The price of the core is very appealing but having to pay for a new sim card and/or switching a sim card out all the time is a big deterrent.

  20. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, why are you spreading lies??

    EVERYONE NEEDS AN APPLE WATCH! - yes, even people that already have one. iThings are magical.

    Honestly I don't normally lash out like that but hate speed is something I oppose.

    #justbecause

  21. They almost had me by pchasco · · Score: 1

    They need to put the GPS into the watch. Do that and I'll bite.

    1. Re:They almost had me by anjrober · · Score: 1

      garmin has done this for years
      check them out.
      i'm on my third model

    2. Re: They almost had me by pchasco · · Score: 1

      But does it run apps? Get text messages? Spotify?

    3. Re: They almost had me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U can definitly get texts and use simple apps. Check out the forerunner 235.

  22. Not easy to read by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I have both an Apple Watch, and a Pebble Time (the last color model). The Apple Watch is much easier to read, even in direct sunlight - eiInk is a nice idea but is low contrast. Indoors even with the backlight I found the eInk super hard to read.

    The newer Time at least has a larger display, perhaps it will be easier to read than the first model.

    I figure with as much money as they have pledged already, they will for sure do a steel model.

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    1. Re:Not easy to read by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

      i don't have a color model, but i can tell you that my steel actually reads BETTER in direct sunlight

    2. Re:Not easy to read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have both an Apple Watch, and a Pebble Time (the last color model). The Apple Watch is much easier to read, even in direct sunlight - eiInk is a nice idea but is low contrast. Indoors even with the backlight I found the eInk super hard to read.

      Pebble doesn't use E Ink, it uses Sharp Memory LCD. If it were an E Ink display, it would be much more readable than the Apple Watch.

    3. Re:Not easy to read by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      They both read better in direct sunlight than indoors. But they also both do not read as well as the Apple Watch which has a very bright display... the Apple Watch is of course not always on, which is a downside. But at least I can read it anywhere. Indoors I found the Time just about hopeless, even with the backlight on!

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  23. Re:Who cares? by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

    Could not agree more on all points.
    I have a first gen, and Pebble Time Steel (also kickstarter bought)- same deal, though the newer Pebble is "nicer" with the color screen.
    I have my 2 pebbles, and an Apple Watch, and it's a seriously tough decision to decide which I want to stick with. The Apple Watch has some cool ass functionality available to it via Watch apps... better (for me) than the Pebble's available apps- but the Pebble (color, at least) looks pretty damn nice, gets the job done, and I don't have to charge the damn thing for over a week... And I honestly don't use all the Apple Watch apps I have any more than I use the Pebble ones, in spite of cooler ones being available... It's definitely a matter of personal preference, and it's definitely not clear cut which is... "Better"

  24. Wrong, e-Paper by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I was not quite right, but it's absolutely not an LCD. It's e-Paper (not e-Ink). Otherwise it could not be always on with such a long battery life.

    Example sentence from the article:

    Electronic paper technologies have a very low refresh rate compared to other low-power display technologies, such as LCD.

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    1. Re:Wrong, e-Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. "e-paper" is a catchall term for *any* display type that tries to simulate ink on paper, whether it's LCD, OLED or anything else. The Pebble watches use Sharp's Memory LCDs, that is a fact.

      E Ink is a distinctly different technology with better contrast and better power efficiency.

  25. I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't trust any single security researcher" - by Coren22 ( 1625475 ) on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:46AM (#51963859)

    Refresh my memory - HOW MANY 'sources' DID YOU HAVE? 1 - a NOBODY of 1 & only 1 (& you trusted that? EAT YOUR WORDS imbecile)

    See subject: You said YOU don't trust only 1 source - all you HAD was 1 stupid (one that avoids me as they know I will smash them to bits as I have dozens of others LIKE them stupid enough to get in my way)...

    By comparison?

    I have over 60++ of FAR GREATER REPUTE that crushed you dimwit but you're always opening your mouth & inserting your FOOT stupid eating YOUR words vs. myself https://slashdot.org/comments....

    APK

    P.S.=> Face facts, you pitiful little wannabe LIMITED chump - I am YOUR "APKolypse" & you only did that to yourself as usual, stupid (& as to the rest of your bullshit? You DON'T DO ANYTHING @ ALL in the art & science of computing moron - prove otherwise (tough to do, hiding behind a FAKE NAME online like you, scumbag weasel))... apk

    1. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You know, I just LOVE it when you go full retard. It makes my day when I get under your skin so bad that you post on every one of my comments. I LOVE it when you go crazy like this.

      Refresh my memory - HOW MANY 'sources' DID YOU HAVE? 1 - a NOBODY of 1 & only 1 (& you trusted that? EAT YOUR WORDS imbecile)

      Ever done any science? It only takes one example to disprove a theory. It only takes one post of lack of trust to ruin what little trust you may have, and the way you act on Slashdot demonstrates that you don't deserve any trust to begin with, so you have to earn trust, not just expect to be given it. Yes, I gave one example of your software not being trusted to prove a point, you still only have one person who says your software isn't doing anything shady, and that isn't even what he says!

      I have over 60++ of FAR GREATER REPUTE that crushed you dimwit but you're always opening your mouth & inserting your FOOT stupid eating YOUR words vs. myself https://slashdot.org/comments.... [slashdot.org]

      No, you don't. You have virus scanners indicating your software is not a virus. Not a single of those sources says you aren't now, and will never redirect my banking site to your private servers. There is no guarantee that someone as unhinged as you won't do so. Just look at how you react when someone DARES to question your legitimacy.

      FYI, you might want to look at that link again, it looks like you lost Mr Burn's support:

      http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    2. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He still hosts his ware stupid. It's clean. Many here like it. He posted all that. You do the same? No. You're a techie nobody that uses what others like apk write. That's all and you know it loser. Even your bitch got knocked up by another man to get rid of your sorry retarded ass. She didn't want to make more of your defective kind obviously.

    3. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It is amazing how much you know about me AC, you couldn't possibly be another troll post of APKs, could you? Considering how far off base you are, it is the only possible explanation.

      Hint, me not telling you about my work has nothing to do with the lack of existence, however, that has no bearing on my ability to criticise your shitty product that is a horrible security vulnerability all by itself.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    4. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't even have the one proof you claim is needed to prove you have any though. I don't think you have even one.

    5. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Was that English? I can't pull a coherent thought out of that word salad. I just picture you foaming at the mouth while you curse my name for daring to question the ultimate supremacy of APKs computer skills. As if you have any actual skills beyond a little bit of scripting knowledge and the ability to shout down anyone who dares question your abilities, as if you ever had any real ability.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    6. Re:I enjoy making YOU EAT YOUR WORDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. I used your statement that having a single example is enough. You don't even have that for work you allegedly did in programming. You were vastly outnumbered by apk's source examples as well. If you can't handle that you're easily out thought using your own words then you are delusional.