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HP Rolls Out Device-as-a-Service for PCs, Printers (eweek.com)
HP says it plans to provide companies with personal computers and other devices as part of a service. Corporate customers of HP's new initiative dubbed "device-as-a-service" will be able to pay a fixed monthly fee per employee for devices, eliminating the need to pay the retail cost upfront for hardware. From a report on eWeek:The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company unveiled a DaaS (device-as-a-service) initiative, one that has already been up and running with several of its clients for the last few months. As more and more millennials come into the work force, they expect to see light, fast, small, and up-to-date tools to use, because that's what they're used to, and their tools are like a badge of honor, HPI's Vice-President and General Manager of Support Services Bill Avey said. "Older employees might want bigger screen and keyboards. The point is, work tools need to fit the work force, and as workforces become more diverse, the tools must adjust fit the needs," Avey said. Otherwise, Avey said, employees will find workarounds in so-called shadow IT (using their own laptops, smartphones, tablets and applications) to get the job done -- which is always a nightmare for enterprise security professionals.
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Once upon a time, we called this 'leasing'. But, whatever, call it something new and pretend it's a fantastic new thing.
Let's make them as dumb as they can be, just pay a company if it doesn't work and wait for that company to fail rather than internal failures.
It's all just shifting of work, it makes sense if they (HP) can build good systems but there is an issue in that what they are doing is so simple that it's hard to justify paying hundreds per month for it.
I'd rather just see something like the opposite of CUPS. The reality is that cunts are taking over the Internet for the sake of rich people.
Shifting capital costs to an operational cost? That interferes with our enterprise's whole tax strategy! Someone ought to make this kind of thievery illegal!
Nothing like going from basically founding Silicon Valley to competing with the likes of Aaron's and Rent-A-Center!
Just shut down, HP, you're embarrassing yourself.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Hardware isn't expensive at all. PC's can be had for next to nothing. It's the software that costs the real $$! And considering computer hardware generally doesn't wear out, it's a no-brainer for us to buy cheap hardware, and save our IT money for good software.
I don't respond to AC's.
Seriously, this is how the copier industry used to operate. It went under for a reason.
Silliness...
In all of the organizations I worked in over my 15 year I.T. career, we were never able to defend from all of those "shadow IT" computers employees would bring from home. I mean, despite corporate policy specifying against doing that, there's just no possible way to prevent rogue Mac, Linux and Commodore 64 computers from joining secure domains and having complete access to the network.
Thank you, HP, for saving us all!
(insert eye roll here)
If you see "X as a service", especially in an advert, replace X with "sodomy".
Because you are so totally going to get fucked up the arse. And charged for it.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Watching HP today is akin to watching an A-list actress go from staring in blockbuster movies to walking the streets as a $5 crack whore.
Everything you have is 'rented' or 'leased', save consumables. Your house, your car, your phone, your computer, your furniture, even the clothes on your back are 'rented' or 'leased' to you for a monthly fee. I'm sure there are plenty of corporations out there that would love that world, where they have a guaranteed monthly income that is not dependent on sales, just lock everyone into lease contracts for everything they own. And, naturally, since you don't own any of it, you have zero rights to do what you want with it, and the 'owner' has 100% rights, so you have to put up with whatever their decisions are. Ads in your face 24/7/365? Keystroke logging? Tracking of viewing habits? Tracking of your location and activities? It's all in the lease agreement you had to sign in order to have even a place to live.
Talk about your dystopian futures! All the above of course is mere fiction. It's more like something I'd expect from the world of Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash than anything in the real world. But it doesn't mean that some corporate types don't have these thoughts, either..
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
Previously, you'd buy an HP inkjet and you'd really just paid an entry fee to be able to buy ink from them on a regular basis.
Presumably this deal extends beyond inkjet printers, and the payments are more-regularly-scheduled than average.
"As more and more millennials come into the work force, they expect to see light, fast, small, and up-to-date tools to use, because that's what they're used to, and their tools are like a badge of honor," HPI's Vice-President and General Manager of Support Services Bill Avey said. "Older employees might want bigger screen and keyboards."
I want a pony -- a small one that gets bigger as I get older.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
HP is simply letting app appers app apps while apping other apps, which is perfectly appy! Only LUDDITES want to own their actual LUDDITE computer.
Apps!
...come into the work force, they expect TROPHYS!!!! TROPHYS!!!
Please be sensitive and caring or they will cry.
Just wait for the rent a car ding and dent bs to come. Just hope they don't give a system with an 5-6 year old HDD that wears out and then you need pay the full price of a new disk + an lost of use fee.
It's already happening with software and electronics; it's already happening with cars (especially Teslas); it's starting to happen with everything else (i.e., everything infected with "IoT" bullshit). The DMCA and other parts of copyright law are being used as a lever to usurp actual property rights, the Uniform Commercial Code and the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Where does it end?
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Fans getting clogged up / failing as well.
PSUs going bad.
Nothing new just rebranded
and the lease fee ensures a higher level of profit, as HP becomes a finance company as well as equipment supplier. I'd avoid it like WinX
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
IBM, HP, DEC, etc all did that on "too big to carry" equipment.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
An especially fucktardic business model: product-as-a-service. You give money for a device, but essentially don't own it withou brand's blessing
Perhaps the differentiator is that they set up and manage the devices too?
Still a lease. Might have a service contract attached to the lease but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Any computer without moving parts shouldn't wear out.
The might not "wear" out but they do fail. Moving parts are just one failure mode among many.
Hell, most PC's with some moving parts don't fail for the first 20 years or so.
Since very few PCs remain in service for 20 years I'm not really sure where you are getting this data. Yes there are some out there but the average age of a PC is supposedly around 5 years. Laptops tend to wear out sooner than desktops. Even if the machine could remain alive for 20 years the software in most cases would be obsolete and unsupported long before you reached 20 years of service. A Windows PC from 20 years ago would have been running Windows 95 or NT. Tell me how many of those you've run into in the last 5 years.
IBM, DEC, HP, etc became wealthy on the model of owning the hardware and software and leasing it along with service agreements to businesses. This worked very well FOR THEM, but for most businesses and individuals this was a nasty abusive thing.
Apple and Microsoft, etc became the new super-rich companies by upending that model. They SOLD a customer hardware and/or software which the user then owned and could use in perpetuity without paying anything more. People and businesses could administer, maintain, and replace stuff at will and on their own schedules instead of on somebody else's schedule. The era of the service guy showing up on HIS schedule and following a marketing-based behavioral script to bamboozle the customers into buying more, in place of an actual expert doing real and necessary maintenance/service ended. This ignited the PC Revolution which eventually forced all the big old vendors to either adopt the model of more user freedom and control, or die as an obsolete dinosaur.
As companies like Apple and Microsoft and Adobe, etc hit the market saturation point, they started to see the value of the old model as a way to show ever-growing revenue without an ever-growing market and they started re-branding it with new names like "the cloud".
Younger users,gullible and ignorant of the past, do not seem to realize the ride they are being taken on and just how hard it was to escape that old foul business model. If you do not own the hardware and the software then you do not own the data either; you are at the mercy of somebody else for security, maintenance, service, etc.
As more and more millennials come into the work force, they expect to see light, fast, small, and up-to-date tools to use, because that's what they're used to, and their tools are like a badge of honor
Or how about they use the right tool for job, as determined by people who have actually been doing the fucking job? And how is a tool, be it a computer or airhammer or ratchet or saw a "badge of honor"? What the hell is this stuffed suit babbling about?
Older employees might want bigger screen and keyboards
Unless the "job" is posting on social media all day, watching cat videos, or sending pictures of your junk to strangers you meet on apps, what real work can anyone of any age or demographic actually get done on a mobile device? If your job involves creating content, code, spreadsheets, documents, really anything at all, how can you do it efficiently without a real screen and keyboard? I really doubt "millennials" or anyone else are so special that they can be productive pounding on a sheet of glass like a monkey.
When I read the headline I thought it said "Disaster-as-a-service".
Even though it's been 3 years since I worked for them I think the 13 years that I did spend there could be best summed up by that phrase.
Andy Warhol got it right / Everybody gets the limelight
Andy Warhol got it wrong / Fifteen minutes is too long.
That will lower the cost of infecting enterprise PC for NSA: no need to craft an exploit like Stuxnet, just infect the hardware that gets shipped.
Shit, Dell was doing this deal with GE 8 or so years ago. This is just another HP hype, but their stock is still hopeless.
Life is in a state of dynamic equilibrium, it both blows and sucks
The new word for "rental".
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It's what makes that productive that matters. They will often want things that have little to no production value and they may ask very loudly for these things.
That's not reason to give them to them anymore than it's a reason to give a child candy merely because they are persistently asking. The fact of the matter is small gadget have proven to have little production value. Even smartphones don't live up to but a tiny fraction of what you'd think they could/would do and do so rapidly.
Gadges willt sell, but like smartphones it's a downward spiral in profits as people realize the limits of what they can do and thus the value in them. Tablets and smartphones have a long long way to go to live up to what they should be able to do and honestly what they should have been able to do years ago. I'm not impressed by any of the mobile technology one bit and I don't believe most people are. The mobile market if deflating overall as people realize there is no need to pay 500+ dollars for a tiny computer that has limited roles and doesn't even deliver well at those. This applies to all the mobile OSs. If anything Windows 10 Mobile is the easiest to use, but lacks apps and general support from the market. Android is confusing splintered crap and perhaps the most insecure mass installed OS in the world.