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Volkswagen Bets Big On Electric Cars, Plans 30 Models By 2025 (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader writes: German automaker Volkswagen plans to deliver 30 electric plug-in models by 2025. The new plan comes in the wake of a devastating emissions scandal that cast doubt on the future of its once-beloved diesel cars. It also exposes the immense challenges that the company will face internally. Volkswagen CEO Matthias Mueller suggested that Volkswagen Group, whose brands include Audi and Porsche, will "significantly" reduce the number of models it makes and will slash almost $9 billion in spending annually to bolster the bottom line.

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  1. Saab story by turkeydance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    before 2025

  2. Re:For those who still want diesel by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's not the only problem. Not all of us live in houses with garages. I live in an apartment complex with assigned parking. If I were to get an electric vehicle I have no clue how the hell I'd charge it.

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I think electric vehicles are the future and I'd love to be able to drive a plug-in hybrid, but at present I have absolutely no way to charge it and that needs to change before electric cars can roll out to the entire population.

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  3. Re:For those who still want diesel by twotacocombo · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's not the only problem.

    Not to mention places like Los Angeles, where our infrastructure is shit, power rates keep climbing, and we have multiple brown/blackouts during the summer months just from A/C usage alone. They're talking up to two weeks of blackouts this summer due to the Aliso Canyon fiasco. Just what we all need, electric cars that we can't charge because the power's out, and can't afford to charge because we've already got second mortgages just to keep the house cool when it's 110 outside. Electric cars are a great idea, but some places just aren't prepared for a massive influx of them.

  4. Re:For those who still want diesel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If your electric grid has regular blackouts, electric cars are the least of your problems. Sounds like a third-world problem to me.

    Signed,
    a Canadian.

  5. Headline from 2026 by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Volkswagen has admitted cheating on it's emissions tests. When the vehicles are stationary and the steering wheel is not being moved, power from the battery is applied directly to the wheels. In normal driving, however, 80% of the power is diverted to a Power-to-Gas system, which is then dumped directly into the atmosphere for no apparent reason whatsoever.

  6. You can choose where to live by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not to mention places like Los Angeles, where our infrastructure is shit,

    Hey if you choose to live somewhere where the power infrastructure sucks that's on you. LA is a fine place but most of the US doesn't have much difficulty getting power reliably. If it's a big problem for you there are lots of other places in the US where you can live a very happy life.

    Just what we all need, electric cars that we can't charge because the power's out, and can't afford to charge because we've already got second mortgages just to keep the house cool when it's 110 outside.

    If the power is out charging your car is probably the least of your problems. Get a backup generator and charge your car that way if it's such a concern to you. Works fine and if it's big enough you can power your house at the same time.

    Electric cars are a great idea, but some places just aren't prepared for a massive influx of them.

    There isn't going to be a massive influx of them. It's going to take many years for them to gain enough market share to really cause heartburn on the grid. Plenty of time to upgrade the grid. Plus you'll see lots of hybrids before you see lots of pure electrics most likely.

  7. Little tiny generator by ka9dgx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet there'll be a little tiny box in each one, (like the one Nikola Tesla built) which generates enormous useful energy, from no apparent source... meanwhile causing untold pollution in nearby parallel universes.

  8. Re: For those who still want diesel by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    They'll sneak little tiny diesel generators in all of them that pollute 10 times more than a regular diesel engine.

    Diesels used as generators can generate less pollution, because they can run at an optimal constant speed.

  9. Re:For those who still want diesel by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're talking up to two weeks of blackouts this summer due to the Aliso Canyon fiasco.

    Obvious solution: Charge your car at night, when the ACs are mostly off, and there is plenty of cheap base load power.

    I have an electric car, and it is preprogrammed to start charging at 2am.

  10. Re:Well that solves one problem by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

    TFA, as usual, is short on details but this may give a hint:
    "The bet on fully electric vehicles will be paired with an investment in battery technology,"
    (They have also announced that they are building their own battery "Gigafactory".)
    A "fully electric" vehicle has no ICE engine. A hybrid has ICE and electric.
    BEV is Battery Electric Vehicle (no ICE).
    Plug-in Hybrid is an ICE engine hybrid electric that usually has a small battery which you can plug in to charge.
    It will be interesting to see what they come up with. They pretty much single-handedly killed the diesel car and now they are scrambling to put something together so they can regain some green street cred.
    I wish them luck.

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  11. Re:Well that solves one problem by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just... wrong.
    Even if you get all of your electricity from dirty coal (like Colorado), it is still cleaner to drive an electric vehicle than a 35 mpg gas car because coal fired power plants are much more efficient than gas or diesel car engines and electric cars are much more efficient in using that electricity.
    Plus, as we retire dirty coal plants, electric cars get even cleaner.
    http://www.ucsusa.org/clean-ve...

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  12. Re: For those who still want diesel by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're standing in the way of blind rage, sir.

  13. Re:Check out the eGolf. Then consider. by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

    The IMF is a reputable organization.
    http://www.imf.org/external/pu...
    You, on the other hand, are just some random person on the internet.

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  14. innovation by Iamthecheese · · Score: 3, Informative

    In absolute terms Volkswagen is outspending everyone else for research and development. And they have been high on the list for decades. I, for one, am hoping all that work finally pays off big.

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