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Google Ponders About a Chromebook Pro (venturebeat.com)

Google is currently surveying people about what a Chromebook Pro should be like. VentureBeat's report cites two people who recently shared the development on a forum. One user was asked the question, "How would you think a Chromebook Pro is different than a Chromebook?" whereas the other user was asked, "what a Chromebook Pro should be like in [his/her] opinion and what type of people would want to use it." From the report:The word "Pro" would imply a high-end laptop running Chrome OS, just like, say, the MacBook Pro or the Surface Pro 4. But there are many other companies -- Asus, Dell, HP, and Samsung, among others -- that make Chromebooks, along with Google. It isn't clear from these survey questions if Google is thinking about making a Chromebook Pro itself, just as it has made high-end Chromebook Pixel laptops, or if Google is just wondering how consumers would perceive a Chromebook Pro made by a third party. Meanwhile, Google last month published a job posting entitled "Quality Engineer, Chromebook Pixel," suggesting that a third generation of that device could be on the way.Chromebooks are becoming increasingly popular. They outsold Mac for the first time in the United States earlier this year. The majority of the Chromebooks available today, however, pack in entry-level specifications, giving users very limited choice. Though we have seen devices like Chromebook Pixel, a range of high-end Chromebooks could entice even more customers.

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  1. As free as possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No hidden management engine. As little binary blobs as possible. Runs well with free video drivers.

    C'mon, Google. You're big. You can pull it off.

    Show us you are *not* the NSA.

  2. "Pro" by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

    The word "Pro" would imply ..

    ..that the machine is for people who use it for work, rather than for recreation. For most people's work, that means it wouldn't need to be as powerful, since it's just running text editors or entering/submitting forms, instead of 3D rendering monsters, figuring out dwarves' paths, etc.

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    1. Re:"Pro" by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about 'runs the Chrome web apps on infrastructure that my company controls instead of Google?' If you want people to trust it for work, then it has to not be sending all of their commercially sensitive data to a third party.

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  3. My personal list by coolmoe2 · · Score: 2
    If google wants to know what I would consider a "pro" level chromebook it would have to have the following in order of importance.
    1. Longer service life - I want both the hardware and software to be supported for more then 4-5 years.
    2. No advertising - If this is a pro model then its probably aimed more at a work computer. So do not spam be or hit me up for upgrades or anything else during business hours for sure.
    3. Ability to turn off all telemetry

    If they did just those three things I would probably buy one. Until then I just torture my kids with them.

  4. Create? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Do the people who use a Chromebook create anything or are they simply consuming web content? If they are consumers, there is literally no reason to create a Pro version of the device.

    If they actually create lasting useful content that has meaning, then perhaps there is a reason to have a Pro version of the device. I'm doubtful.

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    1. Re:Create? by aunchaki · · Score: 2

      I'm writing this on my Chromebook Pixel, with its glorious screen. I run Linux via crouton and do plenty of creation on it. I thought I'd just use it as a Linux machine, but the ChromeOS front-end offers such a great browsing experience, that I spend plenty of time there, as well. I love mine.

    2. Re:Create? by tepples · · Score: 2

      Booting Linux via Crouton is trivial.

      Until someone else turns it on and presses Space. Then what happens to your data?

    3. Re:Create? by tepples · · Score: 2

      You've outlined two possibilities:

      • A. Someone will press a sequence of two keys that the firmware explicitly prompts him to press.
      • B. Someone will drop your laptop hard enough to break its drive, especially if it's an SSD.

      I find A far more likely than B, especially for someone who knows about laptops in general but doesn't know about Chromebook firmware.

  5. Re:I want a pointing device that doesn't suck ass by Nunya666 · · Score: 2

    Give me a trackpoint and I will buy it. Touchpads suck, period. I don't care who makes them I have never seen a touchpad that was anywhere near as good as the trackpoints I have had on my laptops over the years.

    As long as it doesn't have a trackpoint. Trackpoints suck, period. I don't care who makes them I have never seen a trackpoint that was anywhere near as good as the touchpads I have had on my laptops over the years.

    In other words, YMMV.

  6. Re:English, mother******, do you speak it? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

    English, mother******, do you speak it?

    what?

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  7. full Ubuntu by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is currently surveying people about what a Chromebook Pro should be like.

    How about running a full Ubuntu system, while still supporting all Chrome and Android apps?

  8. How does this differ from the Pixel? by Improv · · Score: 2

    I'm a SRE at a large (non-Google) tech company, and I have a Chromebook Pixel as a secondary system I use all the time, at work and at home. It's incredibly useful and I'm quite happy with it (with ChromeOS in developer mode, which just gives me a shell that's occasionally useful). The idea of high-end Chromebooks makes a lot of sense (for some people) even though I couldn't've guessed it would before I had one. Still, right now to me "Pro" is just a word. It's unclear to me how it'd be different from what I already have.

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  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

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  10. Speak for yourself by Viol8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find trackpoints utterly unusable. Using them to guide the pointer is like trying to guide a drunk across a busy road using sign language from 2 miles away. A trackpad is much better, but the small trackballs that used to be incorporated into laptops back in the day are far superior to both.

  11. 100% libre laptop, please by xororand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it puzzling that not a single vendor goes to market a laptop with a fully free as in freedom software stack, including the initializing program or BIOS.
    Programmable components apart from the CPU, say hard drive controllers or 4G modems, should be isolated with an IOMMU.
    The last laptops that don't tread on your freedom are from 2008: https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl...

    Is this problem too hard for corporations with billions of R&D money at their disposal?
    Are they forbidden to develop hardware that doesn't subjugate the user's freedom by 3 letter agencies?
    Or, is it simply that most people do not care?

  12. Does anyone really need this? by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    It's an interesting idea... I mean, I certainly looked at Chromebooks before but took a pass on buying one due to the low hardware specs. I've worked in I.T. for decades - and it's a fairly regular thing to run across a 5-6 year old notebook computer that someone is happy to get rid of free. Spend $20 on a new battery for it from some vendor on Amazon and maybe upgrade the RAM or swap in a new SSD, and you have a laptop that performs at least as well as any Chromebook for very little money. (And you recycled something existing, instead of buying more gear. Arguably a good thing.)

    But I have a feeling the appeal of the Chromebook as it stands today is the low price-point. You get something that looks modern, is relatively thin and lightweight, and for less money than the Windows laptops they're selling everywhere. They're good enough for schools (their biggest customers) too.

    If you beefed it up to deserve the "Pro" moniker - how would that affect the price? IMO, the vendors selling the "nicer" Chromebooks with more RAM and so forth are already nearing the price points where you wonder why you'd still buy one instead of a full-featured notebook on sale, running Windows 10.