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Google and Bing Have No Obligation To Censor Searches For Torrents (betanews.com)

Microsoft and Google are under no obligation to weed out 'torrent' results from their respective search engines, the High Court of Paris has ruled. BetaNews adds: French music industry group SNEP went to court on behalf of a trio of artists, requesting that Microsoft and Google automatically filter out links to pirated material. The group had called for a complete block on searches that include the word 'torrent' as well as blocking sites whose name includes the word. The court found that SNEP's request was far too broad, saying: "SNEP's requests are general, and pertain not to a specific site but to all websites accessible through the stated methods, without consideration for identifying or even determining the site's content, on the premise that the term 'Torrent' is necessarily associated with infringing content".The court added that 'torrent' is a common noun, which has a range of different meanings.

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  1. .torrent!=pirated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not everything bittorrent is pirated content. Lots of Linux distributions offer torrent files as an alternative download method (often much faster than the mirrors), for example.

    1. Re:.torrent!=pirated by godrik · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Doesn't blizzard distribute its update using bittorrent?

      Sounds like it is : http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/c...

    2. Re:.torrent!=pirated by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes.
      Torrents are a protocol relating to efficient and distributed file transfer, that in no way is inherently piratical or illegal. There are legitimate uses for the protocol, even if piracy of music and entertainment is a fairly common use, too. Even if these groups got what they wanted, and people weren't allowed to search for "torrent", guess about how long before a new term would come into common use meaning the exact same thing? Hint: not long.

    3. Re:.torrent!=pirated by c · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if these groups got what they wanted, and people weren't allowed to search for "torrent", guess about how long before a new term would come into common use meaning the exact same thing?

      I'm fairly sure "magnet" already works as an alternative.

      Well... "magnet -juggalo", just to be safe.

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    4. Re:.torrent!=pirated by bobbied · · Score: 2

      I nominate "LawsuitBait" as a replacement..

      This coming from a guy that actively runs a torrent client which is serving up legal content 24/7 to the dismay of my ISP I'm sure.. I consider it my way to support CentOS and Debian to name a few.

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  2. Re:that's good by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

    It is, since how otherwise do you describe "a large amount of water that moves very quickly in one direction" (m-w entry)?

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  3. Strike! by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Funny

    French musicians will now strike in the streets, blocking traffic and blaring awful music in protest.

    1. Re:Strike! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Be grateful they don't play bagpipes.

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    2. Re:Strike! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's about as much of a threat as a strike at the DMV.

      I kid you not, when some bureaucrats around here threatened a strike, the general sentiment was "You're gonna tell us or how are we gonna know when you start?"

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  4. filetype:torrent by houghi · · Score: 2

    Just search for e.g. "the matrix" filetype:torrent

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  5. Prepare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... for the torrent of angry musicians

  6. Re:Streaming by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they had their way you would have to insert your credit card into the computer before it would allow you to browse the internet.

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  7. Efficiency depends. If the whole office is downloa by raymorris · · Score: 3, Informative

    My office employs mostly nerds who are into comic books, StarvWars, video games, etc. When a major new game version comes out, the office mostly shuts down for the day as everyone stays home to play the new release of the game.

    If a dozen of my co-workers are downloading the new Star Wars fan flick the day it comes out, Bittorrent is much more efficient than regular ftp or http downloads. Only one copy need be downloaded from the far-away server to our office. Mostly everybody copies it around the office, downloading from each other over the local LAN. That's WAY more efficient than downloading a dozen copies from a server 1,000 miles away. (In actual practice maybe twice the file size may be downloaded over the internet, which is six times more efficient than downloading a dozen copies over the internet).

    In less extreme cases, it's still more efficient to download mostly from other people in Texas than from the origin server in California.

    On the other hand, there is some overhead. In worst cases, Bittorrent can use more bandwidth than ftp.

    Also there are of course several ways to measure efficiency. Bittorrent is normally time-efficient. It's bandwidth efficient in that rather than requiring someone to buy a high upstream speed connection, it uses the idle upstream bandwidth that people are already paying for anyway. It can often be less bandwidth efficient in that there is overhead, using more total bandwidth.

    So whether or not it's efficient very much depends on a) the specific situation and b) which type of efficiency you're interested in.

  8. High court of Paris? by manu0601 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is this "high court of Paris"? There is no court named like that in France. Is it Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris? or Cour d'Appel de Paris? Or even Cour de Cassation, which is french supreme court?

    1. Re:High court of Paris? by rnash · · Score: 2

      What is this "high court of Paris"? There is no court named like that in France. Is it Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris? or Cour d'Appel de Paris? Or even Cour de Cassation, which is french supreme court?

      See the NextImpact article (French) : it is the "tribunal de grande instance de Paris".

      As it lost, the SNEP has to pay €10,000 to Microsoft and as much to Google.

  9. Re:So you're telling me... by matbury · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The French invented the modern word "torrent" (originally a Latin word, "torrentem") in the 16th century.

  10. Re:Efficiency depends. If the whole office is down by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    He said "fan film" - presumably at least some of those are legal.

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