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World's Longest, Deepest Rail Tunnel Opens In Switzerland (latimes.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Los Angeles Times: More than 2,200 years after the commander from the ancient North African civilization of Carthage led his army of elephants and troops over Europe's highest mountain chain, the Swiss have completed another gargantuan task: burrowing the world's longest railway tunnel under the Swiss Alps to improve European trade and travel. European dignitaries on Wednesday inaugurated the 35.4-mile Gotthard Railway Tunnel, a major engineering achievement deep under the Alps' snow-capped peaks. It took 17 years to build at a cost of 12.2 billion Swiss francs ($12 billion) -- but workers kept to a key Swiss tradition and brought the massive project in on time and on budget. It also bores deeper than any other tunnel, running about 1.4 miles underground at its maximum depth. The thoroughfare aims to cut travel times, ease roadway traffic and reduce the air pollution spewed from trucks traveling between Europe's north and south. Set to open for commercial service in December, the two-way tunnel can handle up to 260 freight trains and 65 passenger trains per day.

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  1. "Longest, deepest" by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Funny

    Giggity.

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  2. Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lies. All lies. There's no such thing as tunnels. Or Switzerland, for that matter.

    1. Re:Lies by Pahroza · · Score: 3, Informative

      IKEA isn't Swiss.

    2. Re:Lies by Pahroza · · Score: 2

      The number of people who don't is very large. Source: I'm Swiss and have been dealing with that my entire life.

    3. Re:Lies by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Guten tag, mate. At least no one tells you to chuck a couple of Mozartkugel on the barbie.

      Bonzer.

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    4. Re:Lies by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      The number of people who don't is very large. Source: I'm Swiss and have been dealing with that my entire life.

      Meine Frau ist eine Baslerin.

  3. Tunnel Boring Machine by habig · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A few years ago when the TBM knocked through the last bit of rock in this tunnel, this cool video of the event might even have been posted on slashdot (can't remember where I ran across it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  4. Actually the Gotthard Base Tunnel by crunchygranola · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Gotthard Railway Tunnel was built between 1871 and 1882, and was the world's longest rail tunnel at the time.

    This is the Gotthard Base Tunnel (and there is a third tunnel, the Gotthard Road Tunnel).

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    1. Re:Actually the Gotthard Base Tunnel by OpenSourced · · Score: 2

      That Gothard really looks now like a Swiss cheese.

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  5. This is so non-American... by ffkom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... not only because they did it "on budget and in time", which can only mean they didn't go for the cheapest bidder, but also because it's trains going through the tunnel, only!

    Had this been done in proper US-style, that tunnel would have no place for trains, but one lane reserved to military vehicles and the cars of VIP ticket holders, then another lane for ordinary cars, on which a permanent traffic jam would take you 2 hours mininum to pass the tunnel, if only because of the mandatory TSA strip searching before entering.

    1. Re: This is so non-American... by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's pretty big talk for someone that doesn't have a 57-kilometer tunnel.

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    2. Re:This is so non-American... by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Putting cars in there makes the whole project way more challenging. Trains you can supply with electricity to move and their own internal illumination is sufficient. If you put a large number of cars or trucks through there you have to have significantly stronger ventilation systems and you need to illuminate the tunnel to a much greater degree.

      On top of that you need to factor in a much higher risk of crashes and hence fire risk, which means more escape tunnels, fire bunkers, and other systems that would otherwise not be required.

      Add on to that that these tunnels are only 9m in diameter which is not wide enough for anything other than a single lane road. As a comparison the Clem7 tunnel in Brisbane is 12.5m in diameter to accommodate 2 lanes.

  6. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by mark-t · · Score: 3, Informative

    Simply put, freight capacity.

  7. Pollution by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At first I wasn't clear on how the tunnel would reduce pollution. Won't the bad gases just come out of the tunnel? But of course, the idea is the tunnel will shift cargo transport from trucks to trains. Presumably trains produce less pollution. Or at least less trash littering the "pristine Swiss landscape"

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    1. Re:Pollution by viperidaenz · · Score: 2, Informative

      I assume it's also a more direct route, or they wouldn't have gone through a mountain to build it.
      Trains are also much more efficient than trucks.

    2. Re:Pollution by mriya3 · · Score: 2

      Indeed, trains produce less pollution than trucks, as they run on electrical propulsion. Moreover, in Switzerland 56% of the produced energy comes from hydropower plants and 38% from nuclear.

    3. Re:Pollution by mriya3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      ehm... I do live in Switzerland, and 99% of all trains (either passenger or freight) run on electrical power

    4. Re:Pollution by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 2

      According to Wikipedia fully 50% of all rail transport was carried by electric traction world wide. As Europe is dense and highly industrialised I would imagine the figure for European rail to be substantially higher, so "majority" of InterEuro freight being diesel can't be nearly true.

      I can't find any numbers for Europe but again Wikipedia says that electrification in Europe is "widespread". Since freight has to run at higher speeds in Europe (more congested tracks) the added power from electrical drive also helps. And it notes that in countries like Switzerland even electric shunts are common. They're not here in Sweden though. Shunting locomotives are diesel electric here, but those are basically they only diesel electric locomotives in use. The rest is electric, and has been for close to a hundred years.

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    5. Re:Pollution by mriya3 · · Score: 2

      ... one of the most important freight routes is between Genova (Italy) and Rotterdam (Netherlands): according to last year's EU report *1, in Italy 71% of the railroad infrastructure is electrified, in Switzerland it is 100%, in Germany 60%, in Netherlands 76.1%... According to another report *2, in 2009 in Europe "Around 80% of rail traffic is performed with electrified trains.", in a newer report *3 you can also compare the EU situation (p.35- Fig. 29) with USA (p.42 - Fig. 42). *1 http://ec.europa.eu/transport/... *2 http://www.uic.org/com/IMG/pdf... *3 http://www.uic.org/IMG/pdf/iea...

    6. Re:Pollution by jcdr · · Score: 2

      No freight or passenger train, Swiss or foreign, will cross Switzerland on normal operation with a diesel locomotive, granted. There are railway cross-country agreement on this.

      Exchanging locomotive on a station near the border was for a long time a usual process because historically the electrical locomotive was not designed to handle efficiently the different railway electrical standards (different frequency and voltage) used by each countries and the old Gotthard Tunnel needed special strong power electrical locomotives to raise the heavy freight trains to the altitude of the old tubes.

      With the new Gotthard Base Tunnel, modern foreign locomotives that handle multiple railway electrical standards (and have the required ETCS >= 2 signalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ) can pass the new tubes as easy as a normal flat track. This is a massive improvement compared to the actual situation.

  8. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by r1348 · · Score: 2, Informative

    To match the freight and passenger capacity of high-speed trains, you'd need A LOT of flights. None of which will land in a city centre.

  9. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A freight train can carry 10,000 tons, a 747 cargo plane can carry 140.

    You could run 260 trains or 18,000 planes, which is going to be cheaper?

  10. Bizarre opening ceremony... by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Among the performances was a topless dancer wearing giant wings who soared over orange-suited dancers as they crawled on the ground below.

    At another point, humans dressed like bales of hay were seen swaying on a flatbed before running around on the floor.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

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  11. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by mriya3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The fee is actually 40 CHF (~36 euros) for 1-year

  12. Hotter than Hades? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    Wikipedia tells me that temperature increases roughly by 25 degrees C per km of depth so, that would be about 58 degrees C... however apparently the actual temperature at that depth is 46 degrees. So... hellishly hot, but not as hot as expected. What accounts for the difference, is the crust thicker there because of the weight of the alps?

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    1. Re:Hotter than Hades? by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      Ah, I see, the claimed 2.4km depth is the depth below the peak of the of the highest mountain peak the tunnel passes under. OK, now I'm impressed by the fact that the ground temperature increases significantly just by being deep inside a mountain, not deep below sea level as for example in a South African gold mine.

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  13. Maybe not so on budget and on time... by dlenmn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm no expert on the AlpTransits project (which includes the Gotthard Base Tunnel and a number of other new tunnels), but the whole project seems to have been on budget in part because they cut stuff. For example, the Loetschberg Base Tunnel, which is the second longest tunnel in this project, is opened but not complete. They just stopped part way through and declared it good enough (one bore is up and running -- I've been through it -- but the other isn't finished). Or, as wikipedia puts it:

    Due to the soaring costs of the AlpTransit initiative, funds were diverted to the Gotthard Base Tunnel; and the LBT [Loetschberg Base Tunnel] is only half finished.

    Even worse, work on the Zimmerberg Base Tunnel is suspended -- possibly without plans to complete it.

    The whole "on budget and in time" thing doesn't sound so miraculous in context: the Gotthard Base Tunnel is part of a larger project that is neither on time nor on budget. However, the Swiss government sure did a good job spinning it that way.

  14. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by EvilSS · · Score: 2

    Airtrains!*

    *patent pending

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  15. Bizzarre opening ceremony by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    +1 for digging world's most awesome tunnel, ever.
    -1 for coming up with this.

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  16. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why spend all that money for a tunnel when you can simply fly over the mountains?

    One primary use for the tunnel is to keep freight off the autobahn, but because it's a base tunnel, running straight under the Alps, it will allow bullet passenger trains to rip right through from Germany to Italy in half an hour. The old Gotthard Tunnel was the big engineering accomplishment of a century ago, punching through a high pass over the Alps, but it still required that trains spiral up into the mountains to the tunnel entrance, and then spiral down into the valley on the other side.

    'Base tunnels' of this type are being built to replace the other long-distance tunnels through high Alpine passes. It will mean that European rail will go from being way ahead of American rail to being ludicrously far ahead of American rail.

  17. Trains are incredibly efficient by dlenmn · · Score: 2

    Even if these were diesel trains (they're actually electric), there would be a significant reduction in pollution because trains are incredibly efficient and trucks are not. All things being equal, a gallon of diesel fuel will move one ton of cargo over 200 miles on a railroad (or over 400 miles, depending on your reference). Trucks are nowhere close to that efficient.

    It's hard to overstate how efficient trains are at moving cargo; no other land method comes close. (You can only do better on boats/barges.)

  18. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by muecksteiner · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nitpick: in Europe, a typical freight train carries more like 4000 tons, not 10k. 10k trains are the multi-mile thingies you guys run across the Great Plains in the US. Here, we are a bit more limited w/r to train length, and some other factors. Your point is of course still valid, though.

  19. Re:aren't there airports in switzerland? by RivenAleem · · Score: 2

    [Gasps and heavy breathing echo in the chambers of commerce.]

    Merkel: "We now have but one choice."

    [Light appears from Merkel's staff, showing the startled and frightened faces of the EU Councillors.]

    Merkel: "We must face the long dark of Swiss Alps. Be on your guard. There are older and fouler things than Italians, in the deep places of the world."

    Merkel: "Quietly now. It's a 30-minute journey to the other side. Let us hope that our presence may go unnoticed."

    [Time passes. The EU Council enters a great cavern.]

    [Merkel rests her hand upon a rock with a dark, silver veins running through it.]

    Merkel: "The wealth of Switzerland was not in gold or jewels"

    [The Chancellor tilts her staff down towards a clock.]

    Merkel: "but Time."