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True Desktop Class Nvidia GTX 10-Series Cards Coming To Notebooks In Few Months (pcgamer.com)
If you're in the market for a new gaming notebook, you might want to consider waiting a few months. PCGamer blog, citing its sources, report that Nvidia plans to release its new 10-series chips for notebooks. From the report: The kick is, they won't be M versions of desktop GPUs. They will be the same chips used on the desktops, just operating at a lower TDP -- we're told there will be the same number of shader units, etc. We're also told that Nvidia will not go back to producing separate M versions of its desktop GPUs, which is good news for those looking for better gaming performance on the road or in a desktop replacement type notebook.
I always hated that term. Makes it sound like its only good for taking notes when it can in fact do far more.
I am aware of the fact that it's a marketing term coined to avoid getting sued for perpetuating the idea that you can leave the thing on your lap, switched on for days at a time with no adverse health effects.
If I want to play video games, I'll play on my gaming PC.
true laptop class cards coming to desktop. marketing! *jazzhands*
Apple won't be able to put M-version nVidia GPUs in their computers anymore. And with Skylake having less powerful integrated graphics than Haswell, they'll have no choice but to use these new nVidia GPUs for their Macs.
Although I'm sure they'll prove me wrong in a few months.
What I'm really interested in is the future low-cost, sub-USD$100, entry-level, 10-series GPU cards. If they can do it with laptops, surely they can do it for graphic cards too. Would a fanless version be possible, given the area available for a card in a desktop computer?
Who the hell cares if its mobile or not if the core is still significantly underperforming in use? I'll wait for benchmarks (yeah, they can be played, but better than nothing) to see if there's any material difference in performance.
I don't know about the rest of you, but gaming in my home office raises the temperature of the room. I can't imagine what that would do in a laptop with significantly smaller operating space. My guess is that the 'desktop class' chip would have to be heavily crippled to perform without melting the bottom of the laptop off.
Bye!
Why are they making and selling chips that gobble down the juice and roast the insides of desktop systems?
I mean, really? I can see liquidating old stock, but if the new chips and designs are just as powerful for less juice, why not incorporate across the whole line?
Considering that AMD has demoed 40W chips more powerful than the GTX 950, and is going to price them presumably better, I'd wait for AMD.
For those not paying attention, the only market segment in Windows computers that's selling well right now are gaming laptops and desktops.
The fact is, the video game industry is one that eclipses Hollywood in dollars spent. It's here to stay and increasingly, it's becoming a mainstream pastime for the general public. Obviously, the dedicated consoles are a big piece of the gaming pie (and heck, that's been true since the days of the Atari 2600). But there's so much more you can do with a keyboard and a mouse, coupled to a system with a lot of memory and disk storage space.
In recent years though, a laptop/notebook/ultrabook/whatever meant you had sub-standard 3D graphics capabilities. Even the most expensive discreet graphics added to your laptop put you in the category of, "Yes... you can now actually PLAY the new game titles, but only with reduced detail levels and other compromises, or frame rates will really suffer." That's not exactly compelling.
The new chips from both nVidia and ATI are basically 2 generations ahead of what's been available. You're getting a big performance leap AND better pricing. I'm thinking this is exactly what Apple needs to use to get its product line back up to par (since it uses mobile GPUs even in its iMac desktops), and what will stimulate the PC industry as a whole.
There's no reason to have to settle for console gaming if this hurdle is taken out of the way.
I would be very happy if these would end up in the next iteration of the MacBook Pro. Having the Oculus Rift work on an Apple machine (when Oculus resumes its work on an OS X and releases an SDK) would spare me the extra cost of buying a PC. I hope to set up a VR rig within 12 months and my 2011 MacBook Pro is eligible for replacement; I hope to combine these two.
Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.
same number of shader units
good news for those looking for deep learning on the road
CPUs and GPUs are binned. They test each one which comes out of manufacturing. The ones which by pure luck (fewer impurities, cleaner etchings) can operate at a lower voltage (and thus draw less power) get binned as laptop parts. The rest of them become desktop parts.
It's not like they can manufacture these lower power consumption chips at will. The manufacturing process dictates that by pure change x% will be suitable for laptop use, leaving 100-x% for desktop use.
Yields. Only the best chips will run at say, 0.7 volts vs 0.9.
Back when laptops were bricks and battery life was counted in minutes, not hours.
Pascal must run A LOT cooler/lower power than Maxwell to not need a special M variant, or they're underclocking it to hell.
Overpriced Thunderbolt? You mean like the USB-C 3.1 ports that include Thunderbolt 3 and are coming in many of the current laptops now? You are behind the times already. There will soon be TB3 docking stations with PCIe graphics card slots, if there isn't already.
My gaming laptop has a USB-C/TB 3 port on it that I output to a dock that handles the dual monitor setup (2x 24" 1920x1200 monitors through HDMI and MiniDP) along with all my connector needs except power, as the laptop doesn't allow charging through USB-C
http://www.amazon.com/ZenBook-...
Plugged into
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Doc...
A quick search turned up this:
http://www.amazon.com/Magma-Ex...
Which handles the TB3 - PCIe connections to allow an external video card setup, but still WAY too pricey, as I could buy a whole desktop PC for that price.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Well, it looks like I was drawn in by the heading of that last link, it is acutally a TB2 to PCIe dock, so would need a $100 adapter to connect to a laptop with USB-C.
http://www.amazon.com/Magma-Ex...
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?