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Entire Federal Government Exempt From Robocall Laws, FCC Rules (thehill.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via The Hill: Late Tuesday night, the Federal Communications Commission ruled that the entire federal government is exempt from consumer protection laws that limit unwanted robocalls. They ruled that the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 doesn't apply to the federal government, while the law does bar businesses from making numerous autodialed or prerecorded calls to a person's cellphone. The FCC did also make contractors working on behalf of the government exempt from the law as well. Earlier this year, a Supreme Court case found that the law does not apply to the government because of sovereign immunity. However, the FCC ruled that the government falls outside the law's definition of a "person." "Indeed, had Congress wanted to subject the federal government to the TCPA, it easily could have done so by defining 'person' to include the federal government," according to the ruling. Therefore, contractors hired by members of Congress can robocall individuals to participate in town halls, government researchers can place autodialed calls to the cellphones of survey respondents, and contractors can make similar calls to offer information about social security. The ruling does not apply to lawmakers who are using the calls for political campaigns.

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  1. Well with Hillary immune from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Basic espionage laws along with destruction of evidence and lying to the FBI (which is what Martha Stewart was jailed for)

    Why should government be bound by any laws us little people have to follow?

    1. Re:Well with Hillary immune from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because the government HAS to be able to contact it's citizens... they aren't retailors or a political party. It's obvious the robocall law was not made to apply to the government and it should not because it would harm the nation.

      Citizens and govenrment are really the same thing in a democracy, but mandatory public services really need to be able to send out automated messaged.

      Are you really saying Amber Alerts should be illegal because that's where you would be going with saying the government should not solicit you using an automated process.

      We do that to private organizations to stop spam. I've never heard of spam from the government. Even the IRS and DMV doesn't spam people.

    2. Re:Well with Hillary immune from by EmeraldBot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      WTF are you talking about? Government absolutely spams people. Government is a bunch of politicians, each one with their own agenda, each one trying to make some money/name for himself. This has nothing to do with any so called 'public good' (there is no such thing anyway). These robocalls are illegal and now the government says: fuck you all, we are above the law. We will call you, promote our agenda, ask for money, threaten you into compliance, into voting a particular way, etc.etc.etc.

      Tyranny of a collectivist government is worse than tyranny of a singular tyrant. A tyrant can be taken down, even killed. How do you kill the hydra that is a collectivist government?

      Seriously? You don't like the government's policies, so your first reaction is to kill the leader? For the love of god, you're a shining example of the extremism that's become fashionable nowadays. This isn't Iran, if you have a problem you protest peacefully or become active in politics yourself, you don't fucking assassinate people.

      Second off, I think the AC parent is the only one I've read so far who's RTFA. If you actually did, it still bans politicians, which will prevent the at times harassing political bombardments, but the government itself is of course going to need to call people. Businesses are exempt when they do business - but what does the government do? It's sure as hell not supposed to be business. Without the mass calling exemption, they wouldn't be able to distribute natural disaster alerts, the Amber Alert system would be questionable, and I think we can all agree saying no to a researcher the one time in your life you're called isn't too hard compared to the benefits scientific studies bring us all. I'm as frustrated with our government as anyone is right now, but geez people, think before saying something.

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      "Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
    3. Re:Well with Hillary immune from by roman_mir · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This isn't Iran, if you have a problem you protest peacefully or become active in politics yourself, you don't fucking assassinate people.

      - I disagree. I think assassinating government officials makes perfect sense, they don't give a hoot about assassinating anybody and everybody if that's what it takes to stay in power. Starting wars, murdering thousands, tens, hundreds of thousands, millions, all of this is done by governments. Sure, sure, governments have support of their people, but that's the problem - the people are very often uninformed, unintelligent creatures that follow another 'charismatic' asshole down the drain. Sometimes that 'charismatic' asshole needs to be taken down to pull the people out of their idiocy. Sometimes the dear leader simply cannot be replaced by any other means (see North Korea for example).

      As to the fucking collectivist governments, like the ones in USA, EU, those are the worst types of offenders where it comes to impossibility of getting rid of a completely fucked up situation.

      I am against the very existence of the IRS, Federal reserve bank, FDIC, FHA, EPA, FCC, FBI, departments of all shapes and sizes, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, every form of welfare, every form of theft and redistribution.

      These things cannot be eliminated because the people who are voting will always vote to take from others what they think is their entitlement. These things should not exist in the USA in the first place, not a single one of them is Constitutional, every one of them is usurpation of power. AFAIC the power is already such that it is way beyond the normal process, there is no way to abolish all of these institutions without a violent event. A violent event is coming, it will be brought upon by the crash of the US bonds and the dollar itself. The violence is coming and these institutions will be gone simply because the very foundation for them, the US dollar that is fake (defaulted upon back in 1971) is going to fail and the Fed will make sure it fails in the worst way possible.

      We are alive on this planet today, not tomorrow necessarily, not 100 years from now but right now. We should not suffer any of this right now.

  2. More fun times ahead by Archfeld · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The best method to discourage sales or political calls is to engage them in useless time consuming discussion about imaginary family or to request a moment to get a pen, and put the phone down for minutes then return with a pen, that mysteriously won't write, ramble on like a dementia afflicted individual. It takes a bit of time but can be quite amusing and I've found it to be very effective. Often informing the other side that you are recording the conversation for future entertainment purposes will discourage them as well.

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    errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
  3. Don't expect help from the government. by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We are simply on our own.

    If you can, get a caller ID machine that allows you to create a white list of numbers that can get through and send all others straight to the answering machine which you can later blacklist from getting in at all. Works for email, I whitelist my inbox in order to take care of old business before wrestling with new business going into the spam box.

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”