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Thanks To Apple's Influence, You're Not Getting A Rifle Emoji (buzzfeed.com)

Charlie Warzel, reporting for BuzzFeed News: Unicode, the technical organization in charge of selecting and overseeing emojis, debated and ultimately decided to remove a rifle from its list of new emoji candidates in 2016, according to multiple persons who attended its quarterly meeting last May. The decision was led and championed by one of tech's biggest companies: Apple. Apple is one of Unicode's largest member companies and not only has voting rights, but also holds considerable influence. Millions of people use emojis on Apple's software platforms. According to sources in the room, Apple started the discussion to remove the rifle emoji, which had already passed into the encoding process for the Unicode 9.0 release this June. Apple told the consortium it would not support a rifle on its platforms and asked for it not to be made into an emoji. "I heard Apple speak up about it and also Microsoft," one member present at the discussions told BuzzFeed News.

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  1. Re:frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It actually makes sense not to have such an emoji, because it creates a dilemma whether someone using such an emoji in a message is making a threat, and whether the company, becoming aware of such a threat, has a duty to do something about it.

    Obesity kills far more humans than "rifles" ever will, and yet you see no artists blocking food emojis, and no companies worrying about what do to when someone posts a cake emoji.

    Gotta love the logic surrounding this bullshit argument.

  2. Re:frist post by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In simpler terms: Apple saved us a bunch of bullshit like a student being expelled over a rifle emoji.

    Here's a fun fact about emoji: Emoji are artistically re-rendered usually per the brand of the device, resulting in different interpretations of how they're used vs. how they're intended. This has already landed people in hot water. There's an emoji of a someone laughing so hard they're in tears. There are quite a few people out there that see it as someone hysterically crying. On their device it may actually appear that way because of how the artist designed it. Imagine that little misinterpretation happening during a comment made about the recent shooting in Orlando!

    All I'm going to say is: Thank you, Apple.

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  3. When codepoints are outlawed... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...only outlaws will have codepoints.

    Okay, and anybody who understands how to look things up in a character set.

  4. Isn't there already a gun emoji? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's already a gun emoji. Windows sidesteps the issue a bit by displaying it a cartoon raygun:

    http://emojipedia.org/microsof...

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    1. Re:Isn't there already a gun emoji? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right. No assault emojis.

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  5. Re:frist post by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It actually makes sense not to have such an emoji, because it creates a dilemma whether someone using such an emoji in a message is making a threat, and whether the company, becoming aware of such a threat, has a duty to do something about it.

    Obesity kills far more humans than "rifles" ever will, and yet you see no artists blocking food emojis, and no companies worrying about what do to when someone posts a cake emoji.

    Gotta love the logic surrounding this bullshit argument.

    Cakes aren't designed with the express purpose of killing things.

    Bullshit argument indeed.

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  6. Re:frist post by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but a rifle pic could easily be seen as one, depending on the context

    So, if I were to use a rifle emoji on /., you'd feel threatened? Really?

    Or perhaps you'd only feel threatened if the guy in the next cubicle used one in an email? Seriously, I hope you know the guy in the next cubby well enough to know whether he'd want to shoot you. And if he did (want to shoot you), I'd hope he'd use a real gun rather than an emoji....

    C'mon, people, when you start finding a few characters in an email threatening, there's a problem. And the problem isn't the arrangement of the characters....

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  7. Re:frist post by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It actually makes sense not to have such an emoji, because it creates a dilemma whether someone using such an emoji in a message is making a threat, and whether the company, becoming aware of such a threat, has a duty to do something about it.

    Obesity kills far more humans than "rifles" ever will, and yet you see no artists blocking food emojis, and no companies worrying about what do to when someone posts a cake emoji.

    Gotta love the logic surrounding this bullshit argument.

    Boobs have never killed anybody, all that boobs have ever done is feed babies and put smiles on the lips of men all over the planet, the bigger and bouncier the boobs the bigger the smile. I say all of us slashdotters should unite and lobby Unicode for a set of boobs emojis in all cup-sizes...

  8. Re:frist post by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, I can definitely see how a rifle emoji would be threatening, but a dagger, crossed swords, skull and crossbones, a bomb , or even a pistol clearly aren't.

    There's already a pistol emoji. There's no reason not to add a rifle emoji for completeness sake.

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  9. Re:frist post by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last time I trusted a promise of cake, I got burned alive.

  10. Re:frist post by unrtst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cakes aren't designed with the express purpose of killing things.

    Neither are emoji's.
    How many apps/games/etc are there where guns, violence, etc are possible, if not the goal?

    "The usual road to (digital) slavery is that first they take away your gun (emoji's), then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it." -- James A. Donald

  11. Re:frist post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this is the US, where guns are easy and cheap to get, and people get routinely shot over the dumbest shit

    Your argument is invalid. There is no linkage between email and guns in the US. And while it may be true that people get "routinely shot" (I don't know what you mean by that), this is not because guns are "cheap and easy to get". The US has more guns now than ever before, yet violent crime has been decreasing over the past decades. Look, here's some graphs.

    If the simple availability of legal guns really caused violence, then now that we have more guns than ever before, we ought to have more violence than ever before. Yet we don't.

    In fact, one could make an argument that the increase in the number of guns reduced the violence in the US. I don't make that argument because correlation does not prove causation. However, you are making a causation claim and there isn't even a correlation to back you up.

    I invite you to read the book The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy which explores why different countries have different amounts of violence. Spoiler: it's more cultural factors than anything else.

  12. Re:frist post by geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In most countries, you'd be right to heap scorn on anyone feeling threatened by an emoji or an email.

    But this is the US, where guns are easy and cheap to get, and people get routinely shot over the dumbest shit. Dude might be a bit of scaredy cat, but he's certainly not insane.

    Gun violence is at an all time low
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fac...
    http://www.cnsnews.com/comment...

    I know, pesky facts. Who cares about'em

  13. Re:frist post by blackomegax · · Score: 3, Informative

    You know the guards were armed, right? Fat lot of good that did.

  14. Re:frist post by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gun violence is at an all time low

    Yeah...for the US. Let me put it this way: You might have cut off the crusts, but you're still eating a shit sandwich.

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  15. Re:frist post by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gun violence is at an all time low.

    Compared to the rest of the developed world, gun violence in the USA is still at appalling levels.

  16. Re:frist post by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gun violence is at an all time low

    But still more than other developed countries by a lot. I mean a WHOLE lot.

    And mass shootings in the US are at an all-time high. No matter how you cut it, we are one violent and fucked up culture that loves guns.

    https://docs.google.com/spread...

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  17. details by hsthompson69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) it's a bipod, not a tripod
    2) a scope is a perfectly reasonable attachment for any 5.56/.223 rifle - effective range can go out to 100 to 200m, and a good scope is helpful at those ranges
    3) whether or not it uses a drum magazine, or a simple double stack magazine, the weapon still functions like any other semi-automatic rifle -> one trigger pull, one shot.

    Now, you can choose to define an "assault weapon" as something black and scary looking, but nothing you've pointed out is any different than the much kinder, gentler looking mini 14 (http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14/images/line-top.jpg). During the san bernardino terrorist attack, you can see LEOs using it: http://media.gettyimages.com/p... - it's functionally identical to the AR15 style weapons the terrorists were using, chambering the same round, firing at the same rate.

    A common sense definition of an "assault weapon" is a fully automatic (not semi-automatic) belt fed machine gun...something like the m60 (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/5/58/M60.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20070330224515)

    But you really weren't looking for the truth, now were you? :)

  18. Re:frist post by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now explain how those "assault rifles" are evil, but the KelTec SU-16CA is not. The SU-16CA is 100% compliant with those "assault weapons" lists, but it:

    - Uses the same magazines (STANAG)

    - Uses the same caliber and rounds

    - Same reload operation/time

    - Same operation (semi-automatic)

    - Same barrel length (16")

    - Same terminal velocity and accuracy

    The AR-15 is banned by most "assault weapons" lists, but the SU-16CA passes with flying colors. The reality is that the list is simply made up from what some people consider "scary". It's cosmetic fluff worse than the TSA kabuki theater of security.

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  19. Re: frist post by drfred79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just some friendly advice. Every male in Switzerland has to perform military service and so gun ownership is big. Yet you just said their homicide rate by firearms was low. You're making the argument it's culture not quantity of firearms.