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Microsoft Kills Windows 10's Messaging Everywhere Texts, To Bolster Skype (pcworld.com)
Reader tripleevenfall writes: The ability to respond to text messages received on your phone with the same app on your PC. It's a dream that's been a reality for Mac users since 2014, and Windows 10 Mobile users were supposed to get the feature, called Messaging Everywhere, with the Anniversary Update rolling out August 2.
But that's not happening anymore. Instead, Microsoft thinks it has a better idea: add Messaging Everywhere to an upcoming version of Skype for Windows 10 PCs.Microsoft commentator Brad Sams writes, "Skype barely works; let's add new features. Texting from your phone is cool, let's remove it. 0.0% people want this."
But that's not happening anymore. Instead, Microsoft thinks it has a better idea: add Messaging Everywhere to an upcoming version of Skype for Windows 10 PCs.Microsoft commentator Brad Sams writes, "Skype barely works; let's add new features. Texting from your phone is cool, let's remove it. 0.0% people want this."
More of the Skype mentality: Taking something that could be implemented simply and cleanly - and using it to drag you kicking and screaming into an larger application that you hate.
Forget that "0.0% of people want this", as TFA states. We know what you want. We will help you want it.
I still receive texts from AIM friends that I can text reply to or reply from my PC. AOL has had this feature in instant messenger since pre-2006. How about do some research instead of trying to act like Apple invented everything.
It should read "from the 1.0% people using WIndows on Phones, 0.0% want this" is like: who freaking cares?
This is news about how to set the corpse's arms inside the coffin!
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I'm guessing Microsoft is doing this to get more people to use Skype. Obviously they have no idea why people don't like it. They need to stop adding features and rebranding and make the thing usable again. As it stands, it's just a cluster of various projects haphazardly bundled together. This will only make the problem worse.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
My wife has taken over the laptop, and she messages me a lot from the laptop. She'll be on some webpage and then send texts and things from a full keyboard.
If i have a phone, i have SMS. If I have a phone, i may or may not have Skype. If I actually had an MS Phone, this becomes a non-feature for me, and I'm pissed that MS decides to play these games.
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You spend 8 1/2 BILLION dollars on something,That is why you have a hardon for Skype.
In simple terms, they want Skype to do things, they can then monetize. They are idiots, and users are starting to leave Skype for other apps, like Hangouts, Slack and Telegram because Skype sucks donkey balls.
The problem for Microsoft is, they think they can bully people into their way of doing things, when the reality is that there are more reasons now than ever to avoid using MS crap.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
It's not the fault of the programmers. The programmers could do a radically better job, and I would even guess they'd prefer to.
You can't lay this blame at their feet. Look instead to the ones giving the marching orders: marketing and "business" people who believe that manipulating customers, vendor-lock-in, and closed protocols are the way to make money. And look even more to those customers who prove them correct.
Is it better for the users? Who cares? May be some linux user would care, "one more opportunity to pile on and make fun of the misfortunes of poor people stuck with Microsoft". Other than that ...
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I use Skype a lot but it can be very annoying sometimes
- Having an IM discussion that is replicated to my other Skype devices as unread messages. The annoyance is furthered by having all these unread messages show up as unread text messages on Windows mobile. This always causes me to panic for half a second when I see 40 unread text messages when I look at my phone.
- No easy way to mark unread messages as read in the desktop client. You have to click on the person's contact record and open the chat history... dumb!
- Browser integration. I disable this immediately. Why would you assume that I want to use Skype to call random numbers on a web page? Seriously... does anyone find this feature useful?
- kitchen-sink approach to software development... This is classic MS... create a huge monolithic app that does everything and nothing particularly well.
- No IM API for 3rd party chat client integration. TBF, no major chat client really allows this anymore (except FB I guess, but how long until that goes away too?)
- No cross compatibility between their Skype for Business (Lync) and Skype clients. If you are going to use the same product names, make them interoperable... it is too confusing otherwise...
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Google Voice anyone? Sending/receiving texts from every device since the beginning of time! Plus voice mailing and calling, too.
I've had that "dream" be a reality since I've been on Google Voice for at least eight years. I'm sure that Microsoft phone users could still retain this ability by using Hangouts and/or Google Voice.
Google Hangouts works on Android, IOS, Mac OS, Windows, Linux and whatever else you can run desktop Chrome on. The only odd man out is Windows Phone due to lack of cooperation from Microsoft.
Luckily, the number of people using Windows 10 mobile phones is rapidly approaching 0, so it's not like Microsoft is actually forcing anyone to do anything.
To Bolster Skype?
Surely you mean that Microsoft is actually doing this to bolder Google Hangouts Video?
That is what I started using when Skype was acquired by Microsoft. Skype support on Linux was already 2nd rate. Hangouts has first class video call support on Linux, Android and other platforms I use.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
They never had to deal with real competition and hence have no idea how to do it. So they keep buying stuff that works, weigh it down with useless crap and wonder why it sinks.
Another company that only survives 'cause of its monopoly position. In a real economy they'd die off so fast...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I thought Skype died about the same time as Google+
I have a WinNT 4.0 box with Winamp that I use to play music on; it's not networked, runs almost no power, and has almost permanent uptime.
It's on an old Barton-core 2500MHz athlon that draws ~20 watts, IIRC.
It's tied into the house A/V system, and runs from the same remote.
I keep what works, while I look for something better. :)
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Heh, and how many times did Google change how they do SMS in Android / ChromeOS ?
* SMS app
* Buys Grand Central and allows people to use Google Voice for SMS via web and app (I still use this today, mostly)
* Messages app
* Hey, maybe SMS integration in Google+ ? Oh, wait, no one really uses it.
* Hangouts app gets SMS integration on both web and app, and Google kinda starts deprecating all of the above.
* Hangouts app loses SMS integration, now you should use the Messenger app
* Oh, I guess people still use Google Voice, I suppose we might start maintaining it again until we decide to kill it for good.
It's not just about monetizing Skype. It's about promoting other products with exclusive features. Notice this new feature is Windows 10 only. Why? There's no technical reason it can't be done on Windows 7 or 8. They just want to give people another reason to move to 10.
Running around with his fingers in his ears, going "LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU" when people say to him "you are making stupid decisions, alienating your user base and generally fucking about in a bad way'
Its like.. they forgot their core business, and now all they care about is shitty little apps making money.
They cant even get the app store in windows 10 working properly and it breaks at every opportunity that requires a windows re-installation all because they don't even bother testing their patches. Skype barely works, they still haven't fixed its terrible user interface and the difference between close, exit and quit. Office 2016 still uses the office 2007 control panel interface with its broken font scaling.
Microsoft has utterly lost its shit. All they care about is the next micro feature in windows, while completely forgetting their entire microcosm is on the brink of falling to pieces.
So their solution is to ignore what people are saying.
Developing an deploying features that nobody wants......
Having M$ disable this feature is like having an Apple iPhone without a standard headphone jack.
Captain ridiculous coomparison called and said that comparison was insane.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Linked-In announced that it is shutting down in 2018.
Meanwhile the rest of us just continue using Viber and get on with our lives.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Why does Microsoft have such an obsessive hard-on for Skype?
I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with Skype's longstanding status as the NSA's wet dream [pdf warning].
"If there was a gay Afro-Puertorican Linux distribution, I'd give it a try" ~lucm
Does Apple bring new features to OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, or to iPhone OS 3? Does Google bring new features to Android 1.x, or how about Chrome 2.0?
Because those are the same as expecting Windows 7, released in 2009, to get new features 7 years later.
Besides, this article is about bringing a Windows 10 exclusive feature to an app that is cross platform. I don't think that it's confirmed that this feature is cross platform but it's certainly more plausible now than before.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
Skype is for kids. And not the smart kids either. The kids that think "Facebook is the internet" and the CD-ROM drive tray is a cupholder.
Skype is not part of the OS. It's an application.
I bought a phone in 2010 specifically to use Skype Mobile. The client stopped working not long after you shrubs got your sticky mitts on it. FIX IT, ASSHOLES!
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
Which was the point of my last paragraph.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
When Skype was its own company; it was much more reliable. As to the interface; the one from ten years ago was much more functional. These days they want the application to look like your desktop computer is a giant phone screen taking over all the screen real estate to emphasize the lack of functionality. Windoes needs to consider putting the windows back in their OS.
NRRPT/RCT
Who is this Microsoft you are talking about?
Is that the guy who stole money from me the last 4 times I bought a laptop? That guy said he would give me my money back but never did. I even got it in writing, but he said "sue me"... and I couldn't be bothered.
Yeah... I remember now. I hate that guy. He's very old and tired. Wish he would just die already.