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Antibiotic-Resistant E Coli Reaches The US For The First Time (reuters.com)

New submitter maharvey writes: A woman in Pennsylvania has contracted a strain of E Coli that is unaffected by all known legal antibiotics, including the antibiotics of last resort. We have had bacteria that were resistant, but this is the first bacteria that is completely immune. Such bacteria were known in China, but since the woman has not traveled recently it means she contracted it in the wild in the USA. This is a major step toward the terrifying post-antibiotic world.

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  1. the chickens. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    they've come home to roost.

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  2. Re:Does vodka help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I regularly have my Russian women consume vodka before placing their proverbial lips on my appendage. That is, after I place my tinfoil hat on and cross my fingers. So far so good. My anecdotal evidence supports your inquiry AND you read it here on the internet so it must be true.

  3. Antibiotic abuse and biodiversity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Biodiversity is a good thing, but we're destroying it. We need to allow nature to create new antibiotics and use those as needed.

    Also, there are some fucking absurd abuses of antibiotics. Doctors are way too quick to wrote prescriptions when they aren't necessary. We need to stop prescribing antibiotics when they aren't necessary for infections that will be stopped by the body's immune system or as preventive measures.

    Furthermore, we shouldn't be wasting antibiotics on animals, especially for cattle. I'm sorry that one of the animals in your herd is sick. There's no fucking reason to put antibiotics in the feed of all of your cattle. That's fucking ridiculous. Don't use antibiotics on cattle.

    This is a fucking big deal. People who misuse antibiotics should lose their license to practice medicine. I'd also support prison time for it.

    1. Re:Antibiotic abuse and biodiversity by golodh · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Apart from your gratuitous use of the f-word, I agree.

      Perhaps this woman's imminent death can serve as a rallying point to ban the (grossly irresponsible) use of antibiotics in foodstock fodder.

      Expect the foodstock industry to fight any such suggestion tooth and nail of course. Such a ban will cost them money since foodstock put on weight more slowly when not dosed with low levels of antibiotics, and any scare stories about antibiotics-resistant bacteria are "so many radical treehuggers' fantasies" of course.

      "Huh ... it's already happened you say? I thought we had another five years at least. Hmm ... denounce the linkage a speculation based on evolution theory, increase the lobbyist budget, and see if we can't get a deal with a nice understanding conservative presidential candidate."

      Why oh why do we need to actually see an antibiotics-resistant bacteria infect somebody before we'll acknowledge the blindingly obvious about to happen?

    2. Re:Antibiotic abuse and biodiversity by yes-but-no · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why oh why do we need to actually see an antibiotics-resistant bacteria infect somebody before we'll acknowledge the blindingly obvious about to happen?

      Because, Sir, we as a species are dumb.

    3. Re:Antibiotic abuse and biodiversity by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well... we lack anything at all to stop it from doing so.

      We may lack anything. But she has something ... it's called an immune system.

      Note, also, that the Reuters story has been corrected. They analyzed the woman's bacteria and noticed it would be resistant to colistin, a "last-resort antibiotic." It's not resistant to all the other ones, too -- unlike what the first version of the story said. It's just that we know bacteria can be resistant to all the other ones, and it wouldn't be so hard for this strain to pick up those other genes, resulting in an unstoppable bacteria. This is not that unstoppable bacteria; but it's proven once again that it is theoretically possible for one to exist.

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  4. Perhaps not use antibiotics on animals by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what about not using antibiotics on living animals? They serve as a feeding ground for antibiotics. The price would be that you have to pay more for products that include flesh, because you would have to isolate the animals better, in order to stop spreading illnesses.

  5. Nice job humanity! by slacka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Total Failure of Government and Society and not a good sign for the future of the human race. I personally have been well aware of the risks of Antibiotic-Resistant for over 20 years. This was the text book example of natural selection in my High School Biology class.

    Instead of listening to the scientists and public health officals on the risks, we have let the greed and money in big ag run make our laws. We let them dump antibiotics in our livestock food in so we could have cheap meat and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

    Welcome back to the pre-antibiotic era where a cut can be deadly and hospitals can kill you. Nice job humanity!

  6. "Such bacteria were known in China..." by JoeyRox · · Score: 3, Funny

    More proof of our trade imbalance with China.

  7. Re:Try the original antibiotic by ttucker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until you turn blue.

  8. Re:Blame the farmers .. yeah ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is only a problem for factory farms. Regular farms don't need to rely on antibiotics to keep animals healthy.

    We should ban factory farming techniques.

    It will drive the price of meat up significantly. That's fine; a whole generation of first-worlders can learn just how protein-rich a plant-based diet can be (before you object, be aware that the shaolin monks (the most powerful athletes in the world) live on a strictly vegan diet from the day they start training (at around 5 years of age). If THEY can do it, so can you!)

  9. Crop Rotation by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a stupid question, but I've always wondered why old (very old, unused for decades) antibacterials can't be resurrected with a restored effectiveness. I liken it to the idea of rotating crops so the field soils aren't totally stripped of nutrients by planting the same crop year after year.

    I mean: what does in benefit rather simple organisms to continue to pass along resistance to a spectrum of anti-biotic that their ancestors hadn't been exposed to in decades (and that's how many bacterial generations)? Isn't there a 'carrying capacity' or 'memory limit' to what can be added to their code that has to be slowly deprecated / de-prioritized just for physical space constraints? Asserting they have the Borg-like ability to perfectly add to their defenses without end, sounds a bit too apocalyptic to me.

    1. Re:Crop Rotation by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is a stupid question, but I've always wondered why old (very old, unused for decades) antibacterials can't be resurrected with a restored effectiveness. I liken it to the idea of rotating crops so the field soils aren't totally stripped of nutrients by planting the same crop year after year.

      It's not a stupid question at all. Frankly, people should be asking this question in case nobody thought of it. The problem is that this has actually been tried and in a lot of cases it hasn't helped. Some of the older drugs stopped being used because they were toxic or had some very undesirable possible side effects and they were replaced with drugs that were safer to the patient to use. It turns out that once bacteria start getting highly resistant that they are basically resistant to almost everything including the older drugs. We desperately need drug manufacturers to get interested in new lines of antibiotics, but due to research cost there hasn't been a lot of interest in developing new ones. And as others have pointed out given how the government seems completely and utterly disinterested in the USA (and other countries) in stopping people from giving antibiotics to livestock, we've created this mess ourselves and seem oddly uninterested in fixing it.

  10. Re:Blame the farmers .. yeah ! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Personal responsibility (or rather "don't give a shit about anyone but yourself") yes. But god forbid corporations would be responsible for anything they do! That could endanger jobs! Not to mention profits.

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  11. Re:Blame the farmers .. yeah ! by dow · · Score: 5, Informative

    Real life farmer here. Maybe is the USA cows in pastures are a lie, but in the UK ours spend the summer out in the fields. It's cheaper to keep them in a pasture than in a barn. Also, we don't feed our cows antibiotics. Again, that's something they might do in the US, but in Europe antibiotics in cattle feeds have been banned for quite some time. We have some factory farms in the UK also, but nothing the size of many US herds. One farmer wanted to build an eight thousand head farm, but it made national news and there was massive public resistance. They do not want that sort of farm in the UK.

    If you want to blame farmers for using such practises, blame yourself for looking for the cheapest food you can get. Supermarkets compete on prices. You wanted cheap food, you got cheap food. Now, you realise the price of that cheap food. The farmers were just giving people what they wanted, the cheapest food they could produce. Did you ever pick up an item at the supermarket and think that it was too cheap? When it comes to many quality foods, people should really stop asking themselves "Why is it so expensive?" and ask "Why is the other stuff so cheap?"