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US Customs Wants To Know Travelers' Social Media Account Names (helpnetsecurity.com)

Orome1 quotes a report from Help Net Security: The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency has submitted a request to the Office of Management and Budget, asking for permission to collect travelers social media account names as they enter the country. The CBP, which is part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, proposes that the request "Please enter information associated with your online presence -- Provider/Platform -- Social media identifier" be added to the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) and to the CBP Form I-94W (Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver Arrival/Departure). "It will be an optional field to request social media identifiers to be used for vetting purposes, as well as applicant contact information," the CBP noted. "Collecting social media data will enhance the existing investigative process and provide DHS greater clarity and visibility to possible nefarious activity and connections by providing an additional tool set which analysts and investigators may use to better analyze and investigate the case." The public and affected agencies are asked to comment on the request within 60 days of its publication. Commenters are asked to send their comments to this address.

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  1. That'll be interesting by thundercattt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Especially when a Slashdot type person goes "don't have one, don't need one, don't want one". Then you end up in the little room as a suspicious person.

    1. Re:That'll be interesting by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just tell them your slashdot ID then. Mine is 3654617.

    2. Re:That'll be interesting by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just tell them your slashdot ID then.

      That's likely to be worse that having no social media!

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    3. Re:That'll be interesting by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Or whenever they ask, use national characters making up words like "räksmörgås". It would be interesting to see them trying to type that.

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    4. Re:That'll be interesting by sshir · · Score: 2

      Or a "not slashdot type person" traveling with wife will have to report his Ashley Madison account...

    5. Re:That'll be interesting by sg_oneill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please step out of line, sir. I'm going to need you to put your hands where I can see them. Can someone bring me some more rubber gloves?

      Are these grits in your pants sir??????

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    6. Re:That'll be interesting by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 2

      I have the opposite problem - I'd have to decide whether to give them my Google+ or Diaspora account.

    7. Re:That'll be interesting by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just tell them your slashdot ID then. Mine is 3654617.

      If I told them mine was 175943 they would accuse me of lying by claiming so a low ID.

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    8. Re:That'll be interesting by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Funny

      But it would explain to the customs agent why you have no social life that would require social media.

    9. Re:That'll be interesting by originalGMC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But it would explain to the customs agent why you have no social life that would require social media.

      That's not one of the multiple choices they offer you.

    10. Re:That'll be interesting by Wocko · · Score: 3, Informative

      No they wouldn't.

    11. Re:That'll be interesting by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are these grits in your pants sir??????

      No, I'm not pleased to see you, that actually is a beowulf cluster in my pocket.

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    12. Re:That'll be interesting by Ambassador+Kosh · · Score: 2

      There are still many of us around that have low slashdot ID.

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    13. Re:That'll be interesting by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are still many of us around that have low slashdot ID.

      I doubt that. Any examples?

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    14. Re:That'll be interesting by VValdo · · Score: 5, Funny

      If only I hadn't spent those first few months lurking without an account...

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    15. Re:That'll be interesting by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 5, Funny

      If only I hadn't spent those first few months lurking without an account...

      Me too!

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    16. Re:That'll be interesting by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

      There are no people on Slashdot with low UIDs. All that is left below the 10000 mark are bots that spend endlessly parsing posts for references for UIDs just so they can make some witty meta comment about themselves.

      Prove you're human.

    17. Re:That'll be interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes Mr/Mrs Officer. Of course I have a social media life. My slashdot account name is "Anonymous Coward".

    18. Re:That'll be interesting by c · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are no people on Slashdot with low UIDs. All that is left below the 10000 mark are bots that spend endlessly parsing posts for references for UIDs just so they can make some witty meta comment about themselves.

      I... dammit. They're onto us!

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    19. Re:That'll be interesting by grub · · Score: 3, Funny

      Grass didn't yet evolve when I was your age. I had to tell kids to get off my gravel.

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    20. Re:That'll be interesting by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      There's a thread about pear-shaped nuclei pointing towards some past event. Perhaps that's you?

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    21. Re:That'll be interesting by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are these grits in your pants sir??????

      No, I'm not pleased to see you, that actually is a beowulf cluster in my pocket.

      Sir, why would you even think it was okay to bring four dead woodchucks onto a plane?

    22. Re:That'll be interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Me three!!

    23. Re:That'll be interesting by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This new login thing is a fad.

    24. Re:That'll be interesting by VValdo · · Score: 2

      Hah! Look at us losers! We BARELY missed four digits! ;)

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  2. Easier to Travel To China by EEPROMS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a foreigner who lives outside of china and USA it is far easier to travel around China now than the USA. Also the chances of getting shot at while taking in the views are next to zero in china compared to the USA.

    1. Re:Easier to Travel To China by Harlequin80 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      China is still more effort to get a visa for than the US, for Aussies anyway. But the airports, customs, border control & security theatre in the US is worse.

      I will definitely agree with you on the feeling safe part. China just feels safe.

    2. Re:Easier to Travel To China by zedaroca · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a Brazilian, 100% agreed.
      Chinese visa -> pay a little, send document and passport by mail, get the visa the same way. No explaining, just a 3 month period when I was planning to go.
      American visa -> expensive visa. Fill forms on the Internet explaining my traveling plans (where, who's house, witch hotel), etc and book a date to take a photo and to do an interview. Had to travel to one of the cities with an embassy (1hr by plane), go to one of their photograph centers let them take a photo (for the FBI/NSA/DHS face recognition database, ie be treated like a criminal), then go to the embassy, get huge lines, do the whole security theater thing, do an interview, pay extra to get the visa by mail later.

      Besides the safety aspect, I'm not scared of bringing electronics in/out of China, they won't mess with your luggage. To the US, the only safe option is to discard anything that gets out of your sigh (remember hdd firmware virus), so you are limited to carry on.

    3. Re:Easier to Travel To China by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep. I was passing through China to Malaysia, but had an overnight stay. They let me get a day visa to visit the city by filling in a small form and going through the passport inspection line with it. No advance planning required.

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    4. Re: Easier to Travel To China by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

      Annual number of gun deaths is us = ~12,000

      That's truly awful, but I'm talking about tourists. And outside of minority inner-city gangs, the homicide rate in the US is not much worse than other developed countries. Gun violence is something that tourists should be aware of in places like Orlando or New Orleans, but the traffic and smog in China are bigger killers.
      Take precautions, and enjoy your vacation.

  3. Meanwhile.... by matbury · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...extremists are busy creating new FB accounts and smothering them with cat pics and lolz.

    1. Re:Meanwhile.... by bloodhawk · · Score: 2

      I am not involved in anything dodgy, but I keep a set of very clean social media accounts just for purposes of job interview, security checks and because some people I really don't want to interact with and the best way to avoid them is just give them my "clean" social media identity which I almost never use. update them maybe once every few months.

      why do it? well I like to have open and honest discussions with friends as well as joke around and I want to do that without having to be concerned that something politically incorrect said or posted by me or a friend is taken out of context or used against me at a later date. Once it is posted under your name it is near impossible to remove it.

  4. Bunch of morons at CBP by mea2214 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any real terrorist cell with two brain cells to put together will have a well maintained perfectly clean set of social media accounts. All I see is a huge jobs program requiring more CPB "investigators" to vet all this bullshit.

    1. Re:Bunch of morons at CBP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In fairness, there seem to be a lot of terrorists and other criminals who are not very intelligent.

    2. Re:Bunch of morons at CBP by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They are only interesting in catching the low hanging fruit, the idiots who post ISIS propaganda on their Facebook page before trying to enter the US. Throw in some students who post about how they are going to have a wild party and you have your quota for that month. Look, we made the border even worse than last month, see how vitally important we are to national security?!

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  5. On Fetlife I'm... by RJFerret · · Score: 2

    On Fetlife I'm...

    On Literotica I'm...

    On MyFreeCams I'm...

    On Google+ I'm... (of course you aren't in my circle, but I do share publicly about once a week)

    On Twitter you won't see activity ever since Google+ came on the scene.

    On Youtube, oh wait, you didn't like the Fetlife stuff; you can't see the private stuff on Youtube anyway, been years since I posted a public video...

    Makes me wonder if anyone's kink is learning others' kinks?

  6. Need to know? by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 2

    No one needs to know all my associates and random online links.
    no one but a slave would answer that question.

    1. Re:Need to know? by urdak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The American Security Theater Administration (or whatever their real name is) already asks people going into the US idiotic questions - I've been asked for the address of my hotel, address and phone numbers of my relative in the US (why?), the address of the university I finished 20 years ago (why, you want to send them mail?), and a lot of other crap. Clearly, I could invent random responses and the interviewer would not know any better. I could also claim I didn't have or didn't know an answer. But do you know anybody who, after spending thousands of dollars on a vacation, would risk it all just to spite the security interviewer? So everybody (except the actual terrorists, of course) just tells these guys the truth. And hates the American culture just a little bit more :-(

  7. When does the insanity end? by surfdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean, just pull us all into the back room and start the waterboarding already.

  8. Re:"optional" as long as you fill it out... by dbIII · · Score: 2

    I don't see this flying very far

    That's what I thought about the TSA ball squeezing. Now I would say all bets are off.
    There was a comedy anime where the building destroying "heroes" had a catchphrase "anything can be done in the name of justice!". That's increasingly the line being taken in a slide towards authoritarianism.
    Papers please.

  9. *Sigh* by DivineKnight · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They don't learn, do they? L'il Bobby Tables & friends it is then. They're probably running some version of Oracle on the backend, so keep that in mind while you are registering your new completely legitimate social media account names expressly for this use.

    1. Re:*Sigh* by sshir · · Score: 2
  10. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    My online presence is Anonymous Coward. You will notice from my history, that I have nothing to hide. In fact, you may not even see my posts, unless you click load all comments 1000 times.

  11. Same Same Thailand by jmd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Thai Immigration is beginning to request the same information of foreigners entering or staying in the country. Thailand is under military junta at the moment.

    I am living in Thailand on a Non - Immigrant retirement visa and had thought I might leave, in part, due to this invasion of privacy. But I see the US junta has the same aspirations.

  12. Re:"optional" as long as you fill it out... by mattwarden · · Score: 2

    > You need a new tag line in this hottest year ever.

    It's amazing to watch the complete scientific ignorance from the group that pats themselves on the back for being on the side of science.

  13. Why would you not give your name? by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you care little enough about privacy to be on "social media" why would you care?

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  14. Re:"optional" as long as you fill it out... by James+McGuigan · · Score: 2

    Goatse.cx - social media for those with nothing to hide

  15. And what's next? by treczoks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And in the next iteration, account names will be mandatory, together with the passwords for them (verified on the spot by your friendly customs people) and the PINs for your banking cards?

    The PSA (Paranoid States of America) still shit their pants because of one terrorist incident a decade ago, while local yokels with guns (including the police) kill ten times that much people per year.

  16. No US travel then for me by johanw · · Score: 2

    I like Wikileaks on Facebook, they'll never let me in.

  17. They already analyze your social media stuff. by Ihlosi · · Score: 2

    Looks like they just want to make it official.

  18. Then do something by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a request from a bureaucrat for permission. There's 60 days for the public to weigh in. If you don't like it, instead of bitching on /., call your congressman/submit an opinion through the proper channels.

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  19. Re:TL;DR by hughbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, it's very sad. Last time I went was 1989, I'm 65, a Londoner and not planning on going again. Mid 80's I went out with someone from Oregon and was made very welcome, they enjoyed my strange accent too. New York too, immediately you arrive you feel that you drank about five cups of strong coffee (though I guess New Yorkers are immune?).

    I don't think the people have changed that much and, very often, they are lovely. But the government etc. seems to have.

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  20. Now who is laughing? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google created google+ accounts for every gmail user. People laughed at its pathetic attempt to ape facebook. Now who's laughing? Google was actually doing all gmail users a favor. There will be an useless google+ account that no one bothers to look at, but will qualify as the social media account for the purpose of filling out some damned form to TSA!

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  21. No problem officer.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm known as "EatShitTSA" on most social networks....

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  22. Re:They're unlikely to see mine because... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Want some fun? They can treat all the citizens inside like shit for 100 miles within the border.

    Sadly my fellow americans are so stupid to tolerate the fake security theater over their freedom, that they actually seem to LIKE it.

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  23. You need to understand American Law by lamer01 · · Score: 2

    The questions are so that after you commit a crime they can charge you with additional crimes such as 'lying on a federal form'. They are not really interested in preventing crime, they are interested in being able to incarcerate you after you commit it. Brilliant, isn't it?

  24. Re: "optional" as long as you fill it out... by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    This is slashdot, where 1+1=10.