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The Great Tablet Gold Rush Is Over (mashable.com)

Earlier this month, Dell announced that it will no longer sell Android tablets. The company added that slate tablet market is "over-saturated" and is "experiencing declining demand from consumers." The company says it will focus more on 2-in-1 -- otherwise known as hybrid laptops -- devices moving forward. Dell is right. According to IDC, tablet sales have fallen greatly in the last few years. Mashable goes on to say that the "great tablet gold rush is over." From an article: Pretty much every major tablet maker's growth fell year-over-year. Apple's iPad and Samsung's Galaxy Tabs, the two most popular brands of tablets, were down 18.8% and 28.1%, respectively. [...] In the beginning, the pitch was: The tablet is the future of computing. It'll replace your phone and your laptop. Then it became: A small tablet will replace your smartphone. Today, the pitch: It's good enough to replace your laptop. But only for some people, and only if you're willing to get by with a mobile OS. Long story short: Tablets are a complete mess right now. We can't seem to decide if we want them to replace all of our devices or only a few of them.

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  1. Saturation by Ann+Coulter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is probably market saturation. It happened with music players a decade ago and happens to almost every other invention.

    1. Re:Saturation by jandrese · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yep, manufacturers overestimated the market capacity for Tablets. In the end they're a fairly niche product, and everybody who wanted one pretty much has one at this point. They aren't useless, but they aren't compelling for most people either. You get a device that's the size of a small laptop, but less capable because it's crippled with a phone OS and no keyboard. I use mine somewhat regularly, but only for a handful of tasks:
      1. Reading full color comics. The Kindle sucks for this.
      2. Watching video on the go. Much better experience than the phone, but this is only for long car rides and is used to keep the kids entertained.
      3. Playing games. My phone is an iPhone, so all of my Android gaming has to be done on the tablet. This is a very niche use, and it really only came about from me looking for a reason to even turn the thing on in the first place. Were it not for the Humble Bundle I don't think this would even make the list.

      Web browsing and email are also possible, but the experience is decidedly worse than a laptop so I don't usually do it. Especially if I have to reply to an email.

      The big advantages with phones is portability. They're always in the pocket ready to go. Tablets don't have that, yet they're stuck with the same drawbacks that phones have like touch controls and a locked down OS.

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    2. Re:Saturation by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lets tell the whole truth. Not just "Dell announced that it will no longer sell Android tablets", but that lots and lots of Android tablets were sold and now Dell will no longer provide updates, including security updates, to their customers for the tablets that they did sell. Now they want to sell something else. They hope to sell lots of them. Can anyone figure out what is going to happen when that market is "saturated"?

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    3. Re:Saturation by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's also different people wanting vastly different things. I commented on this when the Dell news hit. Some are fine with a smart phone and the now rather larger screens on those for all their mobile needs. Other want something bigger, but tend to opt towards a laptop (especially the newer small form laptops and 'slates'). Personally I still want a viable replacement for my Asus Transformer Prime TF-201. It was every bit as viable as a laptop, while running the Android OS instead of being burdened with windows. This gave it battery life over 8 hours on it's own and with the keyboard battery it nearly had 18 hours of charge. It's downfall was horribly bad advertising on the part of Asus and it's price of around $500 which makes it compete with low end laptops. Personally I thought it was way better than any low end laptop I ever used, but most people looking at it purely by price would think the laptop might be the way to go.

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    4. Re:Saturation by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some tablets did have (very nice) keyboards. Some people would also love to replace their now antique tablets from 2011... But we can't because no one makes those anymore. The rush towards the bottom happened and 'high end' tablets became dinosaurs. Btw I never considered the android OS on my old tablet 'crippled', it did everything I could want form a tablet and even everything I needed for a laptop. I know not all tablets were like that, but it's been my experience.

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    5. Re:Saturation by ohieaux · · Score: 2

      The Transformer Prime was not a decent laptop replacement. I bought into the hype and purchased one when it first came out. The concept was good, and the battery life was great, But, the tablet OS was useless and the applications were phone apps. Try editing a document or spreadsheet with a phone app. The trackpad seemed to have little use without a real mouse cursor.

      In the end it, like most tablets, was a glorified phone. If all you wanted to do is surf with a crippled browser, play phone type games or watch videos it was fine. But, it wasn't really suited for much else.

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    6. Re:Saturation by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      What makes you feel that a laptop is better? While admittedly a pain to carry places, a tablet gives a personal device that is less focused than a laptop. Using a laptop in a restaurant as an example (say eating alone) seems more anti social than a tablet...

    7. Re:Saturation by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am eagerly awaiting the end of the stupid trend for websites to all look the same with the same gigantic blocky format in an attempt to "capture" the tablet market.

      Every tablet can zoom, there's no need to dumb down the entire internet for them.

    8. Re:Saturation by DuckDodgers · · Score: 2

      Speaking for myself, I lost interest in tablets because they break so easily.

      Smart phone cases are strong and the screens are generally small enough that breaks are rare. They happen, but in my family of six we haven't had a smart phone screen break in over three years. Tablets? Three complete tablet failures in three years. Five tablet screen cracks in three years. Meanwhile we have a netbook, two laptops, and four desktops, and the oldest machine is from 2006. The only traditional computer hardware failure in ten years was one hard drive. And I still have a PC from 2001 that works, I just don't turn it on because it's got less computing power than a Raspberry Pi.

      That's why I lost interest in tablets.

    9. Re:Saturation by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

      What kind of keyboard was that?, like keys built into the tablet's body or a more regular external one?

      High end tablets never really went away as far as I know. Most are iPad or Windows x86.
      Quite recently there's been the Google Pixel C as a decidedly high end Android tablet with a keyboard.
      There are negative reviews that have to do with the OS mainly, people complain of running phone software scaled to 10" (which I imagine is worsened by the "flat design" trend) but I guess you'd do ok, as long as you know what you want to run.

      A these prices, people can get a "real" computer, with thin options i.e. tablet or laptop with no RJ45.
      Simple task, get data to/from a USB drive, most people won't know what to do. Although we know that a USB-to-go dongle may be used, or something like installing an ssh server on the tablet and using filezilla or sshfs on the desktop.

      "Special computers" have always been a failure, such as Network Computers, Philips CD-I, Internet (browsing) appliances, linux netbooks (those with a token distro thrown on a 2GB internal flash drive), next to those Android tablets are a huge success.

    10. Re:Saturation by Chryana · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You would have a point if Dell was an exception. Unfortunately, it seems software support ends for a lot of Android device on the moment that they leave the factory. I just checked the Staples site, and most of the tablets they offer are still running Lollipop. Now, even Google has stopped making tablets, so good luck finding an Android tablet whose manufacturer is willing to keep providing updates on it. Thus, I don't see how Dell is better or worse than the rest of the manufacturers out there.

    11. Re:Saturation by GrBear · · Score: 2

      Tell that to Google who'll eagerly down rank you if your website isn't 'Mobile Friendly'.

    12. Re:Saturation by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I commented on it elsewhere, but my tablet is a Asus Transformer Prime TF-201 from 2011 and it had a detachable keyboard with a hinged 'flip' to it. By default it had a micro-SD card slot, headphone jack, micro-HDMI, and an 8 hour battery among other things. The keyboard held a second battery with nearly the same charge as the main one, full-size USB and SD card slot, and the keyboard itself wasn't cramped (and so you could type at full speed). Heck do to USB I could even connect mice or a desktop keyboard and use them, and I've read/played things from/formatted USB drives with it. I've done everything from video editing to writing on it, so it could do anything I'd possibly want to do on a laptop. Sadly the gorilla glass screen and durable aluminum body construction haven't saved it from eventually getting cracks and dents, though these haven't made it stop working... yet. However it running Android 4.1.1 is both a blessing and a curse. It was still 'designed with tablets in mind', but it is outdated and the software doesn't exactly play well with it anymore.

      I have zero Apple products, so an Ipad is not tempting at all for me. Even if it was the wireless keyboards always seem to have more issues than I'd like to hear about and most don't seem all that good. Windows 'tablets' that I've looked at feel slow and clumsy and I just can't end up liking 'windows lite' apps. I dislike them even on Windows on desktops or laptops.

      I hadn't even heard of the Pixel C. Looking at it though it lacks USB and does the same silly 'no cords man!' thing that the Ipad and most MS tablets do. Even so it looks closer than most to what I'd want.

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    13. Re:Saturation by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 2

      Dude, I don't know what you did, but I have edited many spreadsheets and documents (heck I wrote a fricking book on it and used to take class notes when I went back to take some college classes). I had zero issues doing those things. Heck I even edited video on it (that I took with a USB enabled camcorder). Maybe you just chose very bad software (apps)?

      I would agree the trackpad was useless, but it had a USB port and I connected wireless mice to it from time to time if I needed a 'real' pointing device beyond my finger. It worked just fine with a real mouse, though it didn't understand 'right clicking', but then neither do most Macs so...

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    14. Re:Saturation by jbolden · · Score: 2

      One of the big upsides of Android is hardware diversity. Device manufacturers can easily customize the device for markets and sub markets. The downside is you have hardware diversity induced by easy customization and thus support is expensive and complicated. Two sides of the same coin.

  2. Bad input by Moof123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The touch interface sucks for a lot of things, making it a lame replacement for many things. Browsing the web is good. Games are are largely bad. Many really need a game pad or mouse style input to be decent. So while an ipad can easily run doom or quake level stuff with ease, mostly the bad control interface ruins them.

    Typing sucks on a touch interface, too slow for anything beyond a few sentences at a time.

    So our ipads mostly get used to watch Netflix while cooking dinner, playing music, checking news, and not much more. Much of the promise is ruined by a lack of mouse and keyboard.

    1. Re:Bad input by The-Ixian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I couldn't agree more.

      My uses for the ipad are:

      casting to the tv
      Playing one of the 2 games (The Sequence and MTG 2015)
      As a notifier and viewer for e-mail

      That's it. Everything else I do (playing music/podcasts, checking weather/news, etc) are all done on my phone or on my gaming PC.

      I don't browse the web on it because of the screen size.
      I don't reply to e-mails because I can't stand typing on a touch screen.
      I don't read my ebooks on it because the screen is terrible for reading (prefer print books or e-ink)
      I don't take pictures or video on it because it is too big and heavy to carry around with me all the time (ipad mini)

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    2. Re:Bad input by Threni · · Score: 2

      I'd add to that "reading PDF format books". I use my kindle for all other reading but 6 inches isn't enough for a pdf as-is, and zooming, rotating etc is just horrific, and trying to convert them into mobi/epub also yields horrific results. I'd really like an a4 size kindle, or, failing that, a 10 inch one.

  3. They have their uses, but in limited situations. by Nikkos · · Score: 2

    I've used a tablet to take notes, read books, do research, keep kids busy, surf the net etc over the last 6 or so years (I have a gen 1 Galaxy Tab 8.1)

    The only thing I still use it for is reading books, and occasionally as an ODBII reader with Torque. It hasn't replaced anything, it's just another computer I use in situations where a smartphone isn't big enough (or I need the smartphone for something else) and a laptop is too big.

  4. First they came for my desktop ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    First they came for the desktops, but I didn't care, I could use a laptop with an external screen and keyboard.
    Then they came for the laptops, but I didn't care because ... Tablets!
    Then they came for the tablets, and I didn't care because Smartphones make tablets feel like boat anchors.
    You can have my smartphone when you pry it from my cold dead hands!

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    1. Re:First they came for my desktop ... by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First they came for our desktops, and we stood our ground.

      Signed,
      Pro users and gamers.

    2. Re:First they came for my desktop ... by Lendrick · · Score: 2

      Didn't you know? PC Gaming is dead.

      I know this because the gaming media has been *insisting* that it's dead for the past fifteen years.

    3. Re: First they came for my desktop ... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

      I bought a console because I don't want to have to throw more hardware at games.

  5. Verdict? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Desktops still not dead.

  6. The Pitch is the Problem by Thyamine · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most people see a tablet and know what they want to do with it, or are surprised when it's better than expected. Only tech reviewers and vendor marketing departments were planning on tablets replacing all those things listed. I bought mine because I wanted a tablet, not a phone replacement or a laptop replacement or an interactive dinner plate/hack du jour. I assume most of it is due to a need to generate sales and page views and all that, but mostly I found it was all fairly silly. I like my tablet because it's a tablet, stop trying to tell me why I _should_ like it.

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  7. I saw this when the rush started by Dracos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tablets were never going to replace anything, they're a flawed compromise between everything else. Manufacturers pushed them in the hopes that they could expand the relevance of the new mobile walled gardens, and the media fueled the hype because blind consumerism. Tablet OEMs who started designing keyboards into new tablets were ahead of the curve.

    Tablets are for consumption, not production. Only now are people realizing this, so their tablet upgrades are laptops or nothing. If you don't need a video clipboard, you don't need a tablet.

    1. Re:I saw this when the rush started by Junta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, Point of Sale equipment. Tablets ate a big chunk out of that market.

      I'll say that the PC industry is faring better in new sales that Tablets by a *wide* margin, showing that PC market continues to be driven by upgrades, while the tablet market is generally not seeking better, faster, stronger.

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  8. What else is new? by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Step 1: Apple introduced the iPad and everybody was desperate to get one because it was the trendy item to have.

    Step 2: people started figuring out what they could do with a handy portable computer.

    Step 3: everybody who had a use for a tablet had one and the sales dropped off to replacement level.

    Any remotely interesting new product is going to grow at unsustainable levels until the market is saturated. Then the growth stops.

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  9. Couch Potatoe Computing by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2

    Good for surfing the web on the couch or reading a book. Anything that requires actual work, requires better I/O devices like actual keyboards and mice.

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  10. Re:They have their uses, but in limited situations by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    It hasn't replaced anything

    Sounds to me like it replaced books and your ODBII reader.

  11. Hype Cycle by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 2
  12. Re:Contrary to What Others Say by pjbgravely · · Score: 2

    I thought I would use a tablet for everything, but then I found I hardly used it. My 3 screened desktop is just too good at everything. A one app tablet is just a chore to use. switching back and forth constantly. Having everything right there is too easy. The last time my desktop died I didn't even bother getting out the tablet while waiting for the part to arrive.

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  13. Amazing anyway by Humbubba · · Score: 2

    The tablet has some pretty tight bounds, but working within those bounds can make a pretty powerful muscle in its own right. I bought my tablet for about a c note a gazillion years ago, and after playing with it a while, let it collect dust. Then I used it for a TV remote, and for playing podcasts on my 3+ hour commute. Now it has Guitar Tuna, Kodi, a flavor of Python and I somehow got Touch Vim to spell check! It's pretty sweet with a full size Bluetooth keyboard. I even watch internet TV on it. Now, it doesn't do everything - it's stuck on Android 4.4, so no editing files to the external storage, does not have a full featured LibreOffice or other such muscles, and I've given up on mirroring to a larger screen. But when I install VNC, it becomes the on-the-road front end to my other computers. And if that works well, it might inspire me sign up for an AWS/Digital Ocean VC. Imagine using a tablet to control all that muscle! I'm impressed with that tablet more than ever, and plan on getting another. Eventually.

  14. My phablet makes it irrelevant by amplesand · · Score: 2

    I never understood the need for a tablet since when the phablets came out. I have big hands and no trouble with large screen smartphones, i.e. phablets.

    I have a 5.7 inch display Samsung Galaxy Note, which does most if not all the tricks a tablet does, and many many more since its a phone too.

    In the end the gold rush was over before I even joined.

  15. Bending moment by dbIII · · Score: 2

    Big brittle screens are going to break far more easily then small brittle screens simply because they have more length to twist over.
    It sucks.
    At least e-ink is starting to get flexible plastic screens instead of glass but they are still rare. LCD tablets with flexible screens may follow in a few years, but until then is you don't treat them like glass the glass breaks.