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Pokemon Go Leads to Reckless Driving, Injuries, and A Corpse (chicagotribune.com)

Since its release Wednesday night, Pokemon Go has already gone on to become the top-grossing game in the three countries where it's available, and Forbes contributor Tero Kuittinen calls it "the first example of an AR product becoming a national obsession." An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: Some fans are now tweeting about playing the game while driving, and the Chicago Tribune quotes one user who says "Pokemon Go put me in the ER last night... Not even 30 minutes after the release...I slipped and fell down a ditch." In Australia the game has been leading some players to their local police station, and a woman in Wyoming reports that the game actually led her to a dead body floating in a river. And at least one Pokemon Go screenshot has gone viral. It shows a man capturing a Pokemon while his wife gives birth.
The app's popularity has created lagging servers and forced Niantic to delay its international roll-out, meaning "Those who have already downloaded the game in the U.S., Australia and New Zealand can still play it, while those in the U.K., the Netherlands and other countries will have to wait." Meanwhile, Motherboard warns that a malicious sideloaded version of Pokemon Go is being distributed that actually installs a backdoor on Android devices, and also reports that some players are already spoofing their GPS coordinates in order to catch Pokemon without leaving their house.

130 comments

  1. I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once everyone remembers that physical activity and going outside are exactly the things they're trying to get away from by playing video games, people will get sick of this.

    All that's left is to predict the total body count.

    1. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking millenials and their fucking phones...

    2. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playing games is "not having a life"? What's life then, working?

    3. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the guys posting comments on Slashdot early in the morning... fucking nerd.

    4. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Spookticus · · Score: 1

      Hey! Get off my lawn.

    5. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Socializing for instance. Oh, sorry, you're a nerd.

    6. Re:I give this about two weeks. by wardrich86 · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking about the same. We've had Ingress for a few years now. It was pretty popular when it first came out, and then died off. Niantic are stupid for not doing a global release. The hype train is going to be gone before the rest of the world gets it.

    7. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Died off? Are you high or just not paying attention. The anomaly series' that are held globally still draw in massive amounts of people, with players flying in or driving across multiple states just for a primary site.

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    8. Re: I give this about two weeks. by jsh1972 · · Score: 2

      Red team alone in Houston already has 500+ registered members and I promise we socialize. The majority of my friends I made playing ingress, the dev's previous game, 3 1/2 years and going strong.

    9. Re: I give this about two weeks. by jsh1972 · · Score: 1

      Their servers can't keep up with the load now. Also, ingress never died off, there's more people playing it than ever and I've seen a ton of new players coming in in the last few days, people that found it through PoGo, no doubt.

    10. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      I doubt that, Niantic Lab's previous game (Ingress) has been going strong with lots of players for several years. Its the same concept, wander around outside gathering imaginary items with your phone. Guess there's a market for walking around with your phone.

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    11. Re: I give this about two weeks. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm on Slashdot in church Just got thanked by the pastor for helping put on an event yesterday. Anyone can tell I'm on my phone during the music portion.

    12. Re:I give this about two weeks. by xonen · · Score: 1

      As an ingress player, I couldn't disagree with you more.

      Having said that, I took a quick look at pokemon and although interesting, it's surely not my game. There are similarities to ingress, but it's also targeted at a very different audience. Another drawback I saw was their pricing scheme, they seem mostly interested in you dollars, whereas ingress is totally free to play, with only a few 'gimmicks' sold for the die-hard players, and surely will not drain your wallet till the max.

      On-topic - ingress has put a lot of couchpotato's outside, made hiking and traveling more fun, and socializes team members in sometimes very close and active communities. I wonder if pokemon will have the same socializing effect.

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    13. Re: I give this about two weeks. by lucm · · Score: 2

      So you're on Slashdot during the fun part, then put down your phone when the guy starts reading the Bible and telling people not to touch each oher unless it's to have babies?

      Clearly you have a twisted perception of fun. You must be a Gentoo user.

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    14. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only little kids care about socializing. When you finally grow up, you'll be tired of it and welcome the solitude of a nice video game session.

    15. Re:I give this about two weeks. by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 1

      idk man, Ingress has survived 3 whole years so far and is still doing pretty well.... I mean, it probably depends on where you live of course.

      I don't see Pokemon Go dying out quickly at all.

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    16. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol "red team"? Let me guess, was it the color of your noggin' after you were forced to run pantless through the school corridors?

    17. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PokeGo is actually a ridiculously social endeavor.

      There are several dozen virtual hot-spots for the game associated with real world landmarks. The nerds have taken over sketchy parks late at night in droves.

    18. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to what?
      Wearing your local sports team's jersey in public of a sport you never played?
      Drunkly screaming at the TV?
      Memorizing "your" team's stats to irrelevantly ramble off to impress other mouth breathers?

      Yeah... Have fun with that...

    19. Re: I give this about two weeks. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      PokeGo is actually a ridiculously social endeavor.

      You're saying that as if it were a good thing.

    20. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Music portion?!? You're not Catholic?!? The Lord will Smite You Down heathen.

    21. Re:I give this about two weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 so far http://nationalreport.net/teen-killed-trespassing-while-playing-pokemon-go/

    22. Re: I give this about two weeks. by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Hey now, there is nothing wrong with being a masochist! There are a lot of people out there that use Gentoo.

    23. Re: I give this about two weeks. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As a Catholic, I have to ask, what are you smoking? I used to sing with the folk band, and even ran the sound board many times. What makes you think that music isn't allowed at mass?

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  2. Best comment is from a kid by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Most of these people are adults. Don't they have anything better to do?

    Sadly, no. No they don't. They'd love a job, though. Your dad hiring?

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    1. Re:Best comment is from a kid by xvan · · Score: 1

      On my (small) company there are 3 (non casual) ingress players.
      all of them married, 2 of them with child’s.

      Of course, you'd like to punch them in the face, when they walk next to you with they eyes stuck on the screen and suddenly turn around and change directions, but there must be something in the game for such a heavy time / money investment. ( seems like you need last generation phones to enjoy the game).

      I'd say that on my nerdimeter the worst of them scores a 7.50 out of 10.

    2. Re:Best comment is from a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but there must be something in the game for such a heavy time / money investment.

      Odd, as I've viewed it as a game that requires low time investment compared to other games, and near zero money investment. My 2+ year old phone handles it fine (except when in extreme cases like being in Tokyo), and that was a phone I got for "free" with a cell phone contract back before they gave a discount for bringing your own phone. The only money I put into it is $15 for an external battery, and that has been useful for other times, e.g. reading a lot on a long flight, using it as a music player, or when forgetting it is turned on in a bag when camping where the low/no signal drains the battery fast. The in game purchases are near useless, unlike other games built around trying to get you to buy as much as possible.

      Also, the amount of time is pretty small, since it only takes maybe a dozen short walks around a not-small city to get to level 8. Higher levels don't make much difference. Otherwise, the amount of time comes down to how much time you want to spend walking, commuting, or driving around with other players for bigger operations. The last category seems rare in my area, at least compared to the number of players that get together to spend it drinking and talking at a bar that has a couple portals within range. However, if you live in a rural area on the other hand, then it can take a long time to get anywhere with the game.

    3. Re:Best comment is from a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better to do? Like what? What's wrong with going for a walk and having things to see and something to do when you get there? Go see the local lighthouse, or outdoor art, maybe your town or city has a windmill. It's a game based around GPS and landmarks and encourages getting out and seeing the sights. Not sure how you correlate employment with that, but I guess have another drinkypoo if that's your idea of entertainment.

  3. niantic specs? by nimbius · · Score: 1

    Anyone have specs for niantic servers or hardware? Usually game companies just farm this out to saas or pass like softlayer and pay no real price when a cluster of shared vps shit the bed from exhaustive jvm load. I wouldn't be surprised of GO servers were java.

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    1. Re: niantic specs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's run on Google App Engine, same as Niantic's other games, Ingress.

    2. Re: niantic specs? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, Pokemon Go is written in...Go? :)

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  4. Typical fat, lazy Americans by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

    some players are already spoofing their GPS coordinates in order to catch Pokemon without leaving their house.

    Why go outside and explore your environment when you can sit on your fat, artery-clogged ass and do nothing? Every day wall-E becomes more reality than fiction.

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    1. Re:Typical fat, lazy Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you still write code all in 1s & 0s too, eh?

    2. Re:Typical fat, lazy Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, any REAL programmer uses C-x M-c M-butterfly

    3. Re:Typical fat, lazy Americans by xvan · · Score: 1

      To be able to spoof I needed to:

      1) root the phone.
      3) flash a custom recovery.
      2) install xposed via a custom recovery.
      3) install mock mock gps xposed module to fool Niantic's mock gps detection.
      4) Install a gps spoof app.
      5) Enable the gps spoof app via Android developer tools.

      That is too much work to put everything together for a lazy American, fat or not.

      I did it because I wanted to test the game and it wasn't released on my country yet. I got bored really fast.
      But developing a farming bot for the game might be a good investment. Without comm a good bot might go undetected, and a farm might produce some money when trading get's released

  5. a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should probably cut the hours it can be played. Perhaps 11pm to 7am shouldn't work. This prevents people from going out at night and causing "problems".

    They probably should mention something in the game, if they don't, to "NOT TRESPASS".

    It might also be a good idea to increase the range in which someone can catch. Or however it works.

    It might be a good idea to allow people to edit the map to remove pokémon on their property.

    Also, just disable the game when in moving vehicles. I mean, smartphones can detect motion, right? If something is over 5mph, just stop it.

    1. Re: a few comments by Xenx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or, better yet, hold people responsible for their own actions..

    2. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      By people you mean the property owners leaving their property in a state of disarray not suitable for proper Pokemon chasing, right?!

      This is the only logical conclusion I can come to from your comment.

    3. Re:a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      just disable the game when in moving vehicles

      I ride the bus and the train. I'm not driving. I can hit many Ingress portals on both routes. Why would you want to ruin it for me? Why do you hate me so? What did I do to you? /me 's eyes start to well up.

    4. Re: a few comments by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Or, better yet, hold people responsible for their own actions..

      Hey now, that's crazy talk. That would mean criminals couldn't blame anyone but themselves when they commit a crime or fat people couldn't blame their "genes" when they refuse to eat a vegetable or walk up a flight of stairs.

      That kind of attitude simply won't do around here. I'm surprised you got modded up. Give it time, you'll be modded to oblivion for stating such a heretical idea.

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    5. Re: a few comments by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      By people you mean the property owners leaving their property in a state of disarray not suitable for proper Pokemon chasing, right?!

      This is the only logical conclusion I can come to from your comment.

      If that's the only way you can see it - that everything is always someone else's fault - then you're part of the problem.

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    6. Re:a few comments by AndroSyn · · Score: 1

      Also, just disable the game when in moving vehicles. I mean, smartphones can detect motion, right? If something is over 5mph, just stop it.

      At least with Ingress, you get speed locked if you end up with an average speed over 35mph.

    7. Re:a few comments by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      Also, just disable the game when in moving vehicles. I mean, smartphones can detect motion, right? If something is over 5mph, just stop it.

      People can run over 5 MPH, you know.

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    8. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a Trump supporter who wants to segregate people and build wall or fences. Probably a gun nut who would come out waving his pistols saying "grit orfff my lawn!"

      The earth belongs to all humans, not just property owners.

    9. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOOSH!!!

      Dumbest fucking bitch on Slashdot has just raised his hand!

    10. Re: a few comments by lucm · · Score: 2

      You'll understand if one day you make enough money to own something and pay taxes.

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    11. Re: a few comments by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      If that's the only way you can see it - that everything is always someone else's fault - then you're part of the problem.

      The problem is not him, it's the legal system which enables him, brought to you from a country where thieves can sue their victims when they hurt themselves during a break-in. ... and win.

    12. Re:a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GPS wander when standing still can easily be over 5 mph.

    13. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The devil force me to do it. God told me to do it. The game made me do it.

      It wasn't me!

    14. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^^^^^

    15. Re:a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also sometimes commute by bus and play Ingress while doing so. But I also recognize it is a game about walking and would be fine with a lower speed cap in the game.

    16. Re: a few comments by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Or, better yet, hold people responsible for their own actions..

      People are always susceptible to doing dumb stuff, one responsibility of technology makers is to be aware that people sometimes do dumb things with their technology.

      The Tesla autopilot is an example from early this week, it lulls you into tuning out on the road and letting the AI drive.

      This is another facet, augmented reality mixes virtual games with real environments. Someone who deliberately hung toys next to a highway for drivers to grab as they went by would rightly be criticized for luring people into dangerous actions. If an app is unintentionally doing something similar it's valid to question it.

      It doesn't mean we should ban the game or even force them to change something, but it's a valid issue to discuss.

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    17. Re:a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not while playing video gamez on phonez. See ditch. Fall in ditch. Go Darwin.

    18. Re: a few comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the "not ready for public but released anyway scientific study xyz said I should do it!"

  6. Natural Selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As usual, neither the company, nor the rest of society, are responsible for the stupidity and mental retardation of Pokemon playing retards who die to snake bites, alligators, sewer drops, accidental minefield intrusions, and other self-induced deaths and injuries born from negligence and a lack of proper parenting skills in their respective families. No sympathy for mortal stupidity.

  7. Good spoofing is difficult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most GPS spoofing apps on android don't change the visible satellites or signal strengths. This is how many company tracking apps try to detect spoofing. If you appear to be in Japan, but you see sats that would be under the horizon that is strange.

    Spoofing at the GPS antenna input, if done right, is of course completely invisible to the software on the phone, but also much more complicated.

  8. Took my son around to play it by rfengr · · Score: 1

    Should I feel bad for taking my 8 YO out to play it? Waited several hours to sign up, then it let me in. This thing is going to result in lots of police calls with people snooping around at night. Dead batteries and dropped phones too. Who decided what landmarks get in the database?

    1. Re:Took my son around to play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Who decided what landmarks get in the database?

      Niantic also runs the augmented reality game "Ingress", where players submit landmarks to be used as "portals" in the game. My guess is they reuse that information for Pokemon Go. In Ingress, cemeteries are popular portal locations due to the high density of artistic monuments, resulting in lots of in-game progress with little moving around. If Niantic didn't filter those for Pokemon Go, it could become a bit of a Goth game.

    2. Re:Took my son around to play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing the policy of automatically accepting places of worship as ingress hot spots is really backfiring here

      Here's a link so you can get some idea of what would get accepted.

    3. Re:Took my son around to play it by rfengr · · Score: 1

      First one went to was on a school ground, which is in the list of no-submits.

    4. Re:Took my son around to play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Ingress, there are plenty of portals where they shouldn't be. It's usually somebody's home or workplace or school, so they can "hack" constantly. Complaints about invalid portals take weeks or months to be processed and ultimately are often ignored. I've seen the same landmark as a three portals in Ingress with locations far apart: One was correct, the other were "clones" at home addresses of Ingress players. The spoofing and general cheating in Ingress is ridiculous.

    5. Re:Took my son around to play it by codepigeon · · Score: 3, Informative

      The "landmarks" come from a game called Ingress. It was the precursor to pokemon go.

      In that game users could submit ideas for the spots that would become portals(now pokemon stops). They are supposed to be places of interest, sculptures, murials, historic or interesting buildings. I'm proud (or sad) to say that many of the spots in my area were submitted by me a couple years ago. :)

    6. Re:Took my son around to play it by AndroSyn · · Score: 1

      Ingress hasn't allowed new portal submissions in well over a year. btw. Initially Ingress was seeded with a lot of historical markers from HMDB.org. There are certainly a lot of silly portals, one that comes to mind is one of the big red concrete balls in front of a Target, with the portal being named "Big Red Ball of Peace" or something.

    7. Re:Took my son around to play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they stopped as a couple months ago, but there have definitely been new portals within the last year. The backlog of new portals waiting for approval has been huge, and they seemed to have a policy of reviewing them by geographic area, not order of submission. Not that long ago, a city I used to live got a whole bunch of new portals all at once, and included portals that had been submitted less than a week before a long with ones waiting 6 months for approval. The next city/cell over got a bunch of new portals the following week.

    8. Re:Took my son around to play it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is, or at least was not too long ago, easy to remove a portal as being on private property. It was one of the few things you could get done in less than a week turn around from Niantic. Although it took much longer, they also seemed good at removing portals if they disagreed with a location on Google maps. However, if the location is not on Google maps, or much worse, the Google maps location was wrong, then it became very difficult to get a portal removed.

    9. Re:Took my son around to play it by AndroSyn · · Score: 1

      It was at least a year ago that the new portal submissions was disabled in the scanner. I think the portal submission queue was really a year or so backlogged. Mostly they've focused on new mission submissions lately I think. Those seem to be backlogged about 3 weeks to a month.

  9. From my experience with Ingress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This game is going to be completely dominated by bus drivers, truck drivers, taxi drivers and mail men (mail people?). It will also be a lot easier in cities than in rural areas, and cemeteries will have lots of Pokemon if Niantic uses the Ingress "portal" database.

  10. Eejits. by jpellino · · Score: 0

    And these are the grownups. Still playing Pokemon. How about a reverse age restriction? You can't be old enough to drive to play this game... or just let augmented natural selection run its course.

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    1. Re:Eejits. by p0p0 · · Score: 1

      You forgot to tell everyone to stay of your lawn.

    2. Re:Eejits. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, you were raised by parents who beat you for having fun weren't you? Did your dad force you play sports and tell you its the only way a many can be a man?

  11. News media not doing their job by rasmusbr · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is admittedly interesting news, but what I'm really dying to know is what Kim Kardashian has to say about Pokemon Go.

    I'd also like to know more about the top 10 weirdest things that have happened to people while playing Pokemon Go and how to easily make hundreds of dollars a week by playing Pokemon Go.

    1. Re:News media not doing their job by magusxxx · · Score: 1

      Betcha she only travels East and South since she's already found everything in the North and West.

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  12. pretty sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pokemon go is the stupidest 'game' i have ever seen.

  13. Re:Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably shot by the cops.

    probably a cop.

  14. What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Funny
    Pokemon Go, and the weird obsession with it, is a pretty good example of what happens when you put technology in the hands of people not equipped to handle it. The guy that broke his ankle is going to be a typical result.

    I'd strongly suggest that people not trespass in the deep south of the US, as you can be legally shot and killed for that.

    I'm also expecting the first of many lawsuits any day now, as users fall in ditches and rivers, and wander onto interstate Highways.

    These are millenials, folks - people who have never been outside by themselves before - you can't expect them to be used to that situation immediately.

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    1. Re:What a pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Implying you can generalize about a generation as a whole, and that generalizations are true just because it is stated - which would imply the person making it has quite a lack of capacity for rudimentary logical reasoning skills.

    2. Re:What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I'd strongly suggest that people not trespass in the deep south of the US, as you can be legally shot and killed for that.

      Oh shut up. You cannot be legally shot and killed for trespassing alone.

      Um-huh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

      Um-huh http://wbt.com/greenville-man-...

      In Texas, Property is more valuable than human life - like it or not, it is codified. http://nation.time.com/2013/06...

      Specifically, acquittals were provided for people who shot and kiled another person over a guy who was looking for a hooker on Craigslist, she didn't put out, os he followed her to her car and shot her from behind, which led to her death - verdict - acquittal.

      Other justifiable homicides in Texas, as proven in the courts, include stealing a 20 dollar tip jar, 13 year old child breaking into a house, stealing a 6 pack of beer.

      None of the actions by the dead are justified - although there was no apparent crime being committed in the first example, but in Texas, if you can bring a pretty good case that someone was trespassing or stealing, you are allowed to shoot them. You are not even required to be in personal danger, as a case involving a gentleman who killed two people who had robbed his neighbor.

      Sorry coward - you are incorrect.

      I'm also expecting the first of many lawsuits any day now, as users fall in ditches and rivers, and wander onto interstate Highways.

      There is a big fat disclaimer on the game saying, PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION TO THE WORLD.

      This is America. The end-around for what you assume to be a catch-all is that no printed disclaimer ever protects a manufacturer from gross negligence. Whether or not it even exists, they can be sued for gross negligence.

      These are millenials, folks - people who have never been outside by themselves before - you can't expect them to be used to that situation immediately.

      Go shut up old man. Get back to telling those damn kids to get off your lawn.

      The problem little Coward, is that millenials don't often go outside. They have been under adult supervision their whole lives and don't know how to act. So now that Pokemon Go has tricked them into coming out of the basement, they are like baby squirrels, and don't know how to act in the big wide world.

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    3. Re:What a pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All generalizations are invalid when applied to an instance, including this one.

    4. Re:What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Implying you can generalize about a generation as a whole, and that generalizations are true just because it is stated - which would imply the person making it has quite a lack of capacity for rudimentary logical reasoning skills.

      But perhaps he has at least as good skills as your ability to construct a sentence.

      While you over-react to my apparently insufferable commentary over your beloved millenials in a manner that would do a social justice warrier proud, you lose site of the basis of the argument, which is not specifically a condemnation of millennials, who are indeed a group what I feel has suffered abuse at the hands of well meaning but ultimately stupid parents and society. We never let them grow up.

      The argument is that people who are not prepared to handle technology have had it thrust into their hands, and bad things happen to them. Its how people have destroyed their lives by entering into rages on social media, how some people who don't understand the tragedy of the commons, the forever nature of posts, or that pseudo anonymity gives them the right to act like idiots, and how some folks kill themselves over cyber bullying, when the proper reaction to "some asshole on the internet" is to first ignore, then involve law enforcement if it rises to that level.

      And its how while playing this silly little game, people will walk into ditches, go driving around while watching their smartphones instead of the road, and some will no doubt Darwin themselves, maybe taking with them a few other innocents in the process. Once upon a time, this computer stuff was just for the geeks, now everyone has it - and some are woefully unprepared, and some are just not that smart to begin with.

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    5. Re: What a pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That says nore about texas juries allowing murder if you are the "right" type of person than anything about tresspassing.

    6. Re: What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      That says nore about texas juries allowing murder if you are the "right" type of person than anything about tresspassing.

      The go ahead and wander all over Texas, I hear there is a Pokemon in the back yard of that mobile home with the TransCamaro on cinder blocks in teh front yard, , and the confederate flag. Go get it! If you are the right type, you have nothing to worry about.

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    7. Re:What a pity by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      While you are completely correct on the Texas laws allowing people to be shot for basically setting foot on your property (I'm in the state so I should know), and I also agree with you on the its ridiculous to assume lawsuits will result for stupid people not paying attention, I wholeheartedly resent your 'millenials are idiots argument.'

      I am part of said generation and can honestly say at this point, this generation is no different than the previous ones, it is just much easier to criticize us because of the proliferation of round the clock news and how much more documenting many of my peers do in their every day life. Every previous generation has done stupid ass crap constantly, been incredibly smug for no reason (and with little accomplishment), ran around acting like they were better than everyone else, and countless other things that most of my generation will undoubtedly bitch about just the same when the next generation comes of age. The most you can argue is that more people see it because more people want to record and post it (professional and amateur alike).

      The idea that somehow all millenials are idiots, irresponsible, don't go out, entitled, etc. is just outrageous. Yes, there are people within this generation like that, but there were people just like that in other generations as well. Please stop acting like we (millenials) are all the same. I am a college graduate, doing perfectly well and in fact taking care of multiple of members my family members in my own home (I know, such a reversal of expectations!), while not posting my entire life to social media and acting like an entitled dick (I do not feel I am better or worse than anyone, just different). I enjoy video games and many of the other things my generation does, while still going out and working on side projects that involve skills including electrical work, carpentry and many other 'practical skills' that apparently 'no millenial learns'. I have many friends that do the same and while may not be in the same position I am, they are still good people that work hard and just got hit with their own burdens. Hell many of us even go outside, and yes I have enjoyed playing Pokemon Go as many others have as well.

      Bottom line, not everyone in the generation is like you and others want to stereotype, just a loud and idiotic minority that somehow people believe is a 'spokesman group' for the rest of us when they're not. Stop complaining about all of us please and just realize that some people are morons/assholes/entitled/whatever regardless of age or any other factor. /rant off

    8. Re:What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      While you are completely correct on the Texas laws allowing people to be shot for basically setting foot on your property (I'm in the state so I should know), and I also agree with you on the its ridiculous to assume lawsuits will result for stupid people not paying attention, I wholeheartedly resent your 'millenials are idiots argument.'

      Good. Then again, if I had just formed my opinion out of whole cloth, there might be some justification for your outrage. These are researched and ongoing issues.

      But before we even go there, there is no question that biologically the millennial generation has no particular differences between themselves and the get off my lawn crown, they have been thoroughly screwed over by parents and society.

      Oh-oh, perhaps this isn't going in the direction you want the olde farte to go.

      Society, with it's self esteem movement, has instilled within most millennials an unwarranted level of the commodity. Slef esteem is a process of earned introspection, not "I'm the most wonderful person on earth because I'm me!"

      It's been my experience that with 2 notable exceptions, our millennial hires just didn't work out. They carried a strange idea that the older people were there to serve them, from the young lady who thought that her work was to assign the work given to her to others, while seemingly thinking that Facebook was a job skill, to the guy who insisted he wouldn't answer my phone calls or emails and dealt in text messages only. I told him that he could either develop phone skills, or I'd pay him a personal visit the multiple times a day I needed input, or if he liked, we could meet halfway at the director's office. Then there was the guy who went apeshit nuts on me when after a long troubleshooting session of his program, I pointed out the problem and accidentally touched his laptop screen.

      And those are just examples of three people - there are more, but I don't want to bore you with more. In each case, the person went through the stages of telling their superiors how things were going to be. Like my "I don't answer the phone buddy found out, as an entry level employee, he isn't there to tell his supervisors how things are done. Computer screen angst guy found that no one would help him, and facebook girl just found the rest of the office wouldn't put up with her.

      The next stage was the burnout. As reality set in, these folk would freak, they were no longer the special snowflake that mom and dad and their teachers told them they were. They were not going to be promoted to a supervisory position for just coming in to work on time - most of the time. Depression often resulted.

      Stage three was quitting, and several moved back in with mom and dad.

      I'd be remiss if I didn't note the two exceptions, one a hard working and talented young lady who took her job seriously and excelled at it. Another was a young lady who - if any of these millennials deserved to have an inflated opinion of themselves, it would be her. Brilliant, analytical, task focused, always completed her tasks and could fix problems without complaining, and easy to deal with, as well as stunningly beautiful. As well as an intellectual powerhouse. In trying to deal with the other millennials, I had many conversations with her, and she was instrumental in helping me form my opinion of the problem.

      And lest we forget, the millennials were also "blessed" with parents that wanted to protect them from all of the problems of the world. Helicopter parents are not something made up - it has been a real problem as parents try to interject themselves into their now adult students post secondary life, to the point of some actually trying to go on job interviews with their children. I get a lot of articles on how Universities are trying to cop with parents running interference for their children.

      And as I pointed out, it isn't 100 percent of physically adult, mentally pre-teen millennial children out there. there ar exceptions that

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    9. Re:What a pity by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      I disagree that the problems are as widespread as we are lead to believe. Working off of your same anecdotal evidence, at my office I have the opposite experience. Most of the developers I am working with at this point are of the millenial generation (in my office at least) and with two notable exceptions (they are *closer* to the stereotype, but not full fledged), are extremely hard working, very intelligent, and not entitled/delusion. Hell, one of my co-workers that I am still friends with just moved on to working at Microsoft as a full time senior support engineer and is excelling at his job.

      Maybe it is a thing of culture, or even area, but my experience and the 'counter-research' concludes in the other direction as well. Honestly we can probably argue this both directions all day, and while I respect your experiences/opinions I stand by my statements that a large portion of this is blown out of proportion and isn't any different than previous generations. I remember specifically growing up and hearing the same stuff about GenXers and my parents can remember the same thing about the Baby Boomer generation. I've seen bad apples, I've seen ridiculous parents, I've seen entitled asshats, but I don't accept this even as the slight majority of experiences.

      My post was a bit of a rant, but you can't deny that it has gotten very old how many of the previous generations just want to bash on mine. It gets old hearing it over and over again, especially when I feel this is unfair to people such as myself and many of my friends (see: not all, some of them are idiots...). I do not believe we are even close to perfect, but as I stated we're not really any different than the previous generations and just want a fair shake. Maybe you have given some of these people that fair shake and they just blew it, but not everyone

    10. Re:What a pity by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I disagree that the problems are as widespread as we are lead to believe.

      I don't know if you work in a university environment, but I know with 100 percent certainty that they spend a lot of time money and effort to wean the childrenand their parents from each other. Non research grant money, which they are loathe to do. You are saying this is a waste of money and completely mistaken thinking? Perhaps you are correct, I just read all of the data, and along with others come to a 100 percent wrong conclusion. After all, iit is not unusual to hear olde fartes bleaing about those damn kids on their lawn. It's happened before.

      I'd like to be wrong, but as I recall, whne I heard that stuff when I first entered the workforce, instead of complaining or getting upset about the grumps,, I proved that at least, they were wrong about me. I never had any of the high self esteem, low achievement people even come close to that. Not even try. Quitting always seemed to be the first option.

      And my generation did have some widespread issues. so many of us were into instant gratification, and little long term planning, which has lead to a lot of us looking at trying to live solely on Social Security. I won't deny it, and it was stupid beyond rationalization. They thought they were never going to grow old. But we do.

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    11. Re:What a pity by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      No I work at a privately held company. I do however agree a lot of that is wasted on what amounts to corner case extremes. The large majority of these people will split themselves eventually out of necessity, just like in times past. I've seen a few that came into companies (a couple at one of our other offices even) that really needed to split, but once the company actually started asking real things of them it was a sink or swim situation and most swam (albeit with some growing pains).

      There absolutely are some crazy extreme cases (the handful I have heard where parents go to job interviews for kids come to mind), but they are way overblown and definitely not the norm. Most decent companies won't let that crap fly anyway (I know we won't, I conduct some interviews now and if that happened I would walk out and ask HR if it was a joke), and even if they did, there is absolutely no way they will make it in the environment at large. Dumping money into such a small group is extremely alarmist and frivolous imho, especially when it will resolve itself.

      I won't deny that it is difficult to ignore some of the studies and data considering our general reliance on experts in fields analyzing complex trends, but this one strikes me as incorrect. Especially given we don't have the same data to compare from all the previous generations in the same manner, they are trying way too hard to explain it when, to me, it is just part of the cycle of the generations and growing up.

  15. Esprit Duh Corpse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, papasan, tasty uhman.

  16. "XXX put me in the ER last night, .." by burni2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is only one solution for XXX = "I myself".
    If Pokemon can get one into the ER and one is not just an undiagnosed case of epilepsy than oneself is responsible.

    What is it with the people? Did nobody do OHSAS for your everyday life?

    Only on the job you have people thinking for you.
    And reminding you about the previously unkown hazzard, slippery when wet?

    Don't drill into a generator?

    When grinding use protective googles?

    When loud use ear plugs?

    Don't let idiots handle guns?

    Sometimes I think we need Darwinism 4.0-beta3, natural selection by degree of situation awareness.

    Thank you Pokemon you got rid of at least some people,
    sadly the safety standard in todays cars is too high and people survive their dumbness and even Pokemon!

    Yes, this was a rant!

    1. Re:"XXX put me in the ER last night, .." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see all your doing dumb X and ending up in ER, and raise you:

      Drink drivers. Quite possibly the leading cause of people ending up in the ER without doing something stupid and self inflicted.

    2. Re:"XXX put me in the ER last night, .." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is only one solution for XXX = "I myself".

      Sadly quite wrong.

      I'm still waiting for the first news story of some idiot playing Pokemon Go running over some children so they could catch a fake critter.

      The problem with people doing dumb shit is that they don't only hurt themselves. They can quite easily hurt others through their dumb recklessness, frequently without causing any harm to themselves in the process.

    3. Re:"XXX put me in the ER last night, .." by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Surely Darwinism = "Pokemon Go" + "Tesla Autopilot"

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    4. Re:"XXX put me in the ER last night, .." by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Drink drivers. Quite possibly the leading cause of people ending up in the ER without doing something stupid and self inflicted.

      Yet nature selects for the genes of people who are better at avoiding situations where inebriated drivers may kill or maim them.

  17. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...That escalated quickly.

  18. My son found a dog by Ken+Hall · · Score: 1

    My son (mid 20's) was out around midnight the other night wandering around our development, playing Pokemon Go. He noticed a big dog wandering around near him, and then looked up to see a telephone pole with a "lost dog" poster that matched the dog he was looking at. He called the number on the sign, and the owners came to collect the dog.

    1. Re:My son found a dog by Calydor · · Score: 1

      What, he didn't catch it? He'll never get that perfect Pokedex now.

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    2. Re:My son found a dog by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

      What, he didn't catch it? He'll never get that perfect Pokedex now.

      You mean... like Pokemon but with real animals?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    3. Re: My son found a dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You let your 20 something son out of the house all by hisself at midnight? You are a bad parent. You should be arrested for neglect.

  19. Re:Dead body in US river by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

    This is what happens when you're a criminal. Don't want to be shot? Don't be a criminal.

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  20. Sounds about right by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    Playing while driving, injuries, dead bodies, people blocking emergency services buildings... yup, that's how I remember Ingress. The only difference I can see is that the Pokemon game lore is comprehensible.

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  21. This has to be good for business by Sla$hPot · · Score: 0

    Dead bodies, wreckless driving, live birth.
    This is PR that you just can't buy.
    Kudos to the Pokemon marketing department!

  22. Re:Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when you're a criminal. Don't want to be shot? Don't be a criminal.

    Why do you need privacy if you nothing to hide?

  23. Let me FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Dumb people that play Pokemon go try to blame a video game for their dumb behavior."

  24. Royalty payments... by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a fusion of Pokemon and Ingress.

    Anyone know if the Ingress developers are getting royalties on this?

    1. Re:Royalty payments... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's written by Niantic so I'd guess yes.

      Looks like the game uses Ingress portal submissions as the location for Poke-monuments or whatever too. But I don't see a way to submit new 'portals' from within Pokemon GO. So it'll sort of suck if there weren't any Ingress portals in your area.

    2. Re:Royalty payments... by BobTheJanitor · · Score: 1

      The Ingress developers *wrote* it.

  25. Re:Dead body in US river by lucm · · Score: 1

    no, those "commit suicide"

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  26. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Darwinism at work.

    I was wondering when this would start happening. It's bad enough now with people watching their phone instead of where they are going.

  27. Re:Dead body in US river by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when you're a criminal. Don't want to be shot? Don't be a criminal.

    Tell that to Philando Castille.

  28. Re:Dead body in US river by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    ...or be driving with a bad tail light.

    Yep, you just keep on excusing the jackbooted thugs who commit cold blooded murder under color of law, you racist fuck

  29. Scraping away at the privacy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hey, this company wants to know where I go all the time. But that's ok, I caught this bitchin' new pokemon."

  30. Yeah and Spoons Make you Fat by Danilushka · · Score: 0

    People making a foolish decision to be inattentive while committed to dangerous and risky tasks is the problem, not Pokemon. The US DOT estimates 22% of all auto accidents involved distracted (a euphemism for deliberately and negligently inattentive) drivers. This is just another excuse for fools to increase their driving risks by not paying attention to their driving and risking their safety and that of others.

  31. Hey! There's one on the bar stool next to me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haaarrvey! (drops & breaks phone; cries into beer) ...

  32. Re:Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's technically a crime, though. As far as smooth wombat is concerned, every crime warrants an immediate death penalty.

  33. If you play while driving ... by davidwr · · Score: 1

    ... that should be grounds for your insurance company to jack up your rates when you come up for renewal.

    Same goes for doing anything else reckless while driving, like watching a movie (obviously excluding guys who self-nominate for the Darwin Award, like this guy).

    Of course, if you play while driving and don't brag about it, your insurance company will never know. But that's the "real" idea here: We don't want to encourage others to drive unsafely, and when you brag about driving unsafely, it tends to encourage others to do the same.

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  34. Re:Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except that the tail light wasn't bad. It was just a bullshit excuse to check out the driver.

  35. Re: Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No it isn't. The police don't even call that a crime. It's a policy violation, and a minor one at that.
    Here's a hint: crimes have victims.

  36. Re: Dead body in US river by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fine,install surveillance cameras in your bathroom. You've got nothing to hide

  37. Re: Dead body in US river by fnj · · Score: 1

    No it isn't. The police don't even call that a crime. It's a policy violation, and a minor one at that.

    It's a moving violation. "Crime" or not, it is against the law and it is punishable. And it would be difficult to argue that it is against the law but not a "crime". Merriam Webster defines "crime" as "an illegal act".

    Here's a hint: crimes have victims.

    Not all of them do. Not an identifiable specific "victim". Malicious destruction of property is a crime. In Massachusetts it can be either a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the value of the property and whether the property is a motor vehicle. Vandalism in Massachusetts is a felony. This is true even if the property is not owned by a "victim" - i.e., city property; for example parking meters. Who do you think was or were the "victim(s)" of Edward Snowden's alleged illegal activities? He was charged with the crimes of violation of the Espionage Act of 1917 and theft of government property. Don't focus on whether his actions were justified by wider considerations, or whether the Espionage Act of 1917 should be held to be constitutional, or whether the government was actually deprived of anything tangible. Just consider the premise that crimes must have "victims".

  38. Re:Dead body in US river by fnj · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when you're a criminal. Don't want to be shot? Don't be a criminal.

    Tell that to Philando Castille.

    Mr. Castile had a record of 52 traffic stops, including operating after revocation of license and "not carrying a proper insurance card". Nonetheless I will consider your suggestion, very seriously, after you tell me: did Mr. Castile, after informing the police that he had a licensed firearm with him, and being told not to move - did he then move, or did he not? And did he "display" the gun or not? An investigation has been opened as to justification or lack of it, and possible culpability. Let's wait for the process to finish investigating. If at that time, you want to criticize the process, then that would be entirely appropriate.

  39. Pokemon thug by Bristol_92 · · Score: 1

    I remember the time when animations about Pokemon let to child mortality. Hundreds of children jumped out of a window or roofs. The history repeats itself. Do we really need in such entertainment?

  40. Re: Dead body in US river by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    And it would be difficult to argue that it is against the law but not a "crime". Merriam Webster defines "crime" as "an illegal act".

    They are explicitly not crimes. If they were, you'd have increased legal protections. They are "infractions" and all that goes with that.

    Dictionary definitions are unrelated to the legal definitions. If you want to chime in on a definition for a legal term, consult a legal dictionary, not an English dictionary. Many terms are used in Law and English that don't have the same definition for both.

  41. Re:Dead body in US river by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    [after] being told not to move - did he then move, or did he not?

    He was told to not move and told to present his license. Regardless of which he complied with, he would have been not complying with the order of an officer. There was a professor beaten at the US border coming back from Canada for doing that (ordered out of his car, and ordered into his car, and beaten for not complying with both mutually-exclusive orders at the same time.

    Apparently, being confused is a capital crime.

  42. Re:Dead body in US river by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when you're a criminal. Don't want to be shot? Don't be a criminal.

    Tell that to Philando Castille.

    Mr. Castile had a record of 52 traffic stops, including operating after revocation of license and "not carrying a proper insurance card". Nonetheless I will consider your suggestion, very seriously, after you tell me: did Mr. Castile, after informing the police that he had a licensed firearm with him, and being told not to move - did he then move, or did he not? And did he "display" the gun or not? An investigation has been opened as to justification or lack of it, and possible culpability. Let's wait for the process to finish investigating. If at that time, you want to criticize the process, then that would be entirely appropriate.

    I seriously doubt that anyone with a open mind could look at his "crime of the century" driving record and conclude anything other than he was repeatedly cited for DWB.

  43. Re:Dead body in US river by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Or perhaps reaching for your license after informing a police officer you conceal carry and being asked not to reach for your license?

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  44. Made me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Pokemon Go put me in the ER last night... Not even 30 minutes after the release...I slipped and fell down a ditch."

    Seriously? YOU MADE YOURSELF do theses moronic things knuckle dragger!