New C++ Features Voted In By C++17 Standards Committee (reddit.com)

New submitter lefticus writes: The upcoming C++17 standard has reached Committee Draft stage, having been voted on in the standards committee meeting in Oulu, Finland this Saturday. This makes C++17 now feature complete, with many new interesting features such as if initializers and structured bindings having been voted in at this meeting.

An [audio] interview with the C++ committee chair, Herb Sutter, about the status of C++17 has also been posted.

Comments

Sweet

[Kohath]

C++ needed more features. Some C++ books aren't even 1000 pages long.

Re:Sweet

[Longjmp]

C++ needed more features. Some C++ books aren't even 1000 pages long.

I agree! And more use of the "const" keyword.
I want to write something like
const int const foo(const*(const) int const a) const: const {}
and
for (const i = 0;const i(const)++; i and finally:
const return const 1 (const const const)

Re:Sweet

[ffkom]

No Perl is for those who insist that every possible sequence of bytes shall be a valid program, because otherwise there is unnecessary redundancy in the code.

Re:Sweet

[Dutch Gun]

You need to divide C++ into two sections: Stuff that's useful for applications, and stuff that's mostly relevant to library writers. A lot of the really hairy stuff is mostly for the library writers. Moreover, a lot of the complexity of C++ (and corresponding slowness of its compilers) comes from compatibility with C and with older versions of itself. If you strip away all that, the core language that most people deal with isn't quite as daunting.

That being said, nobody is claiming that C++ isn't a difficult language to master. Scott Myers has made a career of pointing people away from it's darkest corners, after all.

But really, C++ programming took a quantum leap forward with C++11, and C++14 just filed away some of the rough edges. It's hard to explain to non-C++ programmers what a transformation it was. I'm not expecting nearly as much with C++ 17, but I look forward to seeing if any of the proposed features will be useful in my day-to-day work.

Sigh

[Man On Pink Corner]

Still no functional gonkulators. Still no encabulation templates. Still no dichroic monads or parameterized gussets. When will the C++ committee ever get around to adding modern language features that users actually want?

Re: c++ is now the world's most complex language

[110010001000]

C++ is actually used in real programs for a large amount of software you use every day. Go, Swift and Rust aren't even used in the flagship products written by the organizations that created the languages. That should tell you what the difference is.

They also forgot

[presidenteloco]

Open closures, interior decorators, and conditional consts. In protest I'm gong back to c++--