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Millions of Chinese Stream Reality Shows Starring Themselves (bloomberg.com)

Lulu Yilun Chen, reporting for Bloomberg: Pole dancing, bungee jumping, a woman eating maggots: at any given hour, millions of Chinese are live-streaming all of this and much more on their smartphones. Crazes come and go at neck-snapping speed in the world's largest online marketplace, but China's live-streaming phenomenon shows staying power and is already a significant business. Tiny startups and internet giants alike are making money selling virtual gifts -- flowers, cars, toys -- to people keen to reward their favorite live-streamers. As the business matures, Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and others may start selling ads on the most popular streams. "This isn't a fad that will disappear, as the business model has proven to be viable," said Zhu Xiaohu, managing partner at GSR Ventures Management Co., who invested in Inke, one of about 200 live-streaming startups that have attracted an estimated $750 million in venture capital. "But the amount of interest in this sector is so high, bubbles could be forming and many will fail."

42 comments

  1. Great Firewall a "good thing"? by roger_that · · Score: 1

    Is this a case where the great firewall of China could be a "good thing", containing all these films to China?

    1. Re:Great Firewall a "good thing"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the Great Firewall was designed to keep stuff out of China, not to stop Chinese content from getting out. It doesn't need to work in that direction, because they can control what content gets created in the first place.

  2. Don't put this on your resume... by DogDude · · Score: 1

    ... Zhu Xiachu.

    "This isn't a fad that will disappear, as the business model has proven to be viable," said Zhu Xiaohu, managing partner at GSR Ventures Management Co.

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  3. Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do I watch these shows and contribute money to my favorite stars?

    1. Re: Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U go to China and hopefully dont come back

  4. Maybe it is a good thing? by mlts · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It may sound crazy, but with people making stuff and putting it on Youku Tudou, it just may be something that gets honed and becomes a positive thing for the Chinese culture for the long term. As time goes on, things get more refined and professional. It also gets more people involved in theater and the arts, and this is always a good thing. This is how new forms of entertainment (be it jazz, vaudeville, opera, etc.) are created.

    I wouldn't be surprised if 100 years from now, videos on YouTube and similar sites are regarded with high esteem, similar to how movies made in the early part of the 20'th century evoke nostalgia.

    1. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It also gets more people involved in theater and the arts, and this is always a good thing. This is how new forms of entertainment (be it jazz, vaudeville, opera, etc.) are created.

      Times sure have changed if pole dancing and maggot eating are considered the modern equivalent of vaudeville or opera....

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    2. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But there isn't anything "new" on YouTube. What you get is someone starting a hype, then a billion people copying it. And not even the first one to do it was usually original.

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    3. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Times sure have changed if pole dancing and maggot eating are considered the modern equivalent of vaudeville or opera...

      I don't know, they sound similar to me. Would I rather eat maggots or listen to opera ... it's a toss-up, really.

    4. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://thecomicscomic.com/2016...

      ""They think they’re being funny. 'Look at me, I’m mouthing along to a Diana Ross song and I’m a white guy.' It's seventh-grade humor, and it's full on hittable" as a target for mockery. "This is something your uncle does drunk in front of your family," he said, and just because that uncle is replaced by a celebrity doesn't make it any more enjoyable suddenly."

    5. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Nah, all of these are subject to the Ministry of Culture and can be shut down at any time. There will be little lasting impact from the larva eaters. The Communists know they are harming the growth of their own culture by doing this, but it is a deliberate decision. Stability is more important than culture. Culture can lead a culture off the cliff, China has seen it before. One can only wish that more "enlightened" countries would put the brakes on some of our more crazy fundamentalists. But no, we have the stupid free speech thing which is only ever invoked to save people who belong in jail anyway.

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    6. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be surprised if 100 years from now, videos on YouTube and similar sites are regarded with high esteem, similar to how movies made in the early part of the 20'th century evoke nostalgia.

      Just because Youtube allows everyone to smell your farts, it doesn't mean the farts smell any better.

      Anyway, people have been making home movies for decades, and uploading them to the Internet since the '90s. Youtube is just the Apple of its market segment.

    7. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vaudeville brought us the "pie in the face". Are you really saying that's "high brow" compared to maggot eating?

    8. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      Those more enlightened* countries won't act because their populations are too distracted with social media, television, sports matches and the like. It looks like China has evolved to adopt this more refined form of mass control, letting the masses too entertained to rebel, while they contribute with data for mass surveillance. The next step is breaking the Communist Party in two, so as to give people an illusion of choice and one more thing to crave for.


      * I don't use quotation marks, as the Enlightenment was a western thing

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    9. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i find it to be the opposite. i haven't watched cable tv for years. youtube is pretty much all i watch now. there are almost endless facets in youtube you can dig around. traditional tv is no competition at all.

    10. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The YT videos that annoy me greatly are the ones where every single breath of air is spent on 80% mindless babble just to fill air time, as if a brief pause was going to kill puppies. Some of those people are pretty popular, somehow.

    11. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Popular China, YouTube watches you;

    12. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    13. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by real+gumby · · Score: 1

      Times sure have changed if pole dancing and maggot eating are considered the modern equivalent of vaudeville or opera....

      Vaudville was considered cheap entertainment at its time, and both pole dancing and maggot eating would have fit right in. Come to think of it I'm pretty sure both must have appeared on the vaudeville stage at some point.

      Opera was the spectacle of its age (in essence the Michel Bay of its time) exploiting whatever advanced technology was possible, and plenty had risque lyrics (not necessarily Aïda, or any Wagner, but Mozart wrote plenty of opera buffa). Broadway shows are its natural heir. Tickets weren't cheap like vaudeville but that was because technology was expensive, not because it was in any way highbrow.

      There's tons of great (and crappy) classical music, but a bunch of pretentous loser fans fucked it up early in the 20th century. If you think of Mozart and Lady Gaga as roughly equivalent smart pop musicians you will have a more accurate perspective.

      Actually I prefer Lady Gaga to Mozart, but I prefer the sublime Bach and Grateful Dead to them both.

    14. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how does one find content? I feel dirty just slogging through the garbage. I have no interest in watching six hundred 2 minute clips.

    15. Re:Maybe it is a good thing? by Andtalath · · Score: 1

      Got me listening to Bach.
      Thanks =)

  5. We've been living in a post scarcity world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is more entertainment than anyone can ever enjoy. There is more knowledge than anyone can ever learn. We have been living in a post-scarcity world for quite some time, but the Internet shows us what's available. In a way that is great, but it's also a bit like the Total Perspective Vortex from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    1. Re:We've been living in a post scarcity world by zawarski · · Score: 1

      No, there is a surplus of crap. Neither entertaining or enjoyable.

    2. Re:We've been living in a post scarcity world by losfromla · · Score: 1

      That's a very subjective statement. IMHO ;-)

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  6. Next Up... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "In this segment, I will overthrow our totalitarian government, and install democracy..."

    1. Re:Next Up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something about Hilary Clinton.
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    2. Re:Next Up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Trump

  7. Really? by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    If millions of Chinese stream reality shows starring themselves, that would mean that there are millions of Chinese on reality shows, would it not? Seems pretty excessive, even for a country with the population of China.

  8. I, for one by myoparo · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new Chinese pole dancing, maggot-eating overlords!

  9. 'Regular' Chinese TV == crap? by kheldan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The question I have, not living in or ever having visited China, is: Are their 'regular' TV shows there utter, unwatchable crap? If so then it would begin to explain why viewer-generated content like this would be so popular.

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    1. Re:'Regular' Chinese TV == crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well other than the usual singing competitions and reality shows, there is a continuous tsunami of anti-Japanese propaganda WWII drama(s). Seriously, you can have 3 separate channels playing different anti-jap shows at the same time.

    2. Re:'Regular' Chinese TV == crap? by Piata · · Score: 2

      It definitely explains why America spawned Youtube.

    3. Re:'Regular' Chinese TV == crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is a lot of crap, but there are also quality programs that a lot of people watch, just like western tv.
      in fact, quality of chinese tv has improved considerable compared to 20 years ago. at that time hong kong and taiwan tv reigned supreme in the mainland. those were the golden time of hk cinema, but nowadays most hk movie stars will go to the mainland for a more profitable career.

  10. What is the saying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does it go again? "A billion people in China couldn't care less."

  11. Attention Whores, Start Your Engines! by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    The shameless attention-whore culture is being monetized.

    "Look at me me me me meeeeeeeeeeeeee, look at me!!"
    (Congratulations User, you've just made 9 cents! Please continue attention-whoring to keep earning.)

    "Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! Look at me dance, watch me eat breakfast, watch me break up with my boyfriend for the 27th time! Look at meeee!"
    (Congratulations User, you've just made 11 cents! Please continue attention-whoring to keep earning.)

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    1. Re:Attention Whores, Start Your Engines! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what a movie star is? Just an attention whore we've all decided to pay attention to?

      This is decentralization. Every aspiring actor is now given a platform and the public gets to decide who is worthy of attention or not now rather than movie studios.

  12. On my channel... by Jack_the_Tripper · · Score: 1

    I live stream myself watching people live stream themselves FTW!

    1. Re:On my channel... by losfromla · · Score: 1

      I've thought about doing something like this...
      Actually, didn't "America's Funniest Videos" do it first? Also there is some "Fail" channel or some such as well that does well enough to have employees whose job it is to look for appropriate videos...

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  13. Genious level people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somewhere I recall hearing something about the population of China being so great and dense that they have more genius-level citizens than the U.S. has of people whom are at any-level intelligence (high or low). Maybe I'm wrong but millions of self-staring reality shows sounds like the collective level of vanity in China is high, which is not what I'd call intelligent. Am I thinking of the wrong country here?

  14. Fads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "This isn't a fad that will disappear, as the business model has proven to be viable" The same could be said about beanie babies. Once you see two people eating maggots you've seen enough people eating maggots. It will likely take longer than other fads, but it will eventually fall out of favor too. That doesn't mean you can't make a lot of money off it, just that you should never trust Zhu Xiaohu nor GSR Ventures Management Co for market advice.

  15. millions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So who's started making the ultimate internet-tv-guide, in all 429 major languages?

    Or a streaming-on-demand service ( subscription supported, small fee ) to view any one
    of millions of web shows?

    Or has everyone who started looking at it fallen into a drooling captive state of mind?