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Theranos Faces Congressional Inquiry Over Faulty Blood Tests (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The U.S. House of Representatives sent a letter to blood analysis startup Theranos asking for them to explain their failure in providing accurate results to patients using its proprietary blood test technology. The company has faced serious backlash after government and regulatory agencies questioned the results of their proprietary 'Edison' machine, that the company claimed could detect hundreds of diseases using a single drop of blood. Not only have the feds proposed banning founder and CEO Elizabeth Holmes and the company president Sunny Balwani from the blood-testing business for two years, but Holmes' net worth has been cut from $4.5 billion to zero. Most recently, Walgreens decided to cut ties with the company. House Democrats Frank Pallone, Gene Green and Diana DeGette sent the letter on June 30th, asking Holmes to explain what went wrong, what steps the company is taking to help medical professionals and patients who might have been affected by the manipulated results, and how Theranos plans to comply with regulators. "Given Theranos' disregard for patient safety and its failure to immediately address concerns by federal regulators, we write to request more information about how company policies permitted systemic violations of federal law," reads the letter. Theranos says it plans to clear things up with these lawmakers.

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  1. Put that bitch in Jail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are we even bothering with enquiries?

    There is so much documented fraud.

    One county. Two classes.

  2. I smell a rotten fish by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How in the world did these people get a license to begin with? Well. now we got this, and the MRI fiasco. I'm trying to figure out what's next on the list.

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    1. Re:I smell a rotten fish by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Informative

      How in the world did these people get a license to begin with?

      Bribes.

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    2. Re: I smell a rotten fish by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      The same way Tesla is allowed to put "beta" autonomous driving abilities into a production car.

      How else do you expect them to test it?

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    3. Re:I smell a rotten fish by Noble713 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How in the world did these people get a license to begin with?

      Have you looked at Theranos' Board of Directors? It's stacked with seriously connected people from the Military-Industrial Complex. Who knows what kind of strings they pulled.

  3. The real question we should ask by fred911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is why CMS paid and continued to allow Theranos to accept tests that were being subbed out, basically just scalping a profit.

      There will away be snake-oil sellers where there are buyers with more money than sense but isn't that WHY CMS WAS CREATED??

    It's yet another amazing wholesale fleecing of taxpayer by members of "the club".

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  4. Small Government? by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With the "small government" approach the scam would continue.
    "Libertarians" take note.
    Being free to scam others without consequence doesn't do a lot for the liberty of those being scammed.

    1. Re:Small Government? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      "Libertarians" take note.
      Being free to scam others without consequence doesn't do a lot for the liberty of those being scammed.

      It's not that libertarians think companies should be free to scam others without consequence. It's that they believe that by applying the magical fairy-dust of a "free market" that nobody will be able to scam because competition will create a perfect utopia where all the billionaires are good, the criminals are beautiful and the CEOs are all above average.

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    2. Re:Small Government? by NotAPK · · Score: 2

      "Regular people didn't lose any money from this."

      No, they just lost their health and dignity.

      Those living in the US really need to watch this. The guy's manner makes me cringe a bit, but his message and subject matter are both absolutely stunning.

    3. Re:Small Government? by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The guy's manner makes me cringe a bit

      People should remember that he makes polemics and not balanced documentaries. It doesn't make what he says any less true it just means he is pushing a single point of view very hard. Things that do not support his points of view will not be in his films but there are plenty of other places that support other points of view.

    4. Re:Small Government? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some libertarians have a naïve belief that in a free market, good honest companies will always prevail over fraudsters. And they are not completely wrong... in the long run. Fraud generally is discovered eventually and bad companies get replaced with better ones, but often not before massive damage has been wrought. And where one fraudster succeeds even for a while, others will try and follow in his footsteps.

      Which is why other libertarians do see a role for government to provide some ground rules and provide oversight to actually enforce those rules. Even if only because it's far cheaper than letting fraudsters run wild.

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    5. Re:Small Government? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In a Libertarian Utopia, this sort of scam would have been less likely because nobody would have assumed that the FDA and other taxpayer funded agencies were doing their job and looking out for the public interest, when they actually weren't.

      It sounds like what you're really saying is that in the absence of an FDA nobody would have ever known the blood tests were bogus.

      But you bring up an interesting feature of a libertarian world: there can be no trust when it comes to anything that exceeds the expertise of the consumer. And there can be no trust of any new technology. Who's going to be the first to try radiation therapy for a tumor or a self-driving car?

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  5. Go deep - if guilty, nail them and jail them! by ebusinessmedia1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sunny Balwani and Elizabeth Holmes; the Theranos Board; all Theranos investors; and, Theranos strategic partners and suppliers ALL need to be investigated regarding their knowledge of potential fraud and collusion. If evidence is gained showing intentional fraud from*any* one of the foregoing, jail them!

  6. What went wrong by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "House Democrats Frank Pallone, Gene Green and Diana DeGette sent the letter on June 30th, asking Holmes to explain what went wrong,"

    What went wrong is they got caught. That's what "went wrong".

    This was all just a "magic snake oil" scheme designed to suck in wealthy, gullible investors, nothing more, nothing less.

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    1. Re:What went wrong by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What went wrong is they got caught. That's what "went wrong".

      It is almost certainly more complicated than that. There is no way that a fraud like this could actually work in the long run, and any sensible investor would know that. What is more likely is that Elizabeth really thought her tech would work, hyped it to get capital, thus inflating expectations. Then she had too much pride to back down when the tech failed, so she started fudging a little, to buy time to fix the problems. But she couldn't fix the problems, so she then had a choice to either admit failure, and admit to the initial fudging, or ... dig deeper. Just like Bernie Madoff, she grabbed a shovel.

    2. Re:What went wrong by Cylix · · Score: 2

      There was never a question about Madoff going straight to scam. It wasn't until the pyramid scheme fell did he get caught.

      This was just insanity and there was never an avenue for it succeed. There are no fudge lines in testing and anyone at any point could proven the product did not work. Which is what happened.

      It never worked and either the people involved were criminal or criminally stupid.

      I'm going to bet on a whole lot of sociopaths got together. It's still unlikely any of them will see jail time so looks like it panned out!

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  7. She gave off all the classic signs. by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First she was making it all about her, not about brilliant scientists, but about her her her. Second is that the stuff about her was all about how she is better than the rest of us. Admitted to the top university, gets up 2 hours before she goes to bed, works 28 hour days; basically all that in your face, I am better than you Type-A bullshit.

    But the icing on the cake is that after she had raised funds from non-pharma types she just kept promoting. I could barely crack a science publication or a science section in any publication with her single drop of blood hype.

    Where I am from the government is huge on being able to "pick a winner" so about twice a year I see the same micro-bubble that is hype hype hype with some front man, usually some vaguely good story about rubber that will make tires good for 300,000km. Then a nice line-up of vaguely important local investors. And just before it all blows up they are in some local business publication with the title "Top 40 under 40' or some other bullshit.

    Then it all goes to hell, there are recriminations about government money in the toilet, a useless audit, and then it is forgotten as the latest batch of sure thing winners follow down the same path.

    While all this is amusing/enraging; the worst part is that she has now made it nearly impossible for any legitimate company to actually do this research. If some real bio-researcher comes up with some blood tests needing only one drop they won't get one investor to take their calls or conferences to let them talk. They might as well work on cold fusion or herbal cancer cures.

    1. Re:She gave off all the classic signs. by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. Nobody is that brilliant. The really great ones either made their name using low-hanging fruits (nothing wrong with that, but there are none left these days) or took decades. It is also not about working an insane amount of time. Solid research shows that you can do about 6 hours of solid mental work a day and that is it. But you get these hours only if you do not work many more and take the weekends off. And nobody is exempt from that, even is some huge-ego morons claim they are.

      The new thing here is that now women try to promote that faulty self-image as well (see. g.e. Marissa Mayer) and fail, just the same as the men that try it.

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    2. Re:She gave off all the classic signs. by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have met so many Marissa Mayers in my life and every one of them left a horrible taste in my mouth. When they look at a person it is only to see if they are someone they can use. If not you can actually see the person vanish from their perception. But if the person is someone they can use as another run in their ladder climbing, their eyes light up and the wheels are turning. With women it often manifests with this sudden becoming of what their target is looking for. Sports hero, lover, tease, politically astute, listener, etc

      The second they find a higher rung, the earlier rung is discarded like chewed gum.

      What pisses me off about these types is that even when the people they have wronged finally are able to expose them, they somehow land in more success. I have personally witnessed one case where the woman was pretty much thrown to the street in disgrace by a collective action of upper management and the entire board of directors, yet a few months later I read that she was appointed to be on the board of directors of a large monopoly and later was a board member on a number of other companies. All high paying board memberships with many juicy privileges. All that with not a single person who would have anything but nasty things to say about her. She even ripped off the person who bought her house. How the hell?

      So in the case of this single drop of blood woman as well as Marissa Mayer, I predict a horribly long successful future where they go from organization to company turning them into complete crap and somehow being able to maintain a straight face while declaring success. Failures that will swell their bank accounts.

    3. Re:She gave off all the classic signs. by monkeyxpress · · Score: 2

      Well said. Same happens in New Zealand. There is a startup incubator in Auckland that goes on endlessly about picking winners. This allows them to suck up vast amounts of government money earmarked for startups to feed into its staff salaries and fancy offices. Rather annoying for people with actual startups who have to compete with their vast PR machine for any seed money.

      Problem is, most genuine startup founders are busy trying to get a real product out to customers that works. In my experience in both startups and large companies, this aspect of a company (actually making a working product) is mostly over looked. People just assume that if you 'go to China' or 'hire some consultants' the actual product will magic itself together. You can see this everyday on Kickstarter where a whole bunch of great ideas people discover making stuff with a reject rate that doesn't sink your company is no simple matter.

      Over 20 years being in this game though, I've noticed an interesting trend - you don't really need investor money anymore, at least to get to the point of putting a working product in a customer's hand. Capital costs on things like hardware are lower then ever, and if your founders are technical and prepared to put in some sweat equity, you can get a long way before you even need to put money down. This has fashionably been called 'lean startups' but it is basically the way Apple/Google/MS/FB/HP etc all started.

      Once you have cashflow/customers, you can get the attention of investors and cut through all the hype-merchants much easier.

  8. What went wrong, Nothing went wrong by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Failure what failure. Everything went according to typical psychopathic capitalism plans, privatise the profits and socialise the losses. Things only went wrong if the insiders lost money running the scam, if they generated millions in personal profits, then that is exactly the way, free market psychopathic capitalism is meant to work. As for health insurance companies who refuse to pay, or charter schools that abuse children or military contractors that foment war or security organisation spying for economic advantage for corrupt insiders, etc. etc. Everything is functioning exactly as designed, maximise short term profits, fuck everything else and dump the losses and problems on the idiots that vote the lessor evil, election after election, gumbys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... (they are laughing at you and make no mistake).

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    1. Re:What went wrong, Nothing went wrong by Ramze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's the thing... the CEO didn't cash out her chips before the value of her stock in the company hit zero. I'm sure she got a lovely salary, but she could have made out like a bandit if she'd sold earlier. Her mistake was thinking she could play magician forever w/ the slight of hand and sensationalism.

      It's a shame corporations can't be thrown in jail for fraud like people... shame we can't at least put the CEO in jail for massive, obvious fraud -- at least to her shareholders if not to the public, too.

    2. Re:What went wrong, Nothing went wrong by monkeyxpress · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The other possibility is that she also was played. You see this regularly in the property developer market - banks need someone charismatic to lend money too (which creates profit for them), but who is stupid/egoist enough to not wonder why this friendly bank guy is giving them all this money. The banks charm them into securing whatever earthly possessions they and their grandma have against these loans, and ensure the bank is first tier lender. While things are booming this money feeding machine makes the banks huge profits. When the bubble pops, the banks quickly liquidate the guy, recover their part of the loans, and leave the second tier lenders and bankrupted developer to wear the losses.

      If she didn't setup a private trust and move a few million into it when she was a billionaire, then she really does seem like the sort of gullible charismatic puppet bubble investors look for.

    3. Re:What went wrong, Nothing went wrong by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      If she did that, she'd definitely end up in club fed for several years. It wouldn't surprise me if there's a silent partner that knew the score and has made bank while she mostly gets to walk away because it doesn't look like she profited from any of this. The whole thing can be made to look completely above board if the payout is in the form of a well-paying position at a company owned by this silent partner. Everything else is just pageantry and theater to keep people from looking to closely at the magician's hands while this trick is being performed.

  9. Re: I remembe seeing her on TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You feel terrible for a fraudster. I have a great investment opportunity for you.

  10. Re:I remembe seeing her on TV by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    that the company claimed could detect hundreds of diseases using a single drop of blood.

    bleeding edge bio-tech

    Too bad it turned out to be bleeding edge marketing, and now people are out for blood.

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  11. Re:I remembe seeing her on TV by gweihir · · Score: 2

    If it sounds too good to be true, it it almost always is. Nobody at that age has that kind of skills. It takes high potential, will and decades of experience to get to a point where you can make even significantly smaller breakthroughs than claimed here these days. My guess is that the youth-madness that pervades society has made too many people utterly blind to the realities.

    Now, I do not actually think she is a fraudster. If she was one, she would have sold the company at the first good offer (and there must have been quite a few if Forbes valued her at 4.5 Billion). I think she had a good idea, but youth and inexperience prevented her to see its limitations and how much ruther R&D was actually required. Add to that, that as a female "wunderkind", she had probably quite a few (not too bright) fans among people with money early on. In essence, she may have gotten funded into failure, when a decade or two of solid research may actually have had some useful results that would have held up in practice.

    The other thing that may have been at work here is an almost hysterical search for new heroes that can "make America great again". That one is not going to happen. Everybody successful today is a global actor, even if that is sometimes hard to see.

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  12. Re:Ah Yes by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    If we start holding CEOs accountable, the terrorists have already won.

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  13. Re:Grandstanding and bias by Njorthbiatr · · Score: 2

    Quit falling for the smear campaign, it's unsightly.

    Whether or not Theranos is guilty of the claims is irrelevant. You're deciding she's guilty before they've even presented any real evidence based solely on hearsay. Not that you should trust the evidence presented in court.

  14. Re: I remembe seeing her on TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You feel terrible for a fraudster.

    That's not fraud. It's simply millenial over-self-confidence making its inevitable acquaintance with reality.

    They almost certainly believed in their idea originally. The point at which it became fraud is the point at which they started using other people's machines with diluted blood against the specification. She wasn't a "fraudster" to begin with but it really looks, from the media reports, like she has become one.

    It's a hard lesson for life, but there's a point where what looks grey and just "enhancing your business opportunities" suddenly turns out to be completely black and clearly fraud. You have already stepped over that line when you start carrying out medical procedures such as blood tests in ways which haven't been verified to work.

  15. Re:Grandstanding and bias by lucm · · Score: 2

    Whose money did they take, and what didn't work?

    You talk as if we were in a post-Enron analysis situation, but that's not the case at all. First they're still in business, still making money doing regular tests at a lower price than the competition (which I start to believe is the root cause of this whole charade). They're still doing research and perfecting their process and technologies, with the goal not to detect cancer from a drop of blood, but to lower even more the cost of blood tests.

    As for investors: this is a private company and we don't know what they share or didn't dhare with their private investors, and we don't know what kind of return they get on their money, what kind of deal they made. How come everyone is talking as if it was a few retiress who had lost their savings in a Ponzi scheme? Because outsiders claimed it was "worth" billions at one point, and zero later on?

    This is all bullshit.

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  16. Re: I remembe seeing her on TV by AuMatar · · Score: 2

    Exactly. If she had raised money, failed, and not tried to sell the product anyway then its just failure. Feeling sorry for her is reasonable.

    But she raised money, failed, hid her failure, and then pretended it was working while giving inaccurate test results. That's fraud.

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  17. The market is not magical by dbIII · · Score: 2

    Yet the FBI is still using lie detectors.
    Iraq is only now removing the placebo bomb detectors that were found to be worthless five years ago.
    Anti-vaxxers are rife despite it being based on a fraud by an English doctor who wanted to sell the alternative vaccine that he had patented.
    There's a long list of frauds that do not suddenly go away because of the "magic of the market".