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RIP Xbox Fitness: Users Will Soon Lose Access To Workout Videos They Bought (arstechnica.com)

insitus quotes a report from Ars Technica: Xbox users who purchased training videos through the Xbox Fitness app probably thought they were buying a workout program they'd be able to use regularly for the life of the Xbox One, at the very least. Instead, those videos will soon be completely unavailable to those who paid for them up front, according to a "sunset" plan announced by Microsoft yesterday evening. Xbox Fitness first launched in late 2013 with the console, offering a Kinect-powered health app that uses the 3D camera to evaluate users' form as they perform the exercises demoed by on-screen video trainers. The app, which provided 30 basic routines for free with an Xbox Live Gold account, will be coming to an end on December 15. The paid content associated with the app will also no longer be available for purchase, and those who purchased it previously will be able to use it for over one more year before the app becomes completely unavailable to download or use on July 1, 2017. What some have found especially upsetting with the news is that Microsoft has yet to announce any plans to compensate users who have paid for content or to provide downloadable versions of paid workouts that can be used after the phase-out date. Thus, many upset users have taken to the sunset announcement post and various other outlets to speak their mind on the situation. "I bought 140$+ worth of content just this year... I don't want a refund, I want to be able to continue to use what I PAID for !!!!!!!!!!!" Xbox Live user QuickSilver wrote.

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  1. Hey Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck you. Die of cancer in a fire.

    That is all.

  2. Don't pay ownership prices for rental material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We told you so.

    1. Re:Don't pay ownership prices for rental material by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A change in the law is needed. Companies shouldn't be able to write "buy now" when they mean "rent now". The language should be clear about it.

      Sounds like a class action lawsuit.

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  3. Fool me twice... by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just Microsoft once again making certain your bought and paid for content Plays For Sure! (tm)

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  4. Live by the cloud... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...die by the cloud.

  5. They didn't buy it by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They bought a license to let them use it. This is why I don't buy anything in the cloud, if I don't have the physical media then the thing I "bought" can go away at any time.

    When I buy a game and "they" take down the multi-player servers, I get it. I can still play the single player game, but can no longer shoot n00bs. In this case, I can no longer sit on the couch eating ice cream while watching Jillian Michaels's ass. They took away my single player game which, had the game been designed correctly, would put exactly 0.0% load on anybody's servers. Of course, the game was poorly designed such that they wanted telemetry on who watched her ass when, hence the game you bought has to go away.

    And yeah, I know single player games are going to this model. Wanna guess how many games I've bought that use this model? If you guessed 0.0% then you get a prize.

    1. Re:They didn't buy it by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's all about DRM, the "right" of the publishers to control when, where, and how you use a product regardless of and in spite of any laws to the contrary. They go out of business then you lose everyrhing you bought from them, even if they just get tired of the product and discontinue selling new ones you lose all the old access. Imagine if this were automobiles and there was no such thing as a "classic" because they just suddenly vanished into thin air.

    2. Re:They didn't buy it by suss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Expect those laws to disappear when those countries ratify the Trans-Pacific Partnership...

  6. Sorry but at this point its self inflicted by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is far from the first time that Microsoft have totally cut off users from DRM'd content that they have already bought. Its already very well-known that Microsoft clearly feel free to fuck their own customers over anytime they please.

    When will people finally get it? If you don't want the risk of your media/games/apps library just disappearing one day, STOP BUYING FROM MICROSOFT. That includes buying any platform (e.g. XBox, Microsoft phones, tablets) that lock you into only buying from the Microsoft Store.

    1. Re:Sorry but at this point its self inflicted by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >> That's just bizarre. Incomprehensible. Smells like poor management.

      Not really. They've discovered that the public really are mostly made up of schmucks who will still queue up to buy the next XBox no matter how much Microsoft fuck their own customers over.

  7. We aren't all hardcore gamers by itamblyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I feel like MS has missed the fact that there are a lot of Xbox users out there that bought the machine specifically for the Kinect and associated content. If I wanted an ultimate gaming platform I would have bought a PC. I bought the Xbox because the Kinect is fun and gets you off the couch. Just because non-gamers don't rant and rave on the internet about Xbox vs PS4 specs doesn't mean they shouldn't have some say about how the platform develops.

  8. the world's smallest violin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For decades we've been seeing that if you buy DRMed shit, you can and will lose access to it at any time, either temporarily (such as DRMed games with activation servers taken offline) or permanently (Walmart DRMed music). These events have been the primary headline on CNN, BBC, and other major news outlets.

    By now, if you are still buying DRMed things - either software or hardware - tough shit when you lose access to them. You gave someone else control, so suck it up, bubs. You want a world where that doesn't happen? Buy non-DRMed stuff. There isn't "enough" of it, you say? (1) bullshit, there's more high quality stuff than you'll ever consume in a single human lifetime, and (2) there will be more once it becomes clear to companies that DRM = death in the marketplace. But the message you are sending now is DRM = wild success, so you can't then turn around and bitch that there isn't enough.

    You want me to feel sorry you lost access to some DRMed thing you "bought"? Here's the world's smallest violin, playing just for you.

  9. Time and time and time again.. by AbRASiON · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Software companies show us exactly WHY users want physical versions of software, why they want DRM removed.
    The fact the console companies have the audacity to charge more for the download versions only makes things worse.

  10. Microsoft announcement: "content youâ(TM)ve p by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it interesting that the Microsoft announcement says "This includes content youâ(TM)ve purchased." Not "subscribed to", "purchased". I wonder where else they used the word "purchased". I'm sure they have some BS in the tiny print, but if the bold print says "purchase" in multiple places ...

  11. Re:Microsoft announcement: "content youâ(TM)v by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's even more interesting when you contrast it with the way the media conflate copyright infringement with stealing. When someone makes a bootleg copy of a movie, the original is still accessible. When someone steals something from you, you lose access to what has been stolen.

    So, when will we read the news "Microsoft will steal workout videos from consumers"?

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  12. Re:Microsoft please keep it up by MadMaverick9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of people actually do put up with this crap and will continue to do so, because they think (or actually - they're being told) they need this shit that is being shoved down their throats and up their asses.

    Make up your own damn mind. Trust nobody.

  13. is it any wonder ... by thephydes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... that folks pirate stuff? I have no personal interest in x-box or any apps that run on them (don't own one and have no desire to), but when you treat your customers like shit, then you can't really complain when they treat your product as a freely available commodity. Suck it up MS, you will reap what you sow for previously loyal x-box users.