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DNC Hacker Releases Clinton Foundation Documents (washingtonexaminer.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Following a report that Russian hackers penetrated the DNC's database, a hacker, who identifies himself as "Guccifer 2.0" after a popular Romanian hacker who hacked various American political figures, most notably Hillary Clinton and her private server, has published documents on Tuesday that he says came from the party's digital files. The documents detail Clinton's weaknesses as a candidate, and include a collection of negative press clips about the Clinton Foundation and a list of defenses against attacks on her private email use. Washington Examiner reports: "Another document, titled '2016 Democrats Positions Cheat Sheet,' listed major policy issues and indicated where Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Martin O'Malley, Jim Webb, Lincoln Chaffee, Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden -- all former or possible rivals for the Democratic nomination -- stood on each issue." The documents contain information ranging from how the Clinton Foundation and its allies should respond to criticisms of the Clinton Foundation's revenue sources to how Chelsea Clinton wasn't able to answer questions about Clinton Foundation donations and other instances in which Bill Clinton was called a "sexual predator" for his past indiscretions. Even though the cybersecurity breach was blamed on the Russian government, the Kremlin has denied any involvement. The DNC also has yet to confirm or deny the authenticity of the leaked documents.

156 comments

  1. It was probably.... by birukun · · Score: 0

    Some bored dude/dudette from Russia that was going to lose a bet if they did not hack the DNC or RNC site.

    Is World War 3 going to be started because Jimmy launched a model rocket in his backyard? Sure it landed in the middle of the Kremlin or on the White House lawn, but lets not jump to costly conclusions.

    Reeks of lone wolf like Guccifer 1.0 but I guess we will see.

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    1. Re:It was probably.... by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is it really hacking when the password is "Trumpsucks"?

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    2. Re:It was probably.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And you reek of someone reading off talking points trying just a little too hard to act disinterested. Yet you are completely misinformed because of your "what difference does it make now" bullshit. Gee, who else does that sound like.

  2. Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by kasper37 · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Informative

      There is some excellent analysis and commentary here, focusing on the metadata and and how it exposes the political/financial connections.... I *highly* recommend you scroll down and go thru the comments there, keeping in mind the Clinton foundation was accepting multi-million dollar gifts from mideastern countries while she was arranging arms deals as Secretary of State. BTW the site I linked is starting to remind me more and more of the old Groklaw.

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    2. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by plopez · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I often think of the foreign emoluments clause of the US Constitution. If a corporation is controlled by the leadership of a foreign country and a gift is accepted, or campaign contribution, is that a violation?

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    3. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by ITRambo · · Score: 0

      I hope not. Bill Clinton's first campaign for President, while he was still governor, was partially funded by the Chinese government, or so some close to his campaign said years ago. I don't think anyone really cares who gives candidates money. What the person that gets the money does after being elected si what matters. Bill Clinton never raised a stink about the Chinese hacking into our national labs computers, stealing state secrets. That's where the outrage should have been directed. I suspect that Hillary, if elected, is equally bought and paid for.

    4. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by sabbede · · Score: 1
      He did have to return a rather large sum of money that turned out to have come from an active duty Chinese Colonel. I think it was $300,000 in his second campaign, but it may have "only" been $100,000. I forget.

      On a side note, American Colonels don't make that kind of money.

    5. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes it is.

    6. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I don't know. That Sanders fellow seems to have done all right.

    7. Re: Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then, that eliminates any American corporation, from giving to either campaign. Even, the telcos are foreign controlled. And where are the gambling houses making their monies?
      But, the bigger question. Why would guchifier want to have a weak candidate in the American election? Oh, or better yet, has he tried to find the missing emails yet, you know the ones from the white house in 2000 to 2008? Going up to our involvement in wars of convenience? No, like assange, it seems as if in the pay of someone who involved in deciding our election. So which stooge will you want? One who sounds like a Hitler, or one who will go along with a more peaceful agenda? Should the Russian, or the Chinese, or the Arabs rule America? I vote for Americans rule America.

    8. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >On a side note, American Colonels don't make that kind of money.

      They surely do. you forgot their consulting/advising job rewards they get after retiring with their ludicrous military pension.

    9. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by plopez · · Score: 1

      The foreign emoluments clause only applies at the Federal level.

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    10. Re: Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by plopez · · Score: 1

      "Then, that eliminates any American corporation, from giving to either campaign. Even, the telcos are foreign controlled. And where are the gambling houses making their monies?"

      Close but not on the money. They must be controlled by "foreign princes" which I interpert as:
      1) At lest partly state controlled or
      2) The leaders of a country own a significant stake in it.

      If you had said "Saudi Arabia" I would have said "BINGO!"

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    11. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by plopez · · Score: 1

      After re-reading that it seems ambiguous as a person may need to be in office.

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    12. Re:Torrent Magnet Link to the Documents by CauseBy · · Score: 1

      "the Clinton foundation was accepting multi-million dollar gifts from mideastern countries while she was arranging arms deals as Secretary of State."

      Was it intentional or unintentional that you forgot to mention the two separate oversight processes to approve those contributions in order to avoid conflict of interest? There was one approval process in State and one in the White House.

  3. False flag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In b4 first false flag accusation.

  4. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well done, sir

  5. Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Every time a story is posted about this it includes the claim that Guccifer hacked into Clinton's server.

    IT NEVER HAPPENED!

    Guccifer guessed password reset questions, he lacked the technical skills to actually hack a server.

    Guccifer loved the notoriety of "hacking" famous people, he would never have broken into Clinton's server and then not published anything or told anyone because the emails were "not interesting".

    Guccifer is in now in jail, is it so hard to believe that the hacker who publicly gloated over hacking famous people would now decide to make an unverifiable claim that he hacked the infamous emails of a super famous politician?

    He's just trolling for attention and /. is obliging.

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    1. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Who cares about exactly how? "Guccifer guessed password reset questions" means that he got unauthorized access to the server. Hell, the fact that password reset questions even existed and were enabled in the first place makes it WORSE.

    2. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is how he got into other peoples private accounts because he is not a hacker; most likely he never gained access to Clinton's emails or email server.

    3. Re:Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who cares about exactly how? "Guccifer guessed password reset questions" means that he got unauthorized access to the server. Hell, the fact that password reset questions even existed and were enabled in the first place makes it WORSE.

      He didn't claim to access her webmail.

      He claimed to have actual admin access enabling him to see other people logged into the server, are you aware of many servers where you answer a password reset question to get admin access?

      But don't worry, he actually doesn't claim to have used a password reset. Just look at the original article:

      Asked if he was curious about the address, Lazar merely smiled. Asked if he used the same security question approach to access the Clinton emails, he said no – then described how he allegedly got inside.

      “For example, when Sidney Blumenthal got an email, I checked the email pattern from Hillary Clinton, from Colin Powell from anyone else to find out the originating IP. When they send a letter, the email header is the originating IP usually,” Lazar explained.

      He said, “then I scanned with an IP scanner."

      Lazar emphasized that he used readily available web programs to see if the server was “alive” and which ports were open. Lazar identified programs like netscan, Netmap, Wireshark and Angry IP, though it was not possible to confirm independently which, if any, he used.

      So yeah, this is his entire explanation of how he hacked the system:

      1) Port scan.
      2) ??????
      3) 1337 Hacker!

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    4. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Lazar said he did extensive research on the web and then guessed Blumenthal’s security question. Once inside Blumenthal's account, Lazar said he saw dozens of messages from the Clinton email address."

      He did not get admin access. He got access to an account and leapfrogged from there. Pentesting 101 material. Access is access no matter how it was done. Leave the leetspeak and elitism back in the 90s.

    5. Re:Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 1

      "Lazar said he did extensive research on the web and then guessed Blumenthal’s security question. Once inside Blumenthal's account, Lazar said he saw dozens of messages from the Clinton email address."

      He did not get admin access.

      That he got into Blumenthal's email account, and read emails to/from Clinton in Blumenthal's account, is a well established fact.

      This is about the completely separate claim he hacked into Clinton's emails/server specifically (he was quite vague but seemed to describe seeing admin level stuff).

      He got access to an account and leapfrogged from there. Pentesting 101 material. Access is access no matter how it was done. Leave the leetspeak and elitism back in the 90s.

      I find "leapfrogged" and "pentesting" is a bit vague.

      Hacking a sever involves a hell of a lot more than getting an email from that server and then running a port scanner.

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    6. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time a story is posted about this it includes the claim that Guccifer hacked into Clinton's server.

      IT NEVER HAPPENED!

      You are an outright liar. Period.

    7. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hacking a sever involves a hell of a lot more than getting an email from that server and then running a port scanner.

      Not really. Hillary was running Windows.

    8. Re:Not Again by Budgreen · · Score: 1

      i think he wins troll of the year, since he was happy to be extradited here....

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    9. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. Out of the box there are serious problems and the number increases every bugtraq perusal. Without a team dedicated to security on the server it really is as simple as running some rudimentary scans, cross-referencing CVEs and then popping an appropriate script / command procedure. That the server was likely administered remotely and definitely had no on-site 24/7 presence to monitor only makes the task easier.

      This conversation feels like a handful of ACs talking to someone that does not know how infosec works let alone how attackers operate. Kinda sad for a tech site for someone to put the word pentesting in quotes and call it vague. Welcome to IT quantaman. This is how security is broken on systems incompetently ran from someone's basement.

    10. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 'hacker' could be a charlatan who got lucky. Or, maybe not.

      Imagine you are a world class burglar. You approach the target and find that they have left a key under the door mat, with the security system password written on the key chain that is attached. Easy entry. You could have picked the locks and used gymnastic flips to jump through the laser alarm system. But there was no need. The target was obviously a chump. It doesn't mean you aren't at the top of your game.

    11. Re:Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 1

      The 'hacker' could be a charlatan who got lucky. Or, maybe not.

      Imagine you are a world class burglar. You approach the target and find that they have left a key under the door mat, with the security system password written on the key chain that is attached. Easy entry. You could have picked the locks and used gymnastic flips to jump through the laser alarm system. But there was no need. The target was obviously a chump. It doesn't mean you aren't at the top of your game.

      Imagine you're walking around a city and the cops just caught a pickpocket.

      The pickpocket shouts, "Aha! You know I also broke into the Art Gallery last week! I bypassed their security system and took all the paintings off the wall! But didn't like any so I put them back and left."

      Now, the pickpocket could be telling the truth, that he knows how to bypass security systems and steal valuable art, but instead pays his bills with the proceeds of picking pockets.

      He could be telling the truth, but I'm giving his story about as much credibility as Guccifer's.

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    12. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of smoke and mirror ?

      Why not use the label of an idiot to hide your true nature ?

      Anyway, it could not happen to a nicer person than Hillary. Expect more of this cyber shit to happen.

    13. Re:Not Again by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      So yeah, this is his entire explanation of how he hacked the system:
      1) Port scan.
      2) ??????
      3) 1337 Hacker!

      Sigh, you must be new here, kid. FIRST, Your citation is from Faux News, FAIL. SECOND, you are assuming that the hacker in question did not give more information which the reported failed to comprehend, FAIL. THIRD, you are claiming that someone is not a hacker because they may have been unwilling to give full details of the hack to Fox News, FAIL. Did you just wake up on the fail side of the bed?

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    14. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guccifer is in now in jail, is it so hard to believe that the hacker who publicly gloated over hacking famous people would now decide to make an unverifiable claim that he hacked the infamous emails of a super famous politician?

      He's just trolling for attention and /. is obliging.

      what about the Clinton doodles?

    15. Re:Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So gaining unauthorized access to a system by the path of least resistance doesn't count all of a sudden?

      Why go through a bunch of Mission: Impossible vent crawling bullshit when they leave the front door wide open and the cameras off?

      Fine, he didn't 'hack' the server. But he still likely gained unauthorized access. And you look like an idiot.

    16. Re:Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 1

      So gaining unauthorized access to a system by the path of least resistance doesn't count all of a sudden?

      Whether you call guessing password reset questions "hacking" or not doesn't matter, what he did was fundamentally social engineering and demonstrates none of the level of technical competence he'd require to hack Clinton's server.

      Why go through a bunch of Mission: Impossible vent crawling bullshit when they leave the front door wide open and the cameras off?

      Fine, he didn't 'hack' the server. But he still likely gained unauthorized access. And you look like an idiot.

      Why do you think he gained access? Because he said he did? Then why didn't he brag about it at the time and demonstrate proof like he did for every other hack he did?

      You're putting a lot of faith in the vague unsubstantiated word of an imprisoned social engineer.

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    17. Re: Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like someone doesn't know what the definition of hacking is.

    18. Re: Not Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats running off a huge assumption that her servers were secured in a manner as good as an art gallery. What if they found a way to just pick pocket the key to the back door and walk in. Again not requiring any skills outside their league. We are clearly not saying he hacked the CIA internal mainframe, it was a poorly secured server, which there are tens of thousands connected online right now.

    19. Re:Not Again by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Right. Out of the box there are serious problems and the number increases every bugtraq perusal. Without a team dedicated to security on the server it really is as simple as running some rudimentary scans, cross-referencing CVEs and then popping an appropriate script / command procedure. That the server was likely administered remotely and definitely had no on-site 24/7 presence to monitor only makes the task easier.

      This conversation feels like a handful of ACs talking to someone that does not know how infosec works let alone how attackers operate.

      And what evidence do you have that Guccifer knew how to do any of those things? Just because you have the knowledge so it's easy for you doesn't mean he could do the same. (You're also assuming they never actually installed any updates)

      Kinda sad for a tech site for someone to put the word pentesting in quotes and call it vague. Welcome to IT quantaman. This is how security is broken on systems incompetently ran from someone's basement.

      I put it in quotes because the poster didn't know what the frack they were talking about. They conflated hacking Blumenthal's account with hacking Clinton, like logging into Blumenthal's webmail meant Guccifer had already partially compromised Clinton's server.

      Getting Blumenthal's email basically told him that Clinton's server existed, I see no reason to assume he even knew how to use the administration tools he supposedly may have hacked.

      It's more than possible that Clinton's sever was hacked by some foreign government, but if Guccifer had done so we already would have seen the emails along with the gloats about what an awesome hacker he is.

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  6. So what this shows is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems to me that this doesn't really do anything new, but provides a miracle play for the RNC who have, thus far, been floundering. Basically, they've been given a playbook to work from now, which they have been sorely lacking. Thank god they have a stable, intelligent candidate... oh god...

    The longer this goes on, the more I'm starting to think that this isn't a false flag on either party's part, but a well coordinated foreign effort to diminish US power.

  7. Putin's just showing he likes Trump by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Putin's just showing he likes Trump, after all one dictator can recognize a rising dictator. He'd love to see America in Trumps meglomaniac hands, the US would alienate all it's traditional allies and he's destroy our military power in short order invading countries that insult him.

    1. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As opposed to RIGHT NOW, where many of our current allies (Israel) are already alienated, our military is in shambles, and every time a Muslim kills a lot of Americans, the President rushes on TV to lecture us about Islamophobia. Oh and workforce participation is an all-time low, income inequality is horrible, food stamps way up, illegal immigration way up, and economic growth sucks. But it's racist to point any of this out.

    2. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Boronx · · Score: 0

      What's Israel mad at us for? Not fighting in Iran? or is it Syria this week? Or maybe it's because we keep asking them to honor their agreements. Maybe we should be nicer. They are our most important ally right after Canada, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, Norway, Portugal, Austria, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Australia and some others.

      "the President rushes on TV to lecture us about Islamophobia" He's trying to keep the bigots from giving ISIS what it wants. This is a good thing for presidents to do.

      The rest is pretty rich. When's the last time Obama's had his way on the economy? 2009 with the stimulus package. Since then the Republicans have happily sat on their hands while the recovery peters along at a miserable rate.

    3. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Insightful

      WTF, Trump is the most dovish President...ever. The neocons - you know, the ones who started all the wars - dumped him like a hot potato and endorsed Crooked Hillary. Alienating allies...like Obama has done such a good job of? You people really are delusional, aren't you?

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    4. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Putin's just showing he likes Trump, after all one dictator can recognize a rising dictator. He'd love to see America in Trumps meglomaniac hands, the US would alienate all it's traditional allies and he's destroy our military power in short order invading countries that insult him.

      Trump isn't going to be invading anywhere is he gets impeached on day one.

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    5. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... the US would alienate all it's traditional allies...

      Which are all parasites.

    6. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny you should say that. It's Clinton who is under investigation by the FBI as we speak.

    7. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      -we have more allies than just Israel. and most of them were alienated by bush the lesser, and those relationships repaired by Obama.
      -our military is in NO WAY in shambles
      -labor participation is dropping regardless of anything any one does. it has to do with the boomers retiring, not the economy.
      -inequality is horrible, but its not thanks to the current occupant, but rather the past several decades of structural issues in the economy
      -maybe you forgot, but the economy crashed a few years ago. of course stamps are up, and will remain up until people get back to where they were. that's what they are for
      -illegal immigration is at an all time low. deportations at a record high. next immigration across the Mexican border is flowing the other way....back to mexico.
      -economic growth does not suck, and has been positive for 74 consecutive months. the last president to do this well with the economy was Clinton.
      -its racist because they're mostly false claims directed at the black guy because he's black

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    8. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, he's right. Do you believe that we can run an industrial society on unicorn farts and rainbows?

    9. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Please point out the "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" that Trump has committed, which would get the US House of Representatives to vote on Articles of Impeachment on "day one."

      Yeah, I didn't think so. He may be an asshole, and you may not like him - that's perfectly fine. But don't throw around terms and processes that have actual legal meaning that you don't understand.

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    10. Re:Putin's just showing he likes Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      -we have more allies than just Israel. and most of them were alienated by bush the lesser, and those relationships repaired by Obama.

      W put together a coalition of 48 countries for the Iraq war. Most of those contributed little but they were signed on.

      I'm really interested to hear which countries were alienated by W and when the alienation occurred. I Googled for "George W Bush alienated" and found this, which is an article saying that President Obama's administration is doing such a horrible job that it makes the W administration look good.

      -our military is in NO WAY in shambles

      http://www.ibtimes.com/us-navy-doesnt-have-enough-ships-send-marines-crisis-zones-may-borrow-foreign-vessels-1990659

      https://news.usni.org/2015/11/04/navy-half-the-carrier-fleet-tied-up-in-maintenance-other-5-strained-to-meet-demands

      https://news.usni.org/2015/11/19/report-navy-and-marine-corps-strained-to-breaking-point-second-forward-carrier-in-the-pacific-could-help

      https://military.id.me/aircraft/marines-forced-raid-military-museum-aircraft-parts/

      "The U.S. Air Force is now short 4,000 airmen to maintain its fleet, short 700 pilots to fly them and short vital spare parts necessary to keep their jets in the air. The shortage is so dire that some have even been forced to scrounge for parts in a remote desert scrapheap known as 'The Boneyard.'"

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/14/wiped-out-air-force-losing-pilots-and-planes-to-cuts-scrounging-for-spare-parts.html

      http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/04/is-the-obama-administration-trying-to-wreck-the-military/

      -labor participation is dropping regardless of anything any one does. it has to do with the boomers retiring, not the economy.

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/louisefron/2014/08/20/tackling-the-real-unemployment-rate-12-6/

      http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-but-the-real-unemployment-rate-is-9-8-not-5/

      -inequality is horrible, but its not thanks to the current occupant, but rather the past several decades of structural issues in the economy

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/income-inequality-obama-bush_n_1419008.html

      -maybe you forgot, but the economy crashed a few years ago. of course stamps are up, and will remain up until people get back to where they were. that's what they are for

      As a candidate, and then as President, Mr. Obama was quite willing to blame W for the economy. Mr. Obama didn't cut W any slack on the economy; why should I be more forgiving toward Mr. Obama than he was toward his predecessor?

      And a robust economy helps people... "a rising tide lifts all boats." The Obama recovery is the worst economy recorded in modern times. It's nearly flatline.

  8. We got some real winners in poltics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's really embarrassing who we have running for President. Neither one is worthy or skilled or trustworthy to hold the office. Has it really come down to cheats, liars, and ever other derogatory trait that we have. I hope a bunch of stuff totally kills both Clinton and Trump's hopes for President. Let's have a write in campaign and vote for people with some sense of moderate views that might actually believe in them too.

    1. Re: We got some real winners in poltics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A burglar with 30 years experience doesn't nessearily have the skills to be a locksmith either...

    2. Re:We got some real winners in poltics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Grats on drinking the kool-aid. She talks out both sides of her mouth. Watch when she actually takes impromptu questions and has to think about what to say. She'll give a speech to one group of people one day, saying one thing, then the next day in front of a different crowd, say the opposite. She has scandal after scandal following her and all she can say is "vast right wing conspiracy". Her email scandal was all about hiding information from the public. Her foundation is a scam. There's till the linger of whitewater. She has no idea what the truth is. 100% politician for the sake of being a politician.

      As for her experience, she lost her right to practice law, she accomplished nothing special as a carpetbagger Senator (the only reason she ran was to bolster her credentials to run for President), her watch as Secretary of State was a disaster and is a major part of the problems in the Middle East today. Yes, you can blame Bush for what he did, but you cannot wish away what you inherit and expect that completely disengaging will make things magically better. She left a power vacuum that imploded the region that was somewhat stable and recovering. From some of the released emails, it appears that Obama didn't even trust her as an adviser and left her out of policy meetings. Her record is a farce.

    3. Re: We got some real winners in poltics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please list her accomplishments. What has she excelled at other than occupying important sounding positions?

    4. Re: We got some real winners in poltics by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please list her accomplishments. What has she excelled at other than occupying important sounding positions?

      She's got a ton of shit done, all of it fucking people over. It's not that she's not accomplished, it's that what she accomplishes is evil and we'd like her to accomplish a lot less.

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    5. Re:We got some real winners in poltics by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      How about, just maybe for a change, I know most people might consider silly and many others consider it worthless, maybe, just, maybe, HONESTY.

      Nah, honesty as the best qualification for a politician, what a stupid idea. Right down there with those other stupid ideas, like INTEGRITY, can have that any of that either.

      So let's all sing the "Hopey Changey Song", just imagine it in Sarah Palin's voice, here don't imagine it https://www.youtube.com/watch?....

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    6. Re: We got some real winners in poltics by dywolf · · Score: 2

      reality would like a word with you, but doesn't have the time to type everything up for the 20 millionth time. so here:

      https://slashdot.org/comments....
      https://slashdot.org/comments....

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    7. Re: We got some real winners in poltics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Becoming a member of the 1%
      2. Becoming an even better Liar than "Slick Willie" ever was
      3. Getting away with some amazing shit that would have anyone else in prison
      4. Casting herself as a victim
      5. Convincing millions of people she cares about anything other than her self
      6. Supporting countries that treat women worse than dirt while championing women's rights

  9. False Flag Operation..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably a false flag operation to pin the hack on Russia or Putin. It wouldn't surprise me if this hack was orchestrated by the RNC.

    1. Re: False Flag Operation..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same guys who lost to a real estate guy who just says whatever is on his mind? Yea, RNC is sooooopergenyus!

  10. Long form birth certificate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think it's about time Trump demands the release of Chelsea's long form birth certificate so that we can better determine the true nature of the relationship between Bill and Hillary.

    1. Re:Long form birth certificate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really incendiary. Web Hubble/Chelsea parental DNA test.

    2. Re:Long form birth certificate by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Long form birth certificate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it turns out Hillary is her father and Bill is her mother. Go figure.

    4. Re:Long form birth certificate by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The first married same sex couple?

  11. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch the press not talk about it, as they focus on something happening with the Kardashians or Paris Hilton.

  12. How do you know this isn't an intentional leak? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stuff's pretty mild. Internal documents you'd expect any politically active organization would have.

    Of course this will make the usual parade in the right-wing circlejerk media. Oh yes, this is what's going to nail the Clintons this time! Shit got old in the 90s.

    Maybe that's the point. The Dems have pretty much perfected the rope-a-dope. Keep their opponents safely and softly scandalized by carefully crafted messaging. Detractors wave their arms about scream themselves ragged on non-issues, drawing the attention away from bigger issues.

  13. To a resounding "Meh" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure why this is even on /.

    It's hardly news for nerds, hell it's hardly news. "Easily guessable compilation of press coaching material from US Presidential campaign proves unexciting with absolutely no real revelations whatsoever." This stuff would hardly be mentioned in politically focused news sites, hell even the most ardent and strident Trump supporters could barely do anything with this knowledge. So let's please stop getting "updates" on this "story".

    1. Re: To a resounding "Meh" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually quite interresting once you understand how things add up. Check the comments on the magnet link posted above

  14. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the defense for starting a civil war in Syria against all recommendations of the Department of Defense that directly aided ISIS and other Islamic extremist groups, killed 400k people, displaced millions of migrants, and then taking at least $10 million in donations from the Saudis who were the only ones to gain from the whole ordeal?

    1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same as when anyone else does something similar... "I'm a politician, fuck the rules"

    2. Re:Hmm by quantaman · · Score: 1

      What's the defense for starting a civil war in Syria against all recommendations of the Department of Defense that directly aided ISIS and other Islamic extremist groups, killed 400k people, displaced millions of migrants, and then taking at least $10 million in donations from the Saudis who were the only ones to gain from the whole ordeal?

      You sure we're talking about the same Syria? I don't recall the US starting any civil wars there. Iran and Russia have been helping Assad while Turkey was actually giving some help to ISIS, but the US has generally been on the sidelines.

      --
      I stole this Sig
  15. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Watch the press not talk about it, as they focus on something happening with the Kardashians or Paris Hilton.

    Or Trump saying something stupid ... again ...

  16. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch the press not talk about it, as they focus on something happening with the Kardashians or Paris Hilton.

    Or Trump saying something stupid ... again ...

    But not Hillary saying something stupefyingly stupid... again. Yeah imagine that.

  17. I guess they changed it by raymorris · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess they changed it. When I logged in, the first password was FuckBernie. An internal password was ClintonsDNC

  18. That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by raymorris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    >> Watch the press not talk about it, as they focus on
    > Trump saying something stupid ... again ...

    That's Trump's playbook. He spent way less than most candidates, and got much more coverage. One of his books has a chapter about publicity. It can be summarized as "be outrageous, the press is always looking for a story that's not boring." It's LITERALLY his playbook, available on Amazon.

    1. Re: That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wooow, available on Amazon you say?

    2. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by jandersen · · Score: 2

      ...be outrageous, the press is always looking for a story that's not boring...

      Nobody denies it is the way to act, if you are a celebrity for no other reason that you are able to place yourself on front pages, but how well will that work when you are the president? Promising to "act SO presidential..." just doesn't inspire a lot of confidence; it's like the winner of Big Brothel saying "I'll be SO scientific..." - one rather suspects they don't quite know what they are talking about.

    3. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by goose-incarnated · · Score: 3, Funny

      it's like the winner of Big Brothel saying "I'll be SO scientific..." -

      Now there's a reality show I'll watch :-)

      --
      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
    4. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Big Brothel

      Funny you say that, as that would be a good name for the White House while Bill was president. He was so presidential committing rape in the oval office.

      BTW, it is called rape when you get sexual favors while being someone's superior. It is termed quid pro quo.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    5. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by jandersen · · Score: 1

      BTW, it is called rape when you get sexual favors while being someone's superior. It is termed quid pro quo.

      I admit that I don't quite understand the American idea of what rape is; I'm used to the idea that it simply means forcing somebody to have sex against their will. Consensual sex, even if it is prohibited under the law, should not be called rape. Not even if the reasons for prohibition are entirely sensible, because it only serves to make the concept controversial and less clear in people's minds. When an important, legal concept is changed in this way, it tends to bring the law and the legal practice into to disrepute, which then can have the effect of harming victims of rape, because people (incl police) will think of 'rape' as being an term that is often unfairly applied. Hopefully that was not what the lawmakers had in mind.

    6. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Sorry for replying to my own post - I forgot to add that I am not commenting on whether or not Clinton did anything illegal in the White House when he had sex with an intern, or whether it was consensual or not. I know too little about the subject - at least too few facts. Also, I'm somewhat puzzled that Mr Clinton's behaviour has been used as a weapon against Mrs Clinton - I would have thought that if anything, she is the aggrieved party and deserves some sympathy on that account, at least.

    7. Re:That's TRUMP'S playbook, literally in his book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly, precisely how Obama got elected in 2008 but no democrat or progressive will ever admit it.

      Remember the dog on Romney's car? Or the bullying incident? How about calling Dubya a Nazi? Or branding everything you disagree with as racist?

      Hypocrisy on full display, day after day.

  19. If you're not in a swing state, vote libertarian by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My state is solidly Republican, so my vote couldn't possibly affect whether Hillary or Trump wins.

    However, in this election the Libertarian candidate is polling higher than ever. Both major parties have to notice this and think about adopting some libertarian views next time. I can encourage this by voting Libertarian. No, the Libertarian won't get elected this time, but the Republicans and Democrats WILL notice "gee, a lot of voters like libertarian policies. Maybe we should think about offering those voters some of what they want."

  20. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Interesting

    However, in this election the Libertarian candidate is polling higher than ever. Both major parties have to notice this and think about adopting some libertarian views next time.

    It happened after Perot.....both parties got serious about the deficit after that. Didn't last very very long, but it was good while it lasted.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  21. If you're not a fucking cuck, vote Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Voting for Gary "open the floodgates and let them all in" Johnson is just as bad as voting for Hillary. Libertarians live in a fantasy world where roads pave themselves, corporations benefit the public good, and the free market fairy will fix everything.

    1. Re:If you're not a fucking cuck, vote Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. If Libertarians want to see how well their model works, they should take a look at Somalia or Haiti.

    2. Re:If you're not a fucking cuck, vote Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Hong Kong (before the British turned it over) or Taiwan. Somalia and Haiti have basically no government, and what they do have is not democratic at all. That's not remotely close to what the libertarian model is. It's anarchy, not libertarianism.

  22. Less creative than it could have been by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is some excellent analysis and commentary here, focusing on the metadata and and how it exposes the political/financial connections.... I *highly* recommend you scroll down and go thru the comments there, keeping in mind the Clinton foundation was accepting multi-million dollar gifts from mideastern countries while she was arranging arms deals as Secretary of State. BTW the site I linked is starting to remind me more and more of the old Groklaw.

    I always see things like that and wonder whether anyone, anywhere can play a higher level of game.

    The person releasing the documents could have thought through what would happen. Knowing and with reasonable prediction, he *could* have placed some false and condemning documents in with the stash - something that would be outrageous if true.

    For the right and subtly-constructed data, the press would leap on it in a heartbeat and it be a sensation for a few days. Then it would be roundly disproven, and then it would cast doubt on all the other documents.

    The end result would be a lot of people chaotically talking about that specific candidate for a few days. Depending on the persuasion dimension, that could be crafted to be good or bad for the chosen candidate. Misleading identity would be bad for the candidate: something that causes the public to give the candidate a derogatory nickname. Misleading facts would be good for the candidate: cause a lot of talk, easily dis-proven, and doesn't apply to their persona.

    All we really see in this world is straightforward and transparent actions.

    I'd like to see someone hatch a conspiracy or elaborate prank on the world, just to show that there are people who can do it.

    1. Re:Less creative than it could have been by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Littlefinger: Chaos is a ladder.

    2. Re:Less creative than it could have been by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, except that we have other corroborating documents from the Clinton Foundation's public earnings reports, etc.

      Hey, know what? All Hillary has to do is not delete her emails and she can refute any claim that said emails were faked.

      Why the fuck is it that only smart people use PGP to sign and/or encrypt email? Too bad politicians are dumb as bricks.

    3. Re:Less creative than it could have been by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, with a politician as un-charismatic as Clinton, it doesn't take much to generate a scandal; if you were going to salt the documents then all it would take is light hand.

      That said, having looked at them myself I see no actual revelations. The strategy documents you could easily reverse engineer from the commonplace lines of attack the Republicans have been using and the public responses. The donor list contains no revelations, either.

      So the document corpus doesn't appear to have been salted. It's just an occasion to rehash the same points which can be argued from what was already public record.

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      Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    4. Re:Less creative than it could have been by chispito · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see someone hatch a conspiracy or elaborate prank on the world, just to show that there are people who can do it.

      Why go through all that trouble when you can just run a Word doc through a fax machine and the media will buy it?

      --
      The Daddy casts sleep on the Baby. The Baby resists!
  23. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The Russian word for truth is "Pravda" or " "
    Ironic, isn't it?

  24. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch the press not talk about it, as they focus on something happening with the Kardashians or Paris Hilton.

    Or Trump saying something stupid ... again ...

    But not Hillary saying something stupefyingly stupid... again. Yeah imagine that.

    Hillary is on C-Span talking about it right now.. turn on your TV and see for yourself...

  25. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, I guess cyrillic isn't accepted by slashdot.

  26. Including punctuation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C40AD332B018D3A42160D93FE3D5E94C790F133B&dn=HRC&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce&tr=udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce

    18 MB, lots of seeders, no waiting.

  27. The GOP is its worse enemy. by EzInKy · · Score: 0

    Despite all the logical argument against government interference, the GOP wants to enforce government interference. Perhaps if they could separate themselves from the "bible thumper's" they might gain more traction?

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    Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
    1. Re:The GOP is its worse enemy. by Boronx · · Score: 2

      You take away the bible thumpers and you've lost 30% of the GOP.

    2. Re:The GOP is its worse enemy. by EzInKy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps, but it is the bible thumpers who are driving away Libertarians who otherwise would flock to the GOP.

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      Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
    3. Re:The GOP is its worse enemy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Libertarians are overrated. If they implement their open borders plan, the libertarian movement will collapse entirely.

      The truth is, populism is the mode of the country. Trump's the closest thing to a populist we've got.

  28. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Aighearach · · Score: 2

    Or, there was an economic boom in the mid to late 90s, reducing the deficit.

  29. Re: DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 'c' key is clear across the keyboard! How did you fat finger that one?

  30. That's the best they have? Really? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I would expect they would try to release something that would be harmful to Hillary's campaign. None of that really sounds particularly earth-shattering, there. Even if the Russian government might feel that Clinton is a better candidate for their agenda (in spite of Drumpf's high praises for Putin), I would expect that the Russian hacker would find it useful to bash Clinton if for no reason other than to make the Kremlin look bad.

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    Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
  31. NO! It is HACKING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because slashdot editors say so. And all the breathless "computer security" blog kiddies too! So it must be true!

    Skills? We don't need no steenkin skills. This is HACKING, baby!

  32. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    Or, there was an economic boom in the mid to late 90s, reducing the deficit.

    That's definitely part of it, but it's not normal for politicians to get money and not spend it. There was a real focus on both sides of the aisle to reduce the deficit, that lasted through the Gore/Bush election (but Bush trashed it, and it hasn't been an issue since).

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  33. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Bartles · · Score: 1

    What's the Russian word for "reset"? Preferably the snootiest, most elitist usage.

  34. Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pravda

    noun

    truth, sooth, verity, veracity

    true, truth, verity, fact, sooth

    truthfulness, truth, veracity, honesty, verity, trueness

    accuracy, precision, exactness, fidelity, correctness, truth
     
    truth
     
    truth

    accordance, conformity, correspondence, concordance, accord, truth

  35. Re:That's the best they have? Really? by Boronx · · Score: 2

    I would expect the Clintons are pretty good these days at not leaving anything damning in documents, though I'm sure they're thinking more about legal discovery than hackers.

  36. Re:That's the best they have? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Russia, Clinton is safer than Trump. She has been bought by companies with money and is predictable. No one knows what the fuck Trump will do. Electing Trump is like electing the Joker as portrayed in The Dark Knight.

  37. Re:How many countries is Putin bombing/occupying n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russia under Putin has been bombing and occupying its neighboring countries for decades. Currently it supports several "independent" satellite states, recognized by nobody else, that were created by Russian invasions. Russia is still waging war in Ukraine that it invaded covertly and without any provocation, including shooting down a civilian airplane. And in Syria where it supports a horrendous dictatorship. And apropos bombing, did you forget the carpet bombing of Grozny?

  38. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or " "

    See? There is no word! They don't even have an alphabet that encodes in the Universal Character Set for nerds known as ASCII-7!

  39. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Politicians like to think short term, because most of the voters only think short term. Worrying about what will happen 10 years from now will lose you the election even though it's the sort of thinking smart people would like the politicians to have. When times are good politicians ignore the deficit, except in order to bring up how bad it was in the past under a different party. When times are bad they point to the deficit, build up panic, then trot out their standard tried-and-failed approaches to reduce it. For Republicans, when times are good you refund taxes, when times are bad you cut taxes. For Democrats when times are good you restore programs cut in the past, and when times are bad you add in programs to help people who are hurt by the bad times. Or you get a centrist that is hated by both sides (Jerry Brown in CA who tries to be more fiscally prudent than the democrats want but isn't into wholesale government dismantling like the republicans want).

  40. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    True, we were doing good and you can point to both sides of the aisle for helping there. But then we went to war and spent more money than we had on it all while being told "just go about your daily business as if we weren't at war, otherwise the terrists win."

  41. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    ASCII-7 is overkill. Baudot was good enough for grandpa so it's good enough for me!

  42. WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    "the GOP wants to enforce government interference"

    Really? The GOP is the one jamming political correctness into everything? the GOP is using the EPA to meddle in nearly every business and the BLM to use wetlands rules to assert various levels of control/regulatory authority over most private property? Those pesky Republicans are the ones demanding that dirty old men can use restrooms and showers and locker rooms with little girls? Sorry, but no. The Democrats are the party of massive intrusive overbearing totalitarianism and are the ones who keep injecting government into more and more of our lives.

    Conservatives (NOT the same as Republicans, but there is some overlap) are the ones who believe the Constitution actually means what it says and therefore are the ones who believe the federal government should be small and only involved in the very few things the document says it should. It's the political left who believes the Constitution is a "living document" which can be reinterpreted to mean anything that suits the whims of the day and the desires big government, thus enabling the government to get involved in everything.

    Your "Bible thumpers" comment outs you. You're apparently just hostile to the idea that protestant Christianity still has some influence in the nation that was built on it, even though it currently has less influence on the culture, civil society, and government that at any previous time in US history. I bet you feel all oppressed by the idea that there are free people who are able to think homosexuality is a sin and abortion is murder, and you want government to re-educate these people (something that absolutely constitutes "government interference" in the human right of free thought/conscience). You probably have no problem with the idea of GOVERNMENT pushing the "gay is ok" message and actually threatening to take funding away from schools that do not give legal cover to pedo pervs in bathrooms/lockerrooms by opening those rooms to any guy who claims momentary gender fluidity. If so, then you are not actually upset by the idea of government involvement in private matters, you are just annoyed by people (even not in government) on the "wrong side" of your preferred issues. Don't pretend that you are opposed to government interference; you just want it interfering in favor of you beliefs.

  43. You Nasty Patriarchist !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you not read the memo ?

    Genders are a construct of the nasty thoughts of the White Man, designed to suppress the Hermaphrodite nature of Homo Sapines !

    Your penis is just a product of your hallucination.

    From 2018 on, the words "man" "woman" "girl" and "boy" will be abolished. We will have one bathroom and we will stop speaking of penises and cunts. Total peace and harmony will come about.

    And if you do not agree with that, we have some Guillotines from 1789 left in order to chop off your head.

    Understand, comrade ?

  44. You seem to not understand the basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We do not have proof that this document is legitimate, but for the sake of the discussion, I'll assume it is.

    This document is NOT some attack document produced by Hillary opponents, Republicans, etc.

    In the US, political parties and candidates generally do "opposition research" on their opponents to find all their weaknesses in order to maximize the effectiveness of political attacks and messaging - which is obvious...... but then knowing that the other side is doing the same thing, the parties and the candidate's own campaign teams do that same research on their own side in order to see what their opponent is more likely to find and use against them.

    This document appears to be the document the Democrats themselves generated about their own candidate, thus outing the weak points in Hillary that the Democrats expect any opponent to try to exploit. That does NOT mean these are her only vulnerabilities. One of the problems of such reports is that they are from the very side that supports the candidate, which by definition means they are from the very team that thinks the candidate is wonderful.

    Had the document been a Republican document or, as some would pretend, a Russian document, then I'd wager that there'd be a whole lot more stuff in there

    1. Re:You seem to not understand the basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The devil is in the details. There is evidence that the DNC, Hillary's campaign, and the media were colluding to railroad the primary towards her victory. There was a document from over a year ago that assumed Hillary would be the nominee. There are examples of the ways that Hillary's campaign skirted what's left of campaign finance laws. All the rumblings from the Sanders camp about the election being rigged had a lot of truth to them.

  45. Bingo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wahabist financing of Clinton could eliminate her chances of success. They give the plebs some scandal breadcumbs insteads.

  46. Yes Madelaine Albright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is all sooooo sad about Russia.

    Putin the evil KGB man persecuted and sabotaged all your nice friends like Chodorkovsky, Nuland, Abramovitch, Timoshenko and the like. All they wanted to do is to have a little freedom to loot Russia's resources and transfer the money to New York and London. A nice little bit of freedom to make money, can't these Russians just comply with that ?

    Really evil people these KGBers and the ordinary Russians ! They simply do not allow you nice chaps to rape them.

    Time to inflame the U.S. sheeple so that they will fight for New York's Interests in Russia. Such a big country must belong to NY, just like Nigeria, that is only reasonable.

  47. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by sabbede · · Score: 1

    You don't buy someone off and then throw the money away by revealing it.

  48. Totally agreed. Too bad, he was effective by raymorris · · Score: 0

    I totally agree. I quite disappointed that he's taken the path he has. Quite disappointed that he's the "R" nominee (much to the chagrin the R leadership) also. His publicity antics are an embarrassment.

    Prior to the campaign, I saw him as an effective executive who hires really good people and works well with them, and someone who is very good at understanding the other party's position and getting a mutually agreeable deal done. Many months ago, I had hoped he might be able to help break the deadlock in Congress because he has been a very effective negotiator. He's had a lot of facepalm moments since then.

    1. Re:Totally agreed. Too bad, he was effective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's had a lot of facepalm moments since then.

      Yeah, like getting more votes than any other republican candidate, ever. [FACEPALM] What the fuck is this guy thinking?

  49. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

    Sounds like my state except mine is solidly Democrat. I have been telling everyone in my state who isn't going to vote for Hillary to instead vote for Gary Johnson since voting for a republican presidential candidate in my state is just like throwing your vote away.

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    Time to offend someone
  50. Thank prank has been done... by gosand · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd like to see someone hatch a conspiracy or elaborate prank on the world, just to show that there are people who can do it.

    Trump 2016

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    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

    1. Re:Thank prank has been done... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Trump was doing his birther nonsense a few years back, my friend was convinced he was trolling America. I am sad to see my friend proved wrong.

    2. Re:Thank prank has been done... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be so sure yet that it isn't a yuuuuge troll. Imagine this playing out at the RNC.

      Trump takes stage, standing ovations, finally the crowd shuts up.

      Trump: "Thank you. Thank you! You know how much we hate low-energy people, right?"

      Crowd goes nuts.

      Trump: "Let me tell you something. Hatred and bigotry, those are the easy ways to deal with other people. Those are low-energy."

      Crowd goes silent.

      Trump: "If you really think we should build a wall to keep Mexicans out, you're low-energy and I don't like you. If you really think we should ban Muslims from coming into this country, you're low-energy and I don't like you."

      Crowd starts booing.

      Trump: "You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You're embarrassing to me as an American. You embarrass the rest of America in front of the entire world. I respectfully decline the nomination for President of the United States!" (drops mic)

      If you think it can't happen, just keep watching.

    3. Re:Thank prank has been done... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for Trump to announce Hillary as his running mate, and Hillary to announce the other way. That would make the whole election a great big troll.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    4. Re:Thank prank has been done... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for Trump to announce Hillary as his running mate, and Hillary to announce the other way. That would make the whole election a great big troll.

      That's the way it used to work. Not with the running mates, but runner-up was VP. it was an extra layer of gridlock where the VP could vote against executive interest with the deciding vote if there was a tie in the Senate, just to stick it to the President. Now tie votes are assured to follow executive branch interests.

  51. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... OR... Baby Boomers were at their maximum incomes before retirement, contributing a massive surplus to the Social Security Trust fund... which was immediately replaced with "Special Treasury Securities" (IOUs) to offset excessive federal spending. The books have been cooked since 1964.

  52. Re:Really ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do your bit like I do.

    Does it pay well?

  53. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

    Good advice, and this applies no matter what direction your state votes, and no matter your own political orientation.

    If you're conservative and you live in California where all your state's electors will go to Hillary no matter what, you should still vote Libertarian.

    If you're liberal and you live in California, you should also vote Green. You're not going to let Trump win, Hillary's getting all your state's electors anyway.

    If you're liberal and you live in whatever solid-red state raymorris here is from, you should still vote Green. Hillary's not winning there anyway.

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    -Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
    "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
  54. Dumb loser hackers acting like stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    while failing to do anything at all

  55. Re:DNC playbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, she doesn't ever say anything to the press, so it would be hard for her to say something stupid into a camera.

    200 days and counting without a press conference...

  56. Re: DNC playbook by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    Oh, you're such a pard.

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    His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  57. Re:If you're not in a swing state, vote libertaria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We called it the dawn of the PC and the dot com boom.

  58. media coverup by billd10 · · Score: 0

    The media will do what they can to elect a traitor, criminal, and incompetent leader whose name is Hillary (after Sir Edmund who became famous well after she was born.)

  59. Re:Of course Russia denies involvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pravda also means "Really" as in:

    This is a reset button

    Really?

    Ask someone who actually speaks the language this question.

  60. Re:How many countries is Putin bombing/occupying n by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Russia under Putin has been bombing and occupying its neighboring countries for decades. did you forget the carpet bombing of Grozny?

    You mean you have one neighbor. Not countries on the other side of the planet from them. And that neighbor having "islamic extremists" in it - something American Exceptionalists bomb with gusto, but not on their borders. So, you were deflecting?