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US Efforts To Regulate Encryption Have Been Flawed, Government Report Finds (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via The Guardian: U.S. Republican congressional staff said in a report released Wednesday that previous efforts to regulate privacy technology were flawed and that lawmakers need to learn more about technology before trying to regulate it. The 25-page white paper is entitled Going Dark, Going Forward: A Primer on the Encryption Debate and it does not provide any solution to the encryption fight. However, it is notable for its criticism of other lawmakers who have tried to legislate their way out of the encryption debate. It also sets a new starting point for Congress as it mulls whether to legislate on encryption during the Clinton or Trump administration. "Lawmakers need to develop a far deeper understanding of this complex issue before they attempt a legislative fix," the committee staff wrote in their report. The committee calls for more dialogue on the topic and for more interviews with experts, even though they claim to have already held more than 100 such briefings, some of which are classified. The report says in the first line that public interest in encryption has surged once it was revealed that terrorists behind the Paris and San Bernardino attacks "used encrypted communications to evade detection." Congressman Ted Lieu is pushing the federal government to treat ransomware attacks on medical facilities as data breaches and require notifications of patients.

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  1. FUCK YOU DORKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop insisting on unbreakable encryption. You're just helping terrorists and criminals while you hurt Americans. If you dorks didn't have anything illegal to hide, you wouldn't use unbreakable encryption. And no, I'm not worried about identity theft. I use Lifelock and, therefore, am immune from this.

  2. Develop a far deeper understanding by RabidReindeer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If legislators ever bothered to try and understand anything before passing laws about it, government as we know it would cease to exist.

    1. Re:Develop a far deeper understanding by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      we (as a species) will have some system of government where experts in their field are the ones who decide how best to regulate that field

      That's what we have in the financial industry now. Almost all of our financial regulations have been written by people who make their living in the field.

      Don't assume that expertise means caring what's best for society. It just means you know what's best for you. Technocracy can be an express train to dystopia.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
  3. Cross-advertising by LichtSpektren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please Slashdot editors, stop with the cross-story promotion. It makes sense if the two stories are directly related, not when the two stories hang in the same genre.

  4. right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doin by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Once the FBI started subverting TOR (developed by the Naval Research Lab to promote FREEDOM), hacking people's computers without warrents and demanding user data from ISPs without warrants, the US became a bad internet citizen and a de facto rogue state.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  5. I'd like to... by EmeraldBot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some perspective, people; we've had encryption in use for over 40 years, and the actual amount of people using it to escape prosecution is almost none. Furthermore, if we put in a backdoor, it's inevitably going to be discovered by the rest of the world, and we will wind up with a situation where anybody in the world can read traffic made by American citizens, but they can't read the rest of the worlds. How does it improve national security if the US's banking details are all in plaintext while the rest of the world's isn't? Not only doesn't it improve it, but it dramatically weakens it - if the US really winds up in a war against China or Russia or whatever, and they've figured out the secret, they can effectively spy on any data in the US, read any file. We all know there's no way people are going to upgrade after, so how exciting will it be when the entire infrastructure is easily hackable and no citizen's data will be secure?

    Second off, I'd like to point out this isn't going to yield us much benefit. If criminals can't communicate securely with computers, then they'll... use encryption anyway. If they constantly switch WiFi hot spots, use different computers and phones, only send brief messages, and use it for dead drops when they're not around, they have absolutely no possible risk, and the data remains unreadable anyways. And if even that is somehow, magically and impossibly, fixed, then they'll simply do it the old fashioned way; rely on (physical) coded messages, talk person to person, or use stenography or other measures to evade detection. They'll still successfully escape oversight, and it'll be even easier because now they'll be needles in a 300 million pound haystack.

    Finally, let's consider the kind of data they're after. They're probably going to want messages, personal videos, etc. from people - stuff that's actual communication. If the data is not stored on the phone, or the phone is destroyed, then... where is it? I know that I don't send the same email back and forth to a person for 30 days, and if neither of us have a copy, there'll be non-left anyways. Oh sure, maybe the server you say, but if we assume a criminal or spy willing to use advanced encryption, why exactly wouldn't they securely delete their messages after they've been read? We did it with burning papers, and once that message is gone, it's gone, encryption or not. Unless, of course, you propose to store every single message, video, and photograph that crosses US internet lines, and that is impossible with how much data there is. Also, how much crime is committed with just the internet? Law enforcement has access to criminal records, on seen evidence, bank records, security footage, witnesses, talking to family, and all manners of power; why would this hamper them? If the criminal is caught with his face bare on a security cam, we's convicted; if a spy blatantly and repeatedly does erratic things and snoops around, he's going to be caught also. Every country did it perfectly fine back in the 80's. Computers are (theoretically) a nice thing to have for this sort of purpose, but they don't contribute that much in the grand scheme. They simply make the inevitable a little quicker.

    In short, we have absolutely nothing to gain really, unless you want to go after the 2 or 3 people who used it, and we have the world to lose; people will lose confidence in our IT market, businesses will move to a place where they can store encrypted data legally, the US will become completely unsafe for sensitive records, the government can easily turn into an Orwellian tolitarian state, all of our information becomes accessible to an enemy in the event of a war, and everybody who's smart will find loopholes around this provision anyway. We are going to suffer if we ban encryption or require it to have a backdoor, we are going to suffer a lot, and if you've seen the results of humanity's past, irrational fear and hatred tend to produce pretty poor choices.

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    1. Re:I'd like to... by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Some perspective, people; we've had encryption in use for over 40 years, and the actual amount of people using it to escape prosecution is almost none.

      Encryption has been around for much longer than 40 years!

      "The earliest known text containing components of cryptography originates in the Egyptian town Menet Khufu on the tomb of nobleman Khnumhotep II nearly 4,000 years ago."
      -- "Past, Present, and Future Methods of Cryptography ", http://www.eng.utah.edu/~nmcdo...

    2. Re:I'd like to... by StormReaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...lots of reasoned arguments clipped...

      None of that matters. Not one bit. You are making the wrong arguments, regardless of how logical and well reasoned they are. It's just irrelevant.

      What matters is how you can push people's emotional buttons. The enemies of freedom (the FBI, CIA, GCHQ, etc.) are successfully pushing the "encryption equals terrorism" emotional lie onto an ignorant populace. Emotional lies trump reasoned truths every time.

      Emotional lies can be effectively countered with emotional truths, but cannot be countered with logical reasoning. Most people are not logical. For example, "The FBI's fight against freedom will expose your children to pedophiles" or, "GCHQ's war on privacy will make you a target of terrorists" will be more effective than debating within the TLAs' frameworks.

  6. Re:Classifed? Well, there's your problem by INT_QRK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not a moratorium on laws? Require a current law to drop for every new law passed? I'm only half joking here. Seriously, how long can we go on passing new laws every day of every year until every human activity is either against the law, or mandated by law? Freedom loses all meaning. We're essentially approaching an era of legal "whitelist" tyranny; all actions implicitly denied except those mandated. Then, just in order to live our lives we'll always be in violation of some laws, and "the law" will have no meaning beyond a pretext for enforcing political control.

  7. But the Paris attackers DIDNT use encryption by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Paris attackers did NOT use encryption!
    They used burner phones.
    The TLA's just tried to use encryption as the reason why their spy machines didn't detect squat, and to try force new encryption laws down peoples throats.

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    There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
    1. Re:But the Paris attackers DIDNT use encryption by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was going to say that but you beat me to it. The Paris attackers used burner phones and SMS. Unencrypted SMS. If worldwide police agencies can't detect the digital equivalent of postcards being sent through the mail, what makes them think that a) terrorists will care enough to go through the trouble to encrypt their communications and b) they could even find the supposedly encrypted messages when they're just tossing more hay on the pile while searching for the same needle.

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  8. Re:FTA: by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are more blurry than "Western Governments are good guys/other governments and hackers are bad guys", but the overall point is that even if you COULD trust all western governments to never abuse their encryption backdoor (a huge assumption), the mere presence of a backdoor would lead to hackers exploiting it. And, walking back the assumption, let's say you (for some reason) trust the current administration with an encryption backdoor. Do you trust the next one with it? What about the one after that? How long until an administration comes along that abuses the backdoor (whether Nixon-Whitewater level abuse or slowly encroaching on what is acceptable abuse)?

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    My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
  9. Ya Think?!?!? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...lawmakers need to learn more about technology before trying to regulate it...

  10. Ain't gonna happen... by seven+of+five · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With congress members already struggling to understand basic science issues such as the age of the earth and AGW, something like cryptography lies largely and forever out of their grasp...

  11. Really? No kidding! by bravecanadian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good luck regulating math, morons.

  12. Link about Paris and San Bernardino inadequate by Shadow+IT+Ninja · · Score: 4, Informative

    The link supporting the assertion that terrorists behind the Paris and San Bernardino attacks "used encrypted communications to evade detection." is not supported by the linked article. In the first place, the article is only about San Bernardino, not Paris. Second, it only says that authorities were trying to get access to encrypted data. In the San Bernardino case, there was encrypted data because the iPhone encrypts by default but there was no evidence released that the encrypted data contained anything relevant to the case. No article is linked about Paris. My understanding there was that French officials basically said that the terrorists must have encrypted there communication because they didn't detect anything. They offered no proof that encryption had been used. The assertion was like the one in San Bernardino - the suspects had used some encryption in the course of their regular use of technology, as most people do, but there was no definite statement that the encrypted communication had actually been used to plot attacks. Ars Technica reports no evidence of encryption being used.

  13. Translation by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    lawmakers need to learn more about technology before trying to regulate it.

    Translation: We need to fire these idiots and elect lawmakers that know more about the things they intend to regulate