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SpaceX Successfully Lands A Falcon 9 Rocket At Sea For The Third Time (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: SpaceX has successfully landed the first stage of its Falcon 9 rocket on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean for the third time in a row. The Verge reports: "It was the third time in a row the company has landed a rocket booster at sea, and the fourth time overall. The landing occurred a few minutes before the second stage of the Falcon 9 delivered the THAICOM-8 satellite to space, where it will make its way to geostationary geostationary transfer orbit (GTO). GTO is a high-elliptical orbit that is popular for satellites, sitting more than 20,000 miles above the Earth. The 3,100-kilogram satellite will spend 15 years improving television and data signals across Southeast Asia." The company landed its Falcon 9 rocket on a drone ship for the second time earlier this month. UPDATE 5/27/15: Frank249 writes in a comment: "Elon Musk just tweeted: 'Rocket landing speed was close to design max and used up contingency crush core, hence back and forth motion. Prob ok, but some risk of tipping.'" He went on to tweet: "Crush core is aluminum honeycomb for energy absorption in the telescoping actuator. Easy to replace (if Falcon makes it back to port)."

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  1. Congratulations! by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations to everyone at Space X who contributed to this awesome achievement! You have made space flight exciting again!

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    1. Re:Congratulations! by SpankiMonki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I watched the live stream on this newfangled internet thingy and I must say, I felt a little bit of the old excitement I experienced as a kid when watching the Apollo missions on our old black & white TV back in the day. Sticking that landing (on a friggin drone ship fer Chrissakes) for the second time in a row is one heckuva feat of engineering,

      Tell you what, those SpaceX kids are welcome on my lawn anytime.

    2. Re:Congratulations! by Sir+Holo · · Score: 2

      Congratulations to everyone at Space X who contributed to this awesome achievement! You have made space flight exciting again!

      I agree with you. Completely.

      And the fact that is being met with by a yawn from the popular press is a signal that the incredible achievements of SpaceX are "the new normal."

      Now that is yet another Grand Accomplishment!

    3. Re:Congratulations! by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

      They only get a chase plane when it is a NASA launch since NASA supplies that. So there won't be any chase plane footage in this case.

  2. Bit of a hard landing by frank249 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Elon Musk just tweeted: 'Rocket landing speed was close to design max & used up contingency crush core, hence back & forth motion. Prob ok, but some risk of tipping.'

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    1. Re:Bit of a hard landing by frank249 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Musk continues: 'Crush core is aluminum honeycomb for energy absorption in the telescoping actuator. Easy to replace (if Falcon makes it back to port).'

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  3. Re:A waste of effort by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

    Global warming and world hunger are both problems with direct benefits from cheap space access. Cheaper space access means better environmental modeling since we can have more weather and climate satellites. That also means that farmers and the like get better data which helps plan crops. Also, better weather reports along with GPS help reduce the cost of ocean and air travel making moving food and other goods easier, faster, and use less fossil fuels.

    Moreover, in the long-run, not having all humans on one very tiny rock is a definite practical benefit.

  4. Re:A waste of effort by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Why are we doing things like this? They're a waste of time and money, which could be spent on things like curing HIV and cancer, ending world hunger, or finding a solution to global warming. Spaceflight solves none of these problems and is a complete waste of money. It's also a waste of talent because these scientists could be putting their effort into solving so many more important problems. Why go to space when we need to solve our problems here on Earth? I'll be censored to -1 because this is unpopular with Slashdot users, most of whom don't care about solving the real problems in the world.

    Because we could put every available cent into solving the world's problems, and we'd end up broke, and still with all the world's problems.

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  5. Re:A waste of effort by mschuyler · · Score: 2

    They launched a communications satellite into orbit. It's not a "waste" of anything. They aren't "exploring space." They are a company that was hired to perform a task for a company and they did it. By doing it the way they did they can reduce the cost of launches by 30%. It's no different than hiring a trucking company to haul produce to market.

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  6. Re:A waste of effort by HanzoSpam · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can't tell if you're trolling or doing a sarcastic piss-take of an SJW. However. "We" aren't doing it, Elon Musk and SpaceX are doing it. They are doing it because it's Musk's money and Musk's company, so they're going to be doing what's important to Musk, not what's important to you. If you disagree, feel free to earn a few billion of your own dollars and and start your own company and then go ahead and try to solve whatever problems are important to you. Best of luck in your new endeavors. You're welcome.

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  7. Very clear landing but a little hard by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Elon's tweeted that the landing came down a bit hard but it shouldn't have done anything but impacted the crumple zones on the landing legs. Since the legs are replaced anyways, this shouldn't impact reusability. Right now, this is the fourth successful landing, and it looks like the basics of landing have been really worked out. Whether they can then actually reuse them is still in the air.

    Also, there's been prior speculation that SpaceX was going to try to reuse the fairing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payload_fairing- which is the nose cone around the payload which helps protect the payload and keep it aerodynamic during the first part of the launch. If they can do fairing recover and reuse that would be another avenue for serious cost reduction. They mentioned fairing reuse as something they were working towards on the broadcast which is as far as I know the most prominent time they've mentioned it. So it looks like they are going to be trying to seriously do that. How much this all actually reduces cost remains to be seen.

    Right now, even without reuse, SpaceX is substantially cheaper than every other company for the medium size payloads. (They aren't launching the really small ones and until the Falcon Heavy is set up they won't be able to launch the really big ones). So even without reuse they are having a substantial impact on the market. The other major players, ULA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance (which is a joint Boeing and Lockheed company) and Ariane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance (the big French rocket launcher who is currently the biggest rocket launch company) are both planning on reuse programs, but they are essentially playing catchup. ULA has a plan for just reusing the engines which may be interesting. Ariane has a similarly interesting idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adeline_(rocket) but neither imagines reuse any earlier than 2020, by which point, SpaceX will have been doing full first stage reuse and probably even doing reuse for the Falcon Heavy and will be working on their next generation Raptor rockets. That's not to say that ULA and the others aren't doing interesting things - their ACES proposal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Cryogenic_Evolved_Stage is really neat, but in terms of reducing cost through reuse, SpaceX is way ahead of everyone else.

    1. Re:Very clear landing but a little hard by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

      Did you read where I noted that even without reuse they are cheaper than the competitors?

  8. Re:When will the Falcon 9 become reusable? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is there a time line out there when the will actually reuse a Falcon 9 rocket? What type of milestones are they looking for?

    The plan currently is for the first reuse to occur by the end of summer http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/09/falcon_9_rocket_reused_in_two_months/ but given SpaceX's general tendency to not do things on time, by November seems like a safer bet.

    If I understand correctly the rockets that they are recovering are for evaluating purposes only. That is, they are trying to figure out the type of stress and damage a rocket undergoes so they can design a rocket that is durable enough to be launched. The last one suffered so much damage that it could never fly again.

    Not quite. The first landed rocket was kept for evaluation purposes. The one that suffered damage seemed to be possibly reflyable but given the damage they decided that it was better to subject to it to very extensive testing. They are intending to relaunch (very likely it will be the second landed one which landed on the drone ship).

  9. Re:A waste of effort by werepants · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why pay for an internet connection to bitch on slashdot when you could use that money to feed a starving child somewhere in the world? How dare we allow mindless entertainment like sports, movies, or video games to exist when the money from any one of those industries could pay to keep people fed across the globe?

    The truth is, there are far more useless things out there than telecom satellites and research spacecraft, and in fact, the satellites you dislike so much contribute directly to solving those issues you complain about (like collecting data about icecaps to better inform climate scientists). You're either trolling or completely ignorant.

  10. Fess up time by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As a skeptic of the process, I appear to have been wrong, now that they have the bugs worked out.

    So good work, Spacex! Landing pencils is quite a trick, and yer doin' it.

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  11. Re:Big fuckin deal by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We haven't really made any real technological progress since the 1970s.

    He said, on the Internet.

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  12. honeycomb crush core? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    so he's the boss of a company distributing solar panels, making electric cars and created reusable rockets which is all well and good but now he's beating so many levels in Candy Crush that's cleared entire areas I haven't even heard about?! but... that's my specialty. STAY IN YOUR LANE ELON! >:(

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  13. Re:A waste of effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Social Justice: When an SJW gets punched in the face.
    Hell of a sig there, Hanzo. Advocating violence. What are you, twelve years old?

  14. Re:How Many Times Can You Recycle? by caseih · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Elon Musk has stated that their design goal is 100 uses. That's pretty ambitious and time will tell if this is feasible or not. I'm sure when they do reuse the stage for the first dozen times they will be doing a lot of structural analysis and look for cracks with x-rays until they completely understand the stage's failure modes.

  15. Re:A waste of effort by tsotha · · Score: 2

    Why are we doing things like this? They're a waste of time and money, which could be spent on things like curing HIV and cancer, ending world hunger, or finding a solution to global warming.

    What do you mean "we"? We are not doing things like this. A communications company in Thailand is doing this because it has the odd idea that people in Thailand deserve to have a modern communications infrastructure and will be willing to support it financially.

  16. Crush honeycomb leg used in the Apollo LM by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 4, Informative

    For interest's sake, the idea of a crushable hhoneycomb landing leg arrangement was used for the Apollo Lumar Modules. It was very light as it only needed to be used once, unlike a hydraulic or spring system. Have a look at page 6 of the LM Structures document at http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a...