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Clinton: It's 'Heartbreaking' When IT Workers Must Train H-1B Replacements (computerworld.com)
dcblogs writes: Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, on Monday criticized the replacement of U.S. IT workers with foreign labor but stopped short of offering a plan to fix it. In a videotaped interview with Vox, Clinton appears empathetic and sympathetic to IT workers who have trained their foreign replacements as a condition of severance. She mentioned IT layoffs at Disney, specifically. "The many stories of people training their replacements from some foreign country are heartbreaking, and it is obviously a cost-cutting measure to be able to pay people less than what you would pay an American worker," said Clinton in the interview. Keith Barrett, a former IT worker Disney who was among those replaced by contractors, was not happy with Clinton's comments."She starts off as if she understands the problem, but then dismisses it as collateral damage not of significant volume to address, and blends in the problem of illegal immigrant labor, which is mostly working in unskilled labor," said Barrett.
It's Heartbreaking you're not in Jail.
Wouldn't "Made in China" literally mean that H1B wasn't used in such cases?
I find it heartbreaking that in these egregious cases politicians don't speak out against it as well as attorney generals don't prosecute people for violating the law. If you are training your replacement then it is obvious that there is an American capable of doing the job and that a H-1B holder should not have it. I have written my polished turds of elected representatives on this issue and from most I got a non response (thank you for contacting your congressman or senator form letter) or a letter blaming republicans for blocking last year's comprehensive immigration law that would have expanded the H-1B program (thanks Amy Klobuchar you ignorant senator of small things)
Time to offend someone
Clinton is making it clear that for Democrats, immigration is an issue primarily about Latino voters --- not tech donors. The tech industry has sometimes thought of itself as first among equals when it comes to the "immigration reform" coalition --- now thereâ(TM)s reason for it to worry it might be last. ...
Some in the tech industry continue to nurture the hope that Congress can come together to pass a bill that just expands high-skilled visas, avoiding the political thicket of other immigration reforms. (During President Obamaâ(TM)s first term, bills to increase high-skilled visas were actually the closest to immigration reform that Congress came, though they were voted down by Democrats.) ...
But itâ(TM)s still impossible to miss the message: Tech, and everyone else, needs to take a back seat to unauthorized immigrants and their families (millions of whom, of course, are US citizens and voters).
Yea. That makes sense. So she has not deviated from her "Say anything to get elected" course. Shocker.
(Note: I replaced â" with --- because quote didn't like it)
But hey, what's a little law breaking among protected elites, right Hillary?
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
I'm not sure what is more horrifying, that the AG said she broke criminal statutes and lied to the American People repeatedly, or that she was too incompetent to be Secretary of State.
Any sufficient level of incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Clinton: It's 'Heartbreaking' When IT Workers Must Train H-1B Replacements
For contrast, here's what Donald Trump said recently
[Referring to problems within the Veteran's Administration] "I will pick up the phone and fix it myself"
Look at Hillary's positions and see if they give you a warm, fuzzy feeling of goodness.
Look at Trump's positions and see if they describe specific changes and actions.
Hillary is "stay the course", and Trump is "make changes".
And so is Donald Trump. Both are hideously wrong for America at this time. Electing Donald is like playing Russian Roulette with a revolver with one round. You have a chance. Electing Hillary is like playing Russian Roulette with a fully-loaded revolver. You're fucked no matter what happens.
Why cannot this country of 330 million people come up with better candidates? WTF is wrong with people. We should do what Australia does and voting should be compulsory. If people were forced to go out and cast their ballots, perhaps they would put some thought into who and what the issues are.
Hillary represents everything wrong with politics: she's corrupt to the core, in bed with monied interests, give a toss only about herself and her own. What sucks is that her daughter might rise up through the ranks and we'd have yet another Clinton to contend with. The daughter is just as vile as the mother, as she's cut from the same cloth. This country needs to be turned around before it's given over wholly to foreign interests. We something akin to the Australian Love It or Leave It Party. Come to America, ASSIMILATE FULLY or get the fuck out. Speak English. This is America. Not Buttfuckistan or Turdistan or whatever shithole they come from.
Hillary wants to continue to let the muslims in. They represent a far worse path than Deepak and his turbaned ilk taking a few tech jobs. It's Islam, stupid. All of this stuff is a red herring. The US is screwed.
Anyone training their H1-B replacement has witnessed a crime. This is an illegal abuse of the H1-B system and it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any company, including groups like Tata should be in jail for what they are doing. Congress should put an automatic criminal penalty of $1million per employee and Justice should target any company that can be shown to be doing it.
Who prevents the free flow of workers? Government. You can't claim government is intervening when they aren't doing anything. Intervening is blocking the importation of workers.
It might be fun to say that Clinton and Trump are equally bad, but from where I'm standing that's just nuts.
We know pretty much exactly what we'll be getting from a Hillary presidency - eight more years of the same thing we got from Presidents Obama and Clinton.
With a Trump presidency what do we get? Four years of incoherent policy that shifts on a weekly basis.and wrecks relations with pretty much every foreign state (except maybe Russia, since Trump holds Putin in such high regard).
I have difficulty feeling sorry for you, and the reasons are as follows.
Bernie is a career politician. This means there is a very high likely hood that he sells himself for the benefit of only himself.
If you ever truly listened to Bernie and looked at his history you would have known like I did, that he serves the Party, not the U.S., not YOU.
Political Parties are constructs designed to steal your voice under the guise of giving you a voice.
The democrats talk against inequality yet their only solution is more inequality. Why would they actually actively REDUCE something that gives them political currency?
And to add to the fact that you still hash tagged #BernOrBust while 'The Bern' is in the process of selling out... that just screams fundie right there. It does not matter if you are Christian, Muslim, Jew, Republican, Democrat, purple, or orange... this is what a fundie is made of! You STILL appear willing to support a candidate that sold out of IS selling out! Where is your self respect?
George Washington was right. As long as we keep calling each other by names like the North/South, Left/Right, Lib/Con, Republican/Democrat, Black/White then all we will do is proceed with tearing our nation apart in a power struggle to squelch the "other" side when we are all really on the same side!
Where government is concerned it has always been the Citizens vs Government. Government has slaughtered more than all war combined and corrupt economies have oppressed more people than any standing army. Do not let people like Bernie, Hillary, Trump, or some other "Politician" use YOU as a weapon against your fellow citizen!
Anyone training their H1-B replacement has witnessed a crime.
I would say anyone doing that has no spine. Yes you might have to give up a severance package. But if you take that package you are saying you can be bought for the cost of the package. Personally I prefer to not dig my own grave. Now if the severance package has two commas in the number that's a different story because then they aren't paying me to train my replacement, they are paying me to retire.
And yes, forcing people to train there replacements should be illegal without question. H1Bs are for when they cannot find domestic talent. If they are training their replacement then clearly the talent already exists domestically. You have to be a serious reptile to even ask people to do this sort of thing.
Training your replacement is demoralizing ...... I had to do it twice before being laid off...it sucks. However, that having been said - it's not the fault of the guy replacing you that your company is going in the direction it is. There was no reason for me to take my aggravation out on the guy I was training, it wasn't his fault. Not always an easy thing to do.
Just my .02
But we've already seen a Clinton in the White House so we have a pretty good idea what that would look like.
Yes indeed. A non-stop parade of deep corruption, routine law breaking, blatant lying over things both huge and trivial, and sleazy personal drama at every turn. Yay! Let's have some more of that.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
You do need to have a heart before it can be broken. (A conscience will also help.) Just sayin'
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
No, there is nothing about you or your skills that is so unique that you cannot be replaced.
And if your severance package depends upon you teaching your replacement how to do your job (see Disney), you are even easier to replace.
They may be useful, but they are not hard to find.
Unless you personally are working for Google or Facebook that kind of invalidates your position. You aren't so rare that Google is fighting to get you.
Look up "confirmation bias". You think that because your decisions have resulted in your position that anyone who has not achieved that position has made incorrect decisions. The reality is that when a company wants to cut their IT costs to save money, your skills will have nothing to do with their decision.
Perhaps Mrs. Clinton has observed that discussing any aspect of immigration in a negative way makes her more like Donald Trump -- a man whom she very often implies is pretty much the worst thing ever.
It's a bit interesting that when Mrs. Clinton talks negatively about immigration, she's described as empathetic for Americans.
Contrastingly, when Donald Trump talks about immigration, he's described as a racist.
I think people are wise to be suspicious of anyone running for public office. But, of Clinton, Johnson, and Trump, Trump is the only one that has ever said he wants to limit and reform immigration for the benefit of Americans who are seeking American jobs. He's also the one talking about punishing American companies who engage in behaviors that subvert American workers and jobs so replace them with foreign workers and jobs.
http://www.computerworld.com/a...
If you are upset with companies abusing immigration law to the detriment of American workers, and you wish someone would finally do something about it, Trump would seem like your candidate.
This election promises to be another "hold your nose" affair, but there do seem to be legitimate differences in what the candidates want to accomplish and how they want to do it.
My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Yes indeed. A non-stop parade of deep corruption, routine law breaking, blatant lying over things both huge and trivial, and sleazy personal drama at every turn. Yay! Let's have some more of that.
And that is different from any other administration how? Look into it and you'll find the Clinton's rap sheet to be (surprisingly) one of the shorter ones. Ronald Reagan's administration had FAR more indictments and convictions than Clinton's. Same with both Bush administrations. About the worst thing people can to pin on Bill Clinton is that he lied about a blowjob. I think the Clinton's can be pretty shady but sadly they aren't even close to the worst.
And if you think a Trump administration would be a paragon of honesty and decency you are delusional.
That's the media spin to be sure: anyone against immigration is racist. Also, don't forget the media spin that "Muslim" is a race. It's all bullshit.
Controlling the borders is the duty of any government, regardless of the race of the people on the other side of that border.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
I don't have any evidence of Trump naming or implying any race at any time with any of his various immigration comments.
His focus has been on
- stopping _illegal_ immigration
- stopping the legal immigration of people that are at an increased risk of becoming terrorists
- reducing immigration that appears to have a negative effect on American jobs
There is a tremendous amount of racial confirmation bias about Trump, in part because that's what the left always resorts to, and because he hasn't adopted SJW phrases and talking points.
Contrastingly, there is historical evidence of him breaking _down_ racial and other bigotry barriers in his personal and business life.
My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.