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Germany To Require 'Black Box' in Autonomous Cars (reuters.com)

Autonomous cars should be able to account for themselves, that's the thinking behind new legislation proposed by German's transport ministry. The country is planning new laws that require self-driving cars to include a black box, Reuters reports, similar to the flight recorder required on aircraft. From the report: The fatal crash of a Tesla Motors Inc Model S car in its Autopilot mode has increased the pressure on industry executives and regulators to ensure that automated driving technology can be deployed safely. Under the proposal from Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt, drivers will not have to pay attention to traffic or concentrate on steering, but must remain seated at the wheel so they can intervene in the event of an emergency. Manufacturers will also be required to install a black box that records when the autopilot system was active, when the driver drove and when the system requested that the driver take over, according to the proposals. The draft is due to be sent to other ministries for approval this summer, a transport ministry spokesman said.

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  1. Black box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here we go with the racist comments again. Why not a white box.

    #BlackBoxesMatter

  2. Misleading headline by drdread66 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WTF? The headline makes it seem like this is a done deal, but the text makes it clear this is legislation proposed by one of the govt ministries.

    An accurate headline would read "German transportation ministry proposed requirement for black boxes in autonomous vehicles."

    SMH.

  3. Re:Autonomous cars? by Nkwe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All cars should have black boxes.

    I think that all if not most new cars do have data recorders (black boxes), the question is: What should these data recorders record, and who should have access to the recordings? There is a wide possible spectrum. I would tend to agree with you if we required storage of the last few minutes of mechanical parameters likely to indicate the cause of a crash and make this data only accessible via a court order. I would tend not to agree with you if the data recorders stored months of mechanical data, computer logs, GPS history of where the car has been, video and audio of the drivers actions and or if this data was routinely uploaded to the cloud with no restrictions on access or monetization.

  4. Re:Autonomous cars? by NotInHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The usual way to do black boxes is to just record stuff, not sending it anywhere. If there is an accident, the black box data can be read out and the person causing the accident be found out more easily and effectively. That's a good thing IMO. Even if the black box in your own car is used to convict you, its a good system.

    Now, as we live in 2016, probably the black box will be designed in a way that it transmits the data live to the manufacturer, maybe even with kill switches. That's a bad thing, and I don't like it. Or take tesla's ability to OTA update the car software. this is just dangerous.

    So generally, I agree with black boxes, but do not agree with internet connected black boxes. Cars are not planes, they don't get lost at the bottom of the sea. (I do agree with internet connected black boxes for planes).