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High IQ Countries Have Less Software Piracy, Research Finds (torrentfreak.com)

Ernesto Van der Sar, writing for TorrentFreak (edited and condensed): There are hundreds of reasons why people may turn to piracy. A financial motive is often mentioned, as well as lacking legal alternatives. A new study from a group of researchers now suggests that national intelligence can also be added to the list. In a rather straightforward analysis, the research examined the link between national IQ scores and local software piracy rates -- from data provided by the Business Software Alliance. They concluded that there's a trend indicating that countries with a higher IQ have lower software piracy rates.

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  1. Meaningless by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    IQ scores are more or less meaningless in this context. A nation does not have an "IQ".

    In this context, at best it is a measure of how well the country's culture conditions people to taking standardized tests.

    1. Re:Meaningless by chispito · · Score: 2

      IQ scores are more or less meaningless in this context. A nation does not have an "IQ".

      In this context, at best it is a measure of how well the country's culture conditions people to taking standardized tests.

      I'm right there with you.

      I suspect that here on Slashdot there will be many posts trying to correlate the posters' own IQ and their views on intellectual property.

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    2. Re:Meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In this instance (if the correlation is legit), it's more likely that it stems from a better educated population being able to afford to buy software, as opposed to having to illegally copy it.

    3. Re:Meaningless by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Also wealth, education levels, reproductive rates, lower crime in general, etc. Correlation is not causation, but man does it make for some headlines!

    4. Re:Meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A nation does not have an "IQ"

      There *are* nations other than the US, ya know?

    5. Re:Meaningless by r1348 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In other news: "IQ tests actually measure wealth"

    6. Re:Meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's much wiser to pirate

      We got burnt by this crap just last weekend for my kid's birthday party. My ex-wife bought a movie online the morning before the party instead of trorrenting it the night before like I told her to. The projector didn't support the DRM.

      Sorry kids, no movie for you even though we paid for it legally.

    7. Re: Meaningless by Archtech · · Score: 2

      Murder rates and ice-cream sales are highly correlated too.

      Yes indeed; both go up the hotter it gets.

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    8. Re:Meaningless by buchner.johannes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Correlation is not causation, therefore there are many possible explanation. Wealth correlates with IQ (better education but also nutrition), and wealth probably correlates with piracy. Out comes a correlation of IQ and piracy.

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    9. Re:Meaningless by skids · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My money would be on a better educated population realizing that a larger proportion of available software is utter crap, and not wanting it in the first place.

    10. Re:Meaningless by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      If the past is anything to go by there'll be plenty of people with scores of 92 who are unrecognised geniuses & special snowflakes.

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    11. Re:Meaningless by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Look at the position of China. Higher IQ than the US, but also a very high piracy rate.

      It's obvious what this graph is actually showing. In general, more affluent countries have both better education and more money to spend on software. The exception is countries like China where they have a very efficient public school system but also low wages.

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    12. Re:Meaningless by Prof+G · · Score: 4, Informative

      And any data provided by the BSA is pure bunk. Hence, the study is meaningless for anything other than BSA marketing.

    13. Re:Meaningless by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Funny

      How does one measure "wisdom" objectively?

      It's usually on the player's character sheet, sandwiched between Intelligence and Charisma.

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    14. Re:Meaningless by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 2

      Reproductive rates are correlated with piracy??? Whoa, now that's a headline! People who pirate software are more fertile!

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    15. Re:Meaningless by wronkiew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IQ is correlated with education for several valid reasons. IQ is predictive of income, heritable, and correlated with smaller family size. So you might find that the educational opportunities parents are able to provide correlates with the IQ of their children. Especially so when you consider local control and funding of education and the regional disparities in IQ. Also IQ is predictive of educational attainment. Starting in elementary school students are sorted by academic ability and achievement. Those with IQ deficiencies tend to be held back and/or receive remedial instruction. Those with high and exceptional IQ are given accelerated coursework, advanced placement, and they stay in school for more years. None of this means that education improves IQ, though I agree some children score lower because of poor preparation and imperfect tests.

    16. Re:Meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      from a better educated population being able to afford to buy software, as opposed to having to illegally copy it.

      Or that their intelligence leads them to understand that not compensating someone for the work they did is not a moral thing to do.

      But please, go ahead and make excuses for why stealing is acceptable.

      Ok. All the software I pirate is over 20 years old. A lot of it I bought when it came out 20 years ago, and I've just misplaced the media for it. Other times I bought the competitor. In any case the software is no longer commercially relevant, or available except from abandonware rakers. Whether I buy abandonware from rakers with dubious claims of ownership, or get it from free abandonware, it really makes no difference to the authors of that software, they either made it off the back of their software 20 years ago, or didn't. Just as the framers of the constitution, I don't believe copyright should last over 20 years, there's no way to interpret that as a reasonable incentive, there is no way to interpret that as anything but racketeering. And when you see it's nobody but rakers selling 20 year old software, that evidence backs up my claim. Software is covered by patents; patents expire after 20 years; if software is covered by patents, and is therefore considered an invention, then the rights to it should cede after 20 years, as they do with software patents and all other patents (barring few exceptions).

      Preserving cultural heritage is important, and software is now part of that heritage. If not for abandonware "piracy" that culture will certainly be destroyed in 140 years when the copyright finally expires on it (assuming no more extensions, and why assume that). Due to the maleability of digital media, and the lack of durability that affords, it is quite likely that we would lose far more culture, not just software, due to it only existing in perishable digital form, and the originator not taking adequate care after it loses commercial value in 12 to 36 months. It's already the case that large amounts of source code that authors wanted to release to the public domain has been lost due to insufficient care for the original media. We can't do anything about that, but we can at least do our part to preserve the media that was distributed, because if we don't, we lose all copies of it.

      Given that most media, and especially software has a shelf life of 36-48 months max, before it is abandoned or sold on to rakers (or the rakers just make up a fake contract of sale, as they more often than not do); it is absolutely absurd to have copyrights of 140 years+.

      I don't steal new media, and I'm opposed to that. But I'm also opposed to copyright absolutism. Media is not like physical content; it is ideas and shared experience, and it shouldn't belong solely to the originator, as once it is consumed, it becomes part of all of us like a virus.

      Consider a muffin. If you go to a cafe and steal a muffin; that is wrong. If you go to a cafe and buy a muffin, and decide it was delicious, it's not wrong to go home and make your own muffin just the same.

      I reject your intellectual totalitarianism of the originator. The originator needs some rights, but so does everyone else, we share this planet, and it is not right if rakers can just buy up all the IP until the rest of us are not allowed to think. Fuck that.

  2. High IQ People.. by jimtheowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... are more likely to use open source software.

    1. Re:High IQ People.. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Came here to say this, it makes perfect sense. It's people who don't know what they're doing who have to pirate Office or Windows because they don't know that there are better options or have trouble learning to use different software.

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    2. Re:High IQ People.. by jimtheowl · · Score: 3, Informative

      First, lets keep in mind that this is 'research' by a consortium with a vested interest. Second, that by using the words "shitty countries pirate software more than rich countries" you pretty much established that your horse has wandered away from any moral high grounds.

      I'm not saying that all people with high IQ will automatically use open source software, not even that the majority of people that have high IQs will use open source software. Just that it is more likely to happen if they have an high IQ.

    3. Re:High IQ People.. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Just being a couple hundred dollars less is better! And in the context of piracy, that's the most relevant factor.

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  3. High IQ = Less Piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gee, considering the source, this couldn't be clumsy propaganda, could it?

  4. Quoting Nassim Taleb by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the New Year's resolution he listed was, "Do not read the latest breakthrough experiment in psychology about, say, the effect of taking cold showers on grammatical ability. Better even read nothing about these 'experiments.'"

  5. Ice cream causes rape rapes by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every summer ice cream sales go up. Every summer reported numbers of rapes go up.

    Therefore ice cream must cause rape.

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  6. Didn't correlate with education? by Alok · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > the researchers carried out robustness tests with various variables including the strength of IP enforcement, political factors, and economic development.

    So they did take into account some factors like economic development, which makes this more interesting. However, why not analyze w.r.t. to the education levels of the area as well, since that would also affect the region's 'collective IQ' and probably indicate how many people are too poor to afford education, not to mention buying software. I searched the paper and 'education' as a search term only appeared twice, both times in references (so, its never mentioned in the actual text).

    The researchers probably didn't consider the prevailing views of property rights or agreement with international treaties either. In some countries, its just more culturally acceptable to share software which makes it easier to average people to do so without feeling guilty. Other countries might have low income groups that are forced to buy licenses because their leadership got some incentives for IP treaties and are eager to show their enforcement to attract more FDI. Also, often countries with limited software exposure don't even know about good alternatives so its basically, either pirate or buy what everyone else uses.

  7. Re:Just got accepted into MENSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    congratulations on being diagnosed mediocre

  8. Re:Just got accepted into MENSA by burni2 · · Score: 2

    yeah, MENSA: Or the intellectual equivilant of comparing penis sizes and determining the value of a person based on these factors.

    Go to the meetings, you will see what I'm trying to say. Haven't seen so many dickheads in my life, and the women also had "dicks".

  9. Classic example of incompetent research by golodh · · Score: 3, Informative
    Go ahead, have a look at the underlying paper: https://torrentfreak.com/image...

    It's a classic example of methodological incompetence. Got your popcorn? Let's start the show.

    Their dependent variable is piracy rates (between 0 and 100) as published by the BSA. Not one word about measurement uncertainty in those data. Remember how the MPAA and the BSA used to estimate sales losses due to piracy? That's right: list_price x (penetration_fraction x population of PC's - license sold). I kid you not. And they calmly rely on piracy data from those sources.

    Then their explanatory variable: the so-called IQ measure. They cite the "seminal" work of Lyn,R. VanHaanen, T ()

    Unfortunately for the authors of the latest "correlation paper", the work of Lyn and VanHaanen is anything but uncontroversial. I quote from one of the Lyn and VanHaanenpapers:

    First, we believe that these estab- lish beyond reasonable doubt the validity of our national IQ. This was initially disputed by a number of critics. For in- stance, Ervik (2003, pp. 405â"6) asked âoeare people in rich countries smarter than those in poorer countries?â and con- cluded that âoethe authors fail to present convincing evidence and appear to jump to conclusions.â Nechyba (2004, p. 1178) wrote of the âoerelatively weak statistical evidence and dubious presumptions.â Barnett and Williams (2004, p.) rejected our national IQ as âoevirtually meaninglessâ; Volken (2003, p. 411) described them as âoehighly deficientâ; and Hunt and Sternberg (2006, pp. 133, 136) rejected them as âoetechnically inadequate⦠and meaninglessâ. The answer to these criticisms is that our national IQs are validated by their high correlations with scores in tests of mathematics, science and reading, as shown in Table 1, and also with the numerous other economic and social phenom- ena documented in subsequent tables. These high correla- tions would not be present if our national IQs were meaningless.

    Gettit? The fact that there are high correlations "proves" the validity of their inference that there are meaningful relationships. Did they go to Trump University or what?

    In this vein I especially like the high correlation (see http://www.tylervigen.com/spur... ) between per-capita cheese consumption and people who died by becoming entangled in their bedsheets.

    I wonder if the authors thought to control for that.

    As far as serious research is concerned, this is the end of the line, but lets go on and have a look at their model, shall we?

    They model the value of a fraction through a straightforward regression model: SP_i = \alpha + \beta IQ_i + \lambda X_i + \epsilon_i

    Oops, and there we have the little matter of using straightforward regression to model a fraaaaction, instead of something like logistic regression. For those who don't immediately spot the problem, see e.g. here: http://www.theanalysisfactor.c...

    Ordinary linear models are simply unsuitable to model fractions. A point that's common knowledge with statisticians, but one that's apparently lost on the authors (and the authors on which they base their work).

    Right, lets continue and look at the graph they show with their regression line. Each country counts as one (China has the same weight as the e.g. Senegal and the US has the same weight as the Comores. Look ma, no weights! Sounds good eh? When you look at their graph, China shows up as one serious outlier with an "IQ" score of about 110 and a "piracy" score of about 80%. Only 1 bln people up there. Close by, in the bottom-right corner of their graph is the good ole US of A, weighing in at about 270 mln people, with almost the same score

  10. This study funded by the MPAA by jimbob6 · · Score: 2

    There is nothing even remotely scientific about this.
    Firstly the IQ test was originally developed by a French doctor in the late 1800's as a way of diagnosing mental retardation. It was never meant to be an intelligence test. It's a stupidity test.
    Secondly for an IQ test to have any meaning it has to be conducted in a way that is culturally relevant to the place your doing the testing. So comparing IQ from people of 2 different cultures doesn't tell you a whole lot because the people crafting the test are going to design it in such a way to produce the bell curve for a culture that you would expect from standard distribution.
    Thirdly this is just obvious bullshit on its face and can be torn apart with the most basic critical thinking. Like the fact that China is one of the biggest piracy hubs and there supposedly a high IQ country.
    Or the fact that its generally more intellectually challenging to pirate something that it is to just go to a store and buy it.
    I'd be willing to bet that this is a PR artifact funded by some lobby if the study even exists.
    You can file this right along side the study "Scientists find correlation between penis size and paying your taxes on time."

  11. Normal by denisbergeron · · Score: 2

    People with high IQ will use Linux and doesn't need piracy!

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