China Bans Ad Blocking (adexchanger.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Two weeks ago, China released its first ever set of digital ad regulations that impacted Chinese market leaders like Baidu and Alibaba. "But hidden among (the new regulations) is language that would seem to all but ban ad blocking," wrote Adblock Plus (ABP) operations manager Ben Williams in a blog post Wednesday. The new regulations prohibit "the use of network access, network devices, applications, and the disruption of normal advertising data, tampering with or blocking others doing advertising business (or) unauthorized loading the ad." There is also a clause included that addresses tech companies that "intercept, filter, cover, fast-forward and [impose] other restrictions" on online ad campaigns. ABP general counsel Kai Recke said in an email to AdExchanger that the Chinese State Administration for Industry and Commerce (SAIC) has much more control over the market than its otherwise equal U.S. counterpart, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). "After all it looks like the Chinese government tries to get advertising more under their control and that includes that they want to be the only ones to be allowed to remove or alter ads," said Recke. "Ad-block users are a distinct audience and they require a distinct strategy and ways to engage them," said ABP CEO Till Faida at AdExchanger's Clean Ads I/O earlier this year. "They have different standards they've expressed for accessing them, and advertising has to reflect that."

Comments

I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Nova Express]

...bite me, China!

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

China sucks. I would not, however, invite them to bite me.

Re: I think I speak for all America when I say...

[davidwr]

I wouldn't invite them to Hoover me either.

Re: I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

Because they, well, [/b]suck.[b]

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[saloomy]

Sucks to be Chinese then. I'm sorry they don't even have the freedom to skip through/block ads.

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

...bite me, China!

Personally I don't think it is just us in the US that says "Suck my Balls" over this . I will use an ad blocker and if you don't like it, tough.

Re: I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

Sounds like Chinese government officials need a more thorough corruption purge. Sounds like someone (s) is/are on the take.

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been blocking ads for almost 20 years now. I'm ashamed of it because I know it denies income for people I like. I would gladly uninstall ABP if they would regulate ads tho. I was ok with slightly intrusive GIF banner ads, link exchanges, or anything that was woven into the websites by hand. I hate with passion full page ads, transition pages, flash ads, auto-play videos, etc. I'm ok with google's text link ads, apps that use ads as revenue.

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

Plus all the other shitty ads and the increasing "load a page and if you move the mouse slightly then a full page ad usually for their shitty newsletter covers the whole screen" The moment that happens I am off to another site and fuck their content. Oh, and there is the full page ad again for their shitty newsletters as soon an the load loads thus blocking all content. Why the hell would they think a visitor would immediately sign up for their shitty newsletter before reading one word of their content is beyond me. The moment that happens I am off to another site and fuck their content.

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

It sounds more like they are banning middle man ad blocks, ad switchers, etc. (eg. Brave) not end users who block ads at their computer.

Re:I think I speak for all America when I say...

[StikyPad]

They don't have the "freedom" to use pirated versions of Windows or hack foreign nations either. I'm sure this law will be enforced just as diligently as those.

I'm waiting for

[presidenteloco]

"China accidentally bans the declaration of new laws that have accidentally restrictive clauses."

That's OK

[penguinoid]

I don't use an adblocker, I use a scam/malware remover, bandwidth saver, page quality enhancer, and internet speed enhancer. But by a strange coincidence, it is called AdBlock.

Re:That's OK

[penguinoid]

I'd like to add that while it does sometimes block ads, it only blocks ads that aren't really owned by any legitimate businesses. For example, none of the businesses whose ads get blocked actually take responsibility for their ads should their ad be a scam ("Your computer has a virus, click here for your grandmother to install one for you while you aren't here to warn her its a virus") or directly contain malware with a Flash exploit.

Re:That's OK

[Threni]

Why don't you use ublock origin? It's like the others except leaner and doesn't make you faff around blocking "permitted" ads or whatever they call them.

Re:That's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't use an adblocker, I use a scam/malware remover, bandwidth saver, page quality enhancer, and internet speed enhancer. But by a strange coincidence, it is called AdBlock.

Do you think such an argument (even if it is true) would actually work in China if they tried to enforce this policy against you?

(Then again, would any argument, short of being a relative to somebody with real power, actually work in China if the authorities really wanted to get you?)

Re:That's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

Then again, would any argument, short of being a relative to somebody with real power, actually work in China if the authorities really wanted to get you?

Would any argument, short of being a relative to somebody with real power, actually work in *any country* if the authorities really wanted to get you?

Re:That's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah; your registered address is a house full of dynamite with a hair trigger on the door, and all you do is pick up the mail from the box and maintain the grounds.

This is a bad idea for the obvious reason.

Re:That's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

ABP has superior tools to create custom filters to block worthless, heavy page elements like scripts/videos/sidebars/headers/comments sections/"recommended" content/etc. Nuking the ads themselves is only the tip of the iceberg. Yes sometimes something's being whitelisted in ABP that shouldn't be, but a hosts entry fixes that 9 times out of 10.

Re:That's OK

[Thanshin]

Sorry, the judge doesn't speak English, doesn't care about your version, and won't even see your face before sending you a few years to prison.

Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[behrooz0az]

I think APK hosts file generator may actually work here.

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[amicusNYCL]

APK has nothing to do with it, there are several ways to manage a hosts file without requiring you to use a spammer's software to block ads. A quick search shows a program called HostsMan, for example. There's a small list of hosts managers here (including the one I mentioned, but that list doesn't include the software written by a notorious spammer), and another list here (also with a notable exclusion).

Even if you want a program to help you manage your hosts file, you still don't need to stoop to the level of a spammer, there are spam-free hosts file alternatives also (which should not be a surprise).

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[behrooz0az]

Slashdot never ceases to amaze me. I expected my post be either -1, Troll or +5, Funny. not a real answer.
Anyway, tnx. I don't live in china so I would probably never search for these programs.

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[amicusNYCL]

I think the lack of mods indicates that people have grown apathetic to APK. He used to be a serious nuisance, but the lack of his shit posts in threads lately indicates that the site managers (or others who have been contacted and made aware that he is using their names and reputations in his spam) mean that he has probably decided to find something else to do. I'm sure he'll be along eventually to pinch out a post or two, but you'll notice, for example, that instead of the direct links to his programs he's now linking you to search engine results on Bing or whatever, because of the Slashdot filters designed to remove his crap. He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing, but in general I think the 40+ spam posts by him in a single thread are a thing of the past.

Then again, maybe people are just saving their mod points for him. And I have 15 too, too bad I already posted.

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is any of those solutions as efficient as Host File Engine 9.0++? No and I can prove it! With Host File Engine 9.0++ you can block over 400000 threats.

Faster & MORE EFFICIENT operation vs. browser plugins (which "layer on" ontop of slower Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode browsers increasing messagepassing overheads slowing them more & they're written in slower INTERPRETED languages (e.g. AdBlock = python/perl/javascript)- Whereas by way of comparison, the hosts file operates @ the Ring 0/RPL 0/Kernelmode of operation (far faster) as a filter for the IP stack itself, written in C & Assembly language (run directly @ Operating System startup w/ the IP stack, making browser/usermode advertiser owned 'solutions' like Ghostery + AdBlock, advertisers crippled!

It only allows pre-approved ads through that i have personally reviewed AND negotiated!

-apk

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[Anonymous Coward]

"It only allows pre-approved ads through that i have personally reviewed AND negotiated!"

SHULD B "IT ONELY ALLOW PR3-APPROVED ADS THRU DAT I HAV PERSONALLY R3VUED AND N3GOATIATED AND FAPPED TO."
THE REEL APK (USING MY BROTHER'S VIC-20. ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTIONS!)

Re:Well, I never thought I'd say this, EVER...

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Just for sake of correctness, Javascript hasn't been interpreted for a decade, unless you're using obsolete software. Likewise, arguing about C and assembly when algorithms actually matter is pointless. Plus, it has repeatedly been demonstrated that ring 0 execution of code isn't actually desirable for performance if you want something frequent to run fast - inlining the respective piece of code to avoid syscalls can be more desirable than jumping into kernel mode all the time. See futexes vs. kernel-provided mutexes, for example. Ditto for the recent moves of graphics driver features into userspace. Ditto the non-kernel-related but conceptually similar case of Chrome moving to Blink (removing marhsalling costs for DOM access and integrating it into JS engine optimizations).

All You Need to Know

[brwski]

This tell you all you need to know â" ads are now officially surveillance tools. Why they'd admit such a thing is unclear. Continue to block, block, block away.

Re:All You Need to Know

[golden_hands]

Not necessarily- Perhaps the CCP( Chinese Communist Party) expects to have propaganda ads along with the other commercial ads and they don't want those to be blocked.

The real reason

[Anonymous Coward]

So is this just a tacit admission that AdBlockers are inadvertently screening out some of the government surveillance tools?

Money Talks Again.

[zenlessyank]

He who has the money but isn't getting it at a flow rate that satisfies him, gets to make the rules that ensure that flow rate is satisfactory.

Re:Money Talks Again.

[amicusNYCL]

if ads == money

There's a false equivalence if I've ever seen one. If that's your premise, and your premise is false, then the rest of your post doesn't matter.

Ads are not the same as money. Ads are also malware distribution vectors, privacy invaders, resource hogs, a waste of screen space, etc. Money is none of those things. If ad distributors wanted to actually take responsibility and clean up their industry, fine, we would be having a different conversation. But they have proven for decades that they don't want to do those things, so this is the conversation we're having.

Re:Money Talks Again.

[zenlessyank]

^^^ This. And to add that the internet was designed to be open. I pay for my internet connection. It gives me a rest stop and an on/off ramp. I can put up a sign so you can stop too. I might put up a little museum. I might charge you to get in. I might not. I may sell trinkets in my museum. I may not. You can do the exact same thing. Anyone who tries to stop or mutate that is not an open traveler and is not welcome on the internet. You decided to drive on our highway with an unlicensed piece of shit vehicle that is dangerous. I put up a gate to my on/off ramp to keep you from coming to my museum. Get over it.

Re:Money Talks Again.

[Anonymous Coward]

No. Money is something a consumer provides to a service provider in exchange for a service. An ad on the web is not something the website consumer provides to the website, it is something the website instructs the consumer to collect from a third party. If that equals money it behaves like money with a negative value that the consumer did *not* agree to receive in advance. I don't see how anyone can be obliged to accept receiving negative value from a non-government entity without having agreed to it first.

Great Firewall

[Architect_sasyr]

So... China bans the Great Firewall?

Re:Great Firewall

[magarity]

Yes indeed, I was just thinking that now some Chinese website needs to have embedded Google Ads.

What about text-only browsers?

[davidwr]

They inherently block ads that contain no text.

Does this mean blind people will be forced to use a regular browser and a screen reader so as not to block the ad from showing up on their computer? That seems inefficient to the point of being stupid.

Re:What about text-only browsers?

[DivineKnight]

In a word, yes.

If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Nyder]

If the TPP is past, Corporations will be able to sue Governments for getting in the way of their making profit. So you can damn well bet that the advertisement networks will sue to get any type of ad blocking banned. And they will be backed by most other corporations also, so ya, this will be coming to America.

Re:If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

Good thing the TPP is future, then.

Re:If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

Good thing this is China, which isn't a signatory to the TPP?

Re:If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

You underestimate American lawyers' ability to play word games. It's not "ad blocking", it's "untrusted access prevention". It's "unrequested bandwidth waste reduction". It's "filtering of invalid data".

Nobody is going to watch anyones' ads unless they wish to or are too uninformed to use an ad blocker, both of which are the watcher's fault and no one else's.

Re:If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

Posting Anon, to as to preserve moderation elsewhere in this thread...

If your analysis is correct this would seems to be a case of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't"!

Situation 1: As you describe above - although I'm not sure I (or you) understand the situation correctly. If a government has made no law regarding online advertisements then the online advertisers have no grounds to sue the government for loss of profits*. Sure they can lobby the government to introduce such a law, which leads us to...

Situation 2: Government passes law banning ad-blockers - manufacturers of ad-blockers sue government for loss of profits.

*Perhaps you could explain how you see the situation differently?

Re:If the TPP is past, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

Just in case you didn't know it: companies can already sue the government today, in most countries except the USA. Sovereign immunity isn't that widespread. And yet, you don't see a wide range of European governments being convicted, or even sued.

The reason is simple: corporations may have the right to pursue profits, but governments are allowed to have an almost infinite set of goals. Even under TPP, a government can get win any case just by showing it was acting rationally in support of an allowable public policy. IOW, a government has to act in bad faith to be convicted - think nepotism, that is not an allowable public policy. Under TPP, Trump can't favor his own businesses.

Malware creators everywhere rejoice

[The MAZZTer]

We may very well see an uptick in legitimate site's ads used to deliver malware because of this.

Re:Malware creators everywhere rejoice

[ThatAblaze]

Especially the government sponsored malware.

Can they do that?

[Anonymous Coward]

What kind of place is this, America?

Re:Rad Rocking Rocked

[Anonymous Coward]

Roe Noes! PC rolice ron the scene!! Regative roints replied. Riblals reed a tissue.

That's not what "all but..." means

[Anonymous Coward]

"All but bans" means exactly that: all BUT the bans; NO BAN. How fucking hard should it have to be for your native english speakers to get your own language?

Re: That's not what "all but..." means

[Anonymous Coward]

For a foreigner like me, this really got me confused. I know what they mean, but they say something different. I hate people who do that.

If they go too far

[istartedi]

If the Chinese go too far, people will sour on the whole idea of business. There will be a backlash. They'll have a communist revolution on their hands. Of course I've been making this joke for a while now...20 years seems about right. The insanity just keeps rolling along... like a tank.

Re:If they go too far

[Anonymous Coward]

If the Chinese go too far, people will sour on the whole idea of business. There will be a backlash. They'll have a communist revolution on their hands. Of course I've been making this joke for a while now...20 years seems about right. The insanity just keeps rolling along... like a tank.

...only in Tiananmen Square...

which actually did stop, by the way. The driver had to wait for that protestor to move.

Re:If they go too far

[Anonymous Coward]

The insanity just keeps rolling along... like a tank.

...only in Tiananmen Square...

which actually did stop, by the way. The driver had to wait for that protestor to move.

Unlike if you stood in the middle of the road in Whitehall, or I expect Fifth Avenue, where the next car would run you over with the driver shouting abuse. But that would be OK as it would be a democratic running-over.

Advertisers are basically China

[Anonymous Coward]

Makes it much easier to understand advertisers behavior now.

Reading too much into it

[Anonymous Coward]

I think you're reading too much into it.
1) Adblock/Adblock Pro, and it's users are generally more "tech-savvy" and more likely to have completely unfounded reasons to block ads
2) Chinese companies are more likely to cheat ad networks, so this wording is likely directed at mechanisms to cheat at networks, like those chains of popups when you view pirate sites.

Regardless of your point of view on the matter, I don't see "banning adblock" being enforceable short of having service providers handing over the IP addresses of visitors that don't view ads, which is easily monitored, but difficult to say "this person viewed one ad on every page, while this other person only viewed one ad in the entire month but viewed the page 400,000 times."

Re:If the TPP is passed, this will come to America

[Anonymous Coward]

China already has other treaties in place with ISDS, it's simply a matter of venue shopping until the relevant treaties are linked and presented so someone can sue China over this, just like in all the plain-packaging cigarette laws being "sued" over.

Also... passed. Passed is past tense for pass, I'm sure in the future you'll remember this message from your past when using the word passed to refer to the passing of treaties and legislation.

Ad BLOCKING?

[ememisya]

What about ad corrupting? A plugin in every navigation software which randomly clicks ads? I'd say stop it by reducing the value of the data you are being forced to see. I suppose putting a sticker on the monitor where ads are is also an option.

No. It should say Chinese GOVERNMENT bans.

[Anonymous Coward]

The Chinese people don't ban their own ad blockers. You people are looking for trouble. Populations destroy governments who fuck up like this. The people are actually the employees.

That's Insane!

[BrendaEM]

Why would a communist country ban a program defeats a device of capitalism?

Re:That's Insane!

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would a communist country ban a program defeats a device of capitalism?

What country are you talking about?

Re:That's Insane!

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would CHINA ban a technique that prevents advertising, (a very capitalistic way of separating people from their money). When leaving ads blocked would, in fact, seem to preserve CHINA's Communistic edict of not buying into the world of materialism.

Keep attending to this conversation because the answer will certainly be uploaded.

Re:That's Insane!

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, remember the ads are just what we see. The technique for delivering them is a very useful vehicle for other injections, scripts, and various tools to be delivered to a computer :)

So that's the techie answer, the geo-politics of the issue though is this: China is actually very keen on Capitalism- well the business side of it. Remember Capitalism is market & sales policies, not the voting, popular representation, freedoms, etc. that are separate and unlikeable by Communism.

No they are not

[Anonymous Coward]

The language of the submission clearly implies network neutrality style equal access regulation for the advertising companies. Does ABP now think it unfairly distorts advertising markets themselves? Geez, I hope not, or my favourite browser add-on might disappear or become useless one day.

In Communist China...

[sonamchauhan]

...Ads block you!

"Take that, you capitalist running-dogs!"

Probably not

[jandersen]

... prohibit "the use of network access, network devices, applications, and the disruption of normal advertising data, tampering with or blocking others doing advertising business (or) unauthorized loading the ad."

I have read through this string of words several times and still find it hard to read that interpretation into it. The way I read it, it says that it is illegal to hinder your competitors' online advertising in any way - and even I, who fundamentally dislike adverts in any form, find it hard to see that as anything but quite reasonable. Banning users from using adblockers etc would be absurd - like demanding that people must stop to look at advertising posters or have to watch tv adverts. Another thing I notice is that this comes from a website with the address http://adexchanger.com/ - I couldn't be bothered to go and read it, but the name suggests they are in the advertising business - wouldn't a ban on adblockers be a wet dream of theirs?

Re:Probably not

[Cederic]

Plus of course it doesn't prevent you from just not attempting to access the server hosting the ad content in the first place.

Which is what good ad blockers actually do.

I think the issue is not ABP / uBlock

[GuB-42]

Our usual ad blockers are probably not what is targeted by this law. And if they are, it is easy to work around it by shipping the software (which is basically a browser-based firewall) and the lists separately. uBlock especially doesn't even market itself as an ad-blocker.

What is more problematic is when the end user is not in control of the list. For example, some ISPs offer (or offered) an ad-blocking option. This is totally against net neutrality, I don't want my ISP to decide what is good for me or not (kinda ironic in china but still...). Even worse are those that hijack ads and replace them with their own. There is a difference between choosing not to look at billboards and tearing or covering them off.

Well, this is what I think of. The translation in TFS are so poor that it isn't clear at all what the law is all about.

Great job! Karl would be proud.

[sabbede]

You're doing great China! Keeping the spirit of Communism alive, and honoring the memory of Marx and Mao in the best way possible - making sure nobody interferes with advertising!

Hostsman's inferior in 3 ways

[Anonymous Coward]

1st: It doesn't take advantage of speedup & security by hardcoded favorites (where you spend most time online) vs. DNS hijacks or being downed...

2nd: It has dependencies on others' 3rd party BEYOND STD. OS API libs (SQLite) - mine doesn't & is self-contained single .exe file code... if those libs like sqlite develop a bug, they have to wait out the fix - I don't.

3rd: It's 'stuck' in 32-bit, whereas by comparison, my program has a native true 64-bit version...

APK

P.S.=> Still a decent program, but it falls short of MINE in those 3 areas (adding it would be imitation @ this point of MY work)... apk

Re:Hostsman's inferior in 3 ways

[amicusNYCL]

It has a major benefit though: it's not developed by a known spammer/troll.

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?...

Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus (slows you) + less security issues/complexity.

Compliments firewalls (blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lightens dns load).

Gets data via 10 security sites.

Ads rob speed, security (malvertising), privacy (tracking).

Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively.

Hosts != ClarityRay blockable (vs. souled-out to admen inferior wasteful redundant slow usermode addons)

Works vs. caps & PUSH ads.

Avg. page = big as Doom http://www.theregister.co.uk/2... & ads = 40% of it.

APK

P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/... (Verified by Malwarebytes' S. Burn "seen the code & it's safe" http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... )

Don't impersonate me, ok?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I don't allow ANY ads thru unlike what you said as you attempt to impersonate me (to make me look 'bad', no doubt - pretty pitiful tactic!)

* Ads = too dangerous & slow you down...

APK

P.S.=> As far as AmicusNYCL & his bullshit? He CLAIMS to be a software engineer but I don't see ANYTHING from him, much less a program of the calibre that I have done for these purposes in APK Hosts File Engine which the best antimalware in the world's people HOST & RECOMMEND for me no less!

No - he's ALL talk & a blowhard bullshitter I've trashed here on technicals MANY times, e.g. -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which he RAN from... apk

Re:Don't impersonate me, ok?

[amicusNYCL]

which he RAN from

I like how you link to a post from Feb. 25th in a thread that includes posts by me up to Mar. 8th (the last word, even). That's a seriously slow run I've got there, isn't it?

IF kernelmode doesn't matter for speed

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Why were graphics moved from usermode in NT 3.5x onward to kernelmode (later DirectX)? PERFORMANCE = the answer stupid. GAMES WERE TOO SLOW OTHERWISE!

(They're usermode again afaik in 7 iirc, but DirectX was implemented slightly before that, iirc partially in Win2000, moreso in XP, but the performance in a usermode GUI layer (via User32 & GDI) were TOO slow... Yes, they moved them back OUT (due to DirectX) to usermode but only after a HELL of a lot of work using DirectX fully implemented (or in AeroGlass too iirc))

APK

P.S.=> TcpIP where hosts are used in kernelmode is a HIGHLY PRIVELEGED SUBSYSTEM & designed to run there FOR BETTER PERFORMANCE too... apk

Re: IF kernelmode doesn't matter for speed

[behrooz0az]

Kernel mode is only worth if it there are loads of data or the data is already there like multiple frames each consisting of millions of pixels, also graphics output/input buffers, DMA. that kind of stuff are all already there.
linux libc is in usermode and it processes dns resolution.I don't know about windows.
We're not talking about performance here. just functionality which I think is fairly good for the matter at hand.

Re: IF kernelmode doesn't matter for speed

[K. S. Kyosuke]

They're usermode again

Your honour, I rest my case.

Re: IF kernelmode doesn't matter for speed

[Anonymous Coward]

Apk put you all to rest with how hosts benefit running in kernelmode as do graphics and webservers https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... and you don't seem to realize you've proved his point on that. You even said "if the data is right there" which it is in the ip stack for hosts since it's part of it that it makes sense for better performance!

Who cares!?!

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck china.

AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

Adblock can't do these tasks as well as hosts or @ all 4 speed, security & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnet C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnet C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnet C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned/downed dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam payloads
9.) Protect vs. phish payloads
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up 2 ways (adblocks & hardcodes)
14.) Ez data edit

APK

P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently (151mb hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/adblocker-memory-consumption.jpg ) - ClarityRay defeats it Ab+'s crippled http://www.businessinsider.com/google-microsoft-amazon-taboola-pay-adblock-plus-to-stop-blocking-their-ads-2015-2 & it's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions/686041/which-leads-to-faster-browsing-an-ad-blocker-or-an-edited-hosts-file

UBlock = inferior + inefficient imitation

[Anonymous Coward]

UBlock can't do these as well as (or @ all) hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnet C&C's
3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnet C&C's
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnet C&C's
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS
6.) Protect vs. DNS poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam payloads
9.) Protect vs. phish payloads
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up 2 ways (adblocks/hardcodes)
14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) Ez data edit
16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu/ram/I-O use
17.) UBlock now uses hosts (no DNS benefits vs. dns issues) - poor imitation = "sincerest form of flattery"

Hosts = native vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" & not ClarityRay blockable like addons.

APK

P.S.=> Hosts (1st resolver) do MORE w/ less in fast kernelmode vs. slow usermode addons

Hosts ~3mb vs. UBlock = 64MB -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

Unenforcable anyway.

[djnforce9]

I doubt they are going to check every computer for Adblock. Either banning ad blocking was an unintended side effect of overly broad language or the brains behind this legislation is clueless about technology.

UBlock = inferior + inefficient imitation

[Anonymous Coward]

UBlock can't do these as well as (or @ all) hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnet C&C's
3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnet C&C's
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnet C&C's
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam payloads
9.) Protect vs. phish payloads
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up 2 ways (adblocks/hardcodes)
14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) Ez data edit
16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu/ram/I-O use
17.) UBlock now uses hosts (no DNS benefits vs. dns issues) - poor imitation = "sincerest form of flattery"

Hosts = native vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" & not ClarityRay blockable like addons.

APK

P.S.=> Hosts (1st resolver) do MORE w/ less in fast kernelmode & before slow usermode addons

Hosts ~3mb vs. UBlock = 64MB -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

Why's the IP stack in kernelmode then?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: It's FASTER (due to higher privilege to CPU & access to cycles 1st) & yes, it's what runs hosts data - & even you admit kernelmode's faster now!

* You saying the IP stack should be in slower usermode?

APK

P.S.=> I get around Windows' faulty dnscache (yes in usermode slower too like Linux, but it BREAKS DOWN with larger hosts files - Linux doesn't so you know) saving CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O by TURNING IT OFF & instead opting to use the kernelmode diskcaching subsystem WORKING IN COMBINATION with TCP/IP (IP stack) in PURE KERNELMODE, no transition/context switch too (all faster done this way & less wasteful on a BROKEN slower usermode system in dnscache in Windows)... apk

Graphics only? WRONG... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

IIS 6.x moved subsystems into kernelmode http://blog.codinghorror.com/u... due to speed increases there too (so much for "graphics only" on your part, big mistake).

PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

"Microsoft's IIS 6 moved a sizable chunk of its core functionality into Kernel mode, most notably after a particular open-source webserver leveraged Kernel mode to create a huge industry benchmark victory"

APK

P.S.=> I just LOVE tearing up you wannabes with facts vs. your bullshit... apk

Re:Graphics only? WRONG... apk

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Well well well, what do you know...they did it to avoid kernel space-user space transitions, since those are expensive. And guess what, what happens when a packet comes from the outside to a computer? Right, an interrupt happens and the computer starts processing it in kernel mode! So it makes sense to have the relevant facilities in kernel space, assuming that they aren't buggy (that would be really bad for security). But the exact same logic justifies putting address translation for user mode applications in user space - because keeping a facility in the same place where it's being used leaves in on the other side of the wall in this case! Computer systems 101.

Re:When a pitiful blowhard like you

[amicusNYCL]

I'll just quote myself.

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

Thanks for proving me right.

Blowhard bullshitter, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Lots of "talk" from you & no proof better than mine. Like your pal Behrooz Amoozad I blew away https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* To quote "Good Will Hunting": "Do you know how easy this is for me? This is a joke & I wouldn't have to sit around here watching you FUMBLE IT AROUND & FUCK IT UP!"

(Since Lord knows BOTH of you did, see that link for him & for you? Your EVASIONS do the rest, lol!)

APK

P.S.=> This is just (& you just KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it, now don't you? Ah, but of COURSE you do) "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" blowing away do-nothing ZERO "ne'er-do-wells" like both of you, lol... apk

Re:Blowhard bullshitter, lol... apk

[amicusNYCL]

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

Over, and over, and over again. Go ahead, post again and prove me right yet again. Maybe you should link to a past argument we had as "evidence", even though it only shows me making fun of you. That should help your case.

Rename...

[Anonymous Coward]

Ad-Blocking apps should rename themselves as Malware-Blocking apps to keep doing the same but with the right name :v . Whitelist check being "Enable dubious sites".

Re:Rename...

[Anonymous Coward]

FIX for the last part...

"Enable dubious content"

Stupid, it goes for hosts too (IP stack data)

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: & NOT just graphics gains speed (which I brought up) so guess what?

You guessed it - YOU fail, lol!

Guess what else falls under your bs?

Browser addon USERMODE adblockers (that don't do a FRACTION of what hosts do for less, & DNS? LOADED with security issues galore, massive overheads, remote latency (should I go on?)) - combined w/ how I do it (killing usermode faulty w/ large hosts data dnscache in Windows)? Even makes MORE sense, keeping it PURE KERNELMODE (diskcaching kernelmode subsystem assumes caching of hosts data).

* Shit TOO easy for me... especially considering ALL MOST OF YOU TROLLS HERE ARE JUST "TALK", but very FEW creators of useful wares like myself.

APK

P.S.=> There IS a difference, a HUGE one (as anyone can "talk a game").... apk

I like when you "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!!"

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* :)

APK

P.S.=> Forrest... lmao! apk

AmicusNYCL you wish you were me... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52553407 as I'm out there doing FAR more for FAR less in terms of added speed, security, reliability & even anonymity vs. ANY single "so-called 'solution'" that's illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" yet also illogically doing less (poor ROI) via what we all already NATIVELY have...

(My work's SO good, & SO effective (100% bulletproof & bugfree too) even the best antimalware on the planet's people both HOST & RECOMMEND it... )

* How about you?

APK

P.S.=> This ought to be a hilarious reply outta you - FULL of evasions against that question above, lol... apk

Re:AmicusNYCL you wish you were me... apk

[amicusNYCL]

How about me?

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

Seriously APK, just keep on fucking that chicken, man. All I do is say that you keep claiming victory in a game that you're the only one playing, and you respond by barfing out a bunch of your "achievements", as if anyone gives a flying fuck about what you're doing. In other words, you do exactly what I said you were going to do.

Here, let me try to illustrate. Recently I spent a few weeks traveling around Brazil, and I got engaged to my girlfriend. Do you fucking care about any of that? No? Then why do you assume that anyone gives a shit about you?

Here, let me drop this here again, so that again you can respond like an idiot and prove my point again. Maybe we can make it 4 times in one thread APK, what do you think?

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

OK, little Pavlov, it's your turn. Speak, boy!

I'm about to marry my girlfriend and you think I would rather be an old unloved has-been with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. You're a funny guy, APK. As much as I've always wanted to be a hated spammer like yourself slowly wasting away, I think I'm fine just being me.

AmicusNYCL you wish you were me... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... as I'm out there doing FAR more for FAR less in terms of added speed, security, reliability & even anonymity vs. ANY single "so-called 'solution'" that's illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" yet also illogically doing less (poor ROI) via what we all already NATIVELY have...

(My work's SO good & SO effective (100% bulletproof & bugfree too) even the best antimalware on the planet's people both HOST & RECOMMEND it... not some "1st" for me, it's been quite commonplace the past 2++ decades actually for me...)

* How about you?

APK

P.S.=> This ought to be a hilarious reply outta you - FULL of evasions against that question above, lol... apk

No, it doesn't ban ad blocking

[Anonymous Coward]

The original order prohibits an advertiser or a business from blocking its competitor's ads. Funny how this headline is being constantly trolled.

Knew it, I was right... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

The 1 program I put out here is more than you can show (& I have dozens since 1996, some even commercially sold successful varieties from an MS certified partner).

APK

P.S.=> Sucks to be you - YOU, who came in here talking trash about me... you got what you had coming - you being exposed for what you are, a "ne'er-do-well" troll... apk

Re:Knew it, I was right... apk

[amicusNYCL]

The 1 program I put out here is more than you can show

Keep proving my point, buddy. You are the only one playing this game. Just because I choose to not show you anything I've done, and thereby reveal who I am, does not mean I have nothing to show for my work. Again, keep proving me right. Keep playing that 1-player game and shouting "victory!" Maybe one day someone will believe that you've won something.

You're sitting there playing a game of checkers, except you're moving the pieces for both sides, and halfway through the game you take a shit on the board, flip it over, and yell "victory!", and run around celebrating and talking about how great of a checkers player you are to anyone who will listen (which is only you, because no one else is even in the room). And you do it over, and over, and over, almost like it's the only way you know how to act. That sums up your history of Slashdot posts.

Re:Knew it, I was right... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You came in here talking crap about the guy and he exposed you're a trolling idiot who starts problems. Get a life.

Re:You came here talking shit about me

[amicusNYCL]

APK, how many times are you going to keep trying to prove me right? You've already done it buddy, take a rest. Take a little break. You've proven me right, what, four times in this thread alone? Five? How many more times are you going to prove me right?

Well, shit, might as well make it one more time, right? So, go ahead, respond to this post by saying how your work is so much more impressive than mine, even though you know fuck-all about my work, and make sure to add something about the fact that I want to remain anonymous on this site. Also, please list the same so-called "accomplishments" that you always list. I'd like one more victory before this thread ends, so please, just humor me.

Now, King Me, you fucking shitheel.

You came here talking shit about me

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: It's true. So I expose you as a bullshitter "ne'er-do-well" do nothing talker compared to myself giving users more speed, security, reliability & anonymity the most efficient way in kernelmode speed (vs. usermode & resource + complexity bloat as well as security issues that come with other "so-called 'solutions'" some of which are 'souled-out' to NOT work right by default).

* Tough cookies, but you brought it on yourself...

APK

P.S.=> Anyone can "talk" a game, very few can back it (I'm one who can & is quite PROUD of what I've made for FREE for anyone)... You're just a blowhard who hides behind a fake name online (since it's obvious you're a zero)... apk

Re:You came here talking shit about me

[amicusNYCL]

Haha, right on schedule, again I appreciate you continuing to prove me right.

As for me "talking shit" about you, in the first 2 posts in this thread I called you a spammer (which is a demonstrably true fact, not a statement of opinion), and then I predicted exactly what you were going to do over, and over, and over again. That's not talking shit, that's telling it exactly like it is. I give you a rope, and you hang yourself with it. So that's my "shit talking", a couple statements of fact, which were quickly followed by you doing exactly what I said you were going to do.

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

I realize that your limited and stunted emotional development also makes it very difficult for you to come up with any new arguments, but every single one of your posts in this thread does nothing except prove my prediction correct. It's time to quit while you're behind, save up your wits for the next ad blocking story on Slashdot and maybe spend the time to come up with a new argument. When your entire argument is you repeating the exact same crap 6 times in one thread, each time proving me right, then it becomes too easy to predict and you really need to re-evaluate your so-called accomplishments.

I'll now leave to allow you to get back to sucking my balls. Thank you.

You prove you're a do-nothing "ne'er-do-well"

[Anonymous Coward]

AmicusNYCL We realize YOU CAN'T BACKUP YOUR BULLSHIT! You can't show you've done the same as I have for users getting them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity (I can & a competitor of mine you brought up? INFERIOR-> https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & you KNOW it (you can't argue that much even as you gave up lol))

See subject: That truth about you makes you dance & evade answering questions I asked you above, lol - it's hilarious!

Plus, unlike you?

I've done SO WELL in computing the best antimalware on the planet's people both HOST & RECOMMEND my work - NOT YOURS (you have none) & I've got commercially sold wares from certified MS partners out there (not a 1st for me either, FAR from it)... you? Just don't & NEVER will, Mr. hide behind FAKE names... lol!.

APK

P.S.=> No small wonder you hide behind your FAKE NAME online - you're fake (& you know it, proving it for me here in fact, lol) - you can't even evidence you DO program... apk

Re:You prove you're a do-nothing "ne'er-do-well"

[amicusNYCL]

Wait, what's that sound? Is it the sound of the exact same BS being trotted out for a seventh time in a row? APK, the only sound I want to hear from you is soft slurping as you gently caress my balls.

Get a new argument. Haha, sorry, I know you can't. I just like to dream.

He'll still post some spam and claim victory in a game where he's the only one playing

Funny I blew your ass clean away here, lol

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I dusted you on a competitor of mine & you had NOTHING of value on topic in response https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* As always, it's been a COMPLETE PLEASURE knocking another /. "ne'er-do-well" DO NOTHING right the fuck out...

APK

P.S.=> LMAO... apk

Re:Funny I blew your ass clean away here, lol

[amicusNYCL]

Yeah, wow, you really showed me, APK. You're truly a mental heavyweight of debate and argument, what with your endless repeating of the same tired bullshit. I didn't learn that tactic, that must only be taught in the master classes.

I dusted you

Pointing out that an application uses SQLite and only has a 32-bit version is "dusted". Learn something new every day I guess.

You're still a spamming troll though, that much isn't going to change. And anyone else is still flat-out stupid for running any executable delivered by a spammer. We all know what the first rule is when dealing with spammers, don't we?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go nurse all of these just awful wounds that you've inflicted on me. I just can't tell you how much I'm suffering over here.

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You OMIT another feature hostsman lacks

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Hardcoded favorites that resolve FASTER by far vs. remote DNS + protection vs. DNS hijacks (which it's loaded with security issues BY THE TRUCKLOAD + INEFFICIENCIES GALORE -> https://news.slashdot.org/comm... LISTED BY DOZENS OF CATEGORIES THERE & hundreds of examples thereof)

APK

P.S.=> I don't spam: Hosts apply here stupid - I post where hosts apply (or to defend myself against morons like yourself that haven't done SQUAT (which is a FACT regarding you - you can't prove otherwise))... apk

Re:You OMIT another feature hostsman lacks

[amicusNYCL]

Wow, stop dusting me please! I just almost got all of the dust off me, and look at this, you just toss all of this more on!

Listen, I'm not going to do a feature-by-feature comparison of other programs compared to yours. There are several reasons for that. The primary one is that I have never and will never use your software, so I don't know or care what features it has.

The entire point of bringing up other programs is to show that using software written by a spammer is not a requirement if you want something to manage your hosts file. And that is a statement of fact. Is it feature-for-feature equivalent? Of course not, why write the exact same piece of software? But you don't need to download and run a spammer's software if you want to manage your hosts file. That's my point, argue about your own features or accomplishments all you want, it doesn't change my point.

P.S.=> I don't spam

Yes, APK, you DO spam. You have a fantastic 20 or so year history of online posts where you are spamming. Are you spamming right here, right now? That doesn't matter, you're still a spammer. You still spam, whether you are doing it right now or not. You have spent considerable time earning the right to be called a spammer. Remember all of those Slashdot threads where you would post 40 ads in the same thread? Someone would down-mod one piece of spam, and you come along and post another, and then rejoice about how you're "defeating" the moderation system in order to get your spam seen. Remember that? That's called being a spammer, APK. It doesn't matter that the thread was about ad blocking, if you go in and post 40 ads then you are spamming. People who spam are called spammers. You are a spammer. Slashdot has actually written a series of filters specifically to stop your spam. I'm sure you're going to claim victory and gloat about trying to defeat those also, which is exactly how a spammer would react. It doesn't matter if you are doing it right this second or not, you're a spammer.

I'm sure you've heard the joke. It applies to you. You might not be spamming right now, but you ARE a spammer.

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You trying to argue that you're not a spammer is like trying to argue that you're not a child molester because you only did it those 4 times! I'm not molesting a child right now, so I'm not a child molester! That's your logic.

I'm on topic w/ my solution that works

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: You're off topic & my program works BETTER than what you suggested https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52553273 in hostsman (which you didn't write either).

* You're failing on ALL possible levels...

APK

P.S.=> I laughed when you TRIED to AVOID one part about it that makes it a LOT better for both speed & security here (that I had to add to "rub it in" good to you, lol)-> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52586705

My program does it (making it superior to hostsman) - you on the other hand have CREATED NOTHING of VALUE nor are you on topic... you're trolling, losing, & are clearly a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing as well! apk

Re:I'm on topic w/ my solution that works

[amicusNYCL]

You're off topic

No I'm not, I responded to a suggestion that someone should use your program with a series of alternatives. Then I predicted that you were going to show up and start trolling. Then you showed up and started trolling. And here we are.

You know all about trolling. Maybe you should go troll the other comments I'm posting and then talk about how you're on topic, not a troll, and not a spammer. Because when you're jacking off some 4 year old kid while yelling that you're not a child molester it totally makes sense.

Wait, what's that? You're claiming victory again? In a game that only you're playing? What are we up to now, have you proven me right 12 times in one thread? I've lost count.

Let's make it one more time, APK. Keep digging that hole, you're not done yet.

Your solution's like you - INFERIOR vs. me

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & this-> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52553273 especially on the 1st point which you AVOID here-> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52586705 which was HILARIOUS, lol, & where I posted it originally - your response there?

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC - I left you in the dust as usual is why!

Solutions you suggest are inferior. You are inferior.

(You're not on topic now, but my work, clearly is (I didn't even bring it up) & it works for more speed, security, reliability + anonymity for users...)

* AmicusNYCL - when YOU can do better, YOURSELF?

Then talk... otherwise?

You're nothing but what I said you are which YOU MADE FACT - a do nothing blowhard windbag, & nothing more... toss ALL the names you want to, doesn't change this fact.

APK

P.S.=> You sure "talk a big game" but when the chips are down, you can't back it up (show us you've done BETTER work & this program of mine? It's only a TINY FRACTION of what I could put up to MY name/credit - as I don't "hide" online behind FAKE NAMES as you do, because you're a fake)... apk

Re:Your solution's like you - INFERIOR vs. me

[amicusNYCL]

Jesus, APK. Some things never change. Like your arguments. Next I'm sure you're going to claim that you don't post as people other than yourself, let's go back to that old classic.

This is going nowhere. Like your life. Take care.

No, you said I had no other arguments

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: So I presented one where MY software was SUPERIOR to the one you suggested & how/why https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* To that, You had zero valid technical rebuttal - just offtopic trolling FALSE accusations (as I am on topic, & I didn't even BRING UP HOSTS, others did whom I also later CRUSHED technically on KERNELMODE NOT JUST BEING FOR GRAPHICS SPEED UP BUT WEB DATA TOO like hosts does too https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

Wannabes like yourselves are nothing to me & easy to dispatch with valid technical data... every time.

APK

P.S.=> Above ALL else though? You came in here talking shit about me & my program, so I CRUSHED YOU ON THAT MUCH + the fact YOU CANNOT SHOW YOU'VE DONE BETTER YOURSELF for giving users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online (but I can & have using what they already NATIVELY have that does more for less)... apk

Re:No, you said I had no other arguments

[amicusNYCL]

You came in here talking shit about me & my program, so I CRUSHED YOU ON THAT MUCH + the fact YOU CANNOT SHOW YOU'VE DONE BETTER YOURSELF for giving users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online (but I can & have using what they already NATIVELY have that does more for less)... apk

In other words, the same tired argument you always try to trot out. Face it man, you're a spammer and if people don't want to use your software then they have alternatives. It's really that simple. No one deserves to be hounded and trolled by you for not wanting to use software that they see advertised in spam. And I didn't talk shit about your program, or you for that matter, I only pointed out that you were a spammer and that people don't need to use software published by spammers. Those are factual statements, not shit talking. I've already covered all of this, you keep going in circles, I have no desire to continue repeating myself. I'm sure you'll just continue to troll my other comments and continue to declare victory in your 1-player game (again, specifically and exactly what I predicted), but I have no desire to continue a discussion that only goes in circles.

My 2 arguments shut you up fast

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I'm on topic here (not spam) - I didn't bring up hosts! I show a SUPERIOR hosts program (mine) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... to BLOW YOU AWAY again with as usual - you know: The likes of which a nobody like YOU can't do better than!

I laughed that vs. that link from me, that all you had was MORE off-topic bs in reply to it, lol... as clearly it's all you could manage against FACTS!

* :)

(See, that's what doing phenomenal work does - what I do which you don't & NEVER will, which is to make the magazines, have security & network pros hosts + recommend my wares + cite my work as good many times, having commercially sold code to my name for decades doing well even now, PLUS being able to dust "ne'er-do-wells" like yourself!)

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-line: My 1st argument that blew you away? Prove you're a coder (you can't lol) -

My 2nd argument (since you say I had no other) was PROOF my ware's SUPERIOR to one you suggest... apk

Re:My 2 arguments shut you up fast

[amicusNYCL]

Congratulations man, it's not even possible to carry on this stupid thread in Slashdot because of the filters they have to stop you.

Here you go, like I said there, I'm done with this idiotic thread.

Been a pleasure dusting YOU & yours

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & a post of mine that left you completely publicly destroyed w/ nothing but an offtopic bs reply https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... since you're a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing fake name online zero... lol!

* Truer words were NEVER SPOKEN on /. than those above!

YOUR PAL TOO on kernelmode speed increases (where hosts operates) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

Lastly Your puny no doubt sockpuppet driven downmods here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... last time I posted this indicating you're trying to 'hide' your OBVIOUS FAIL vs. me?

Ineffectual as you can see (I bypass them & your 'filters' w/ ease, lol) & I just repost!

APK

P.S.=> Funny how I left your ass in the dust on that one vs. an INFERIOR (blatantly on several levels no less) competitor of mine - nothing but more offtopic LOSER bs from you, the hotair windbag BLOWHARD of /. with nothing to his name (a fake one online @ that) of equal or better value than my work here that applies on topic... apk

Been a pleasure dusting YOU & yours

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & 2 posts of mine that left you publicly destroyed w/ nothing but an offtopic bs reply https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... since you're a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing fake name online zero... lol!

* Truer words were NEVER SPOKEN on /. than those above!

YOUR PAL TOO on kernelmode speed increases (where hosts operates) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

Lastly Your puny no doubt sockpuppet driven downmods here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... last time I posted this indicating you're trying to 'hide' your OBVIOUS FAIL vs. me?

Ineffectual as you can see (I bypass them & your 'filters' w/ ease, lol) & I just repost!

I'm on topic, it's NOT spam: Hosts work here!

(I offer the best solution. See 1st link above, lol... left you in the DUST!)

APK

P.S.=> Funny how I left your asses in the dust on those links' points vs. an INFERIOR (blatantly on several levels no less) competitor of mine + technical mistakes - nothing but more offtopic LOSER bs from you both, hotair windbag BLOWHARD wannabes of /. w/ nothing to their FAKE names online of equal or better value than my work here that applies on topic... apk

Quoting Achilles from TROY

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: "Is there no one else?" who destroyed YOU Behrooz Amoozad on hosts kernelmode speed gains https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52554889 & "IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?? AmicusNYCL on hostsman's inferiority to APK Hosts File Engine https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9412709&cid=52553273 - rather easily!

* How & WHY? Well - you're BOTH obviously "ne'er-do-well" WANNABES w/ no real skills or knowledge in the art & science of computing's how & why!

APK

P.S.=> A Killeus, son of Peleus (or APK in more 'modern order' as middlenames are used thus today)... it's NOT easy being "world-class", like me - actually doing work that HELPS users get more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online for LESS yet doing FAR MORE w/ what you NATIVELY already have operating in kernelmode speed w/ less complexity + less security issues... apk

A pleasure making you EAT YOUR WORDS again

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & 2 posts of mine that left you publicly destroyed w/ nothing but an offtopic bs reply https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... since you're a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing fake name online zero... lol!

* Truer words were NEVER SPOKEN on /. than those above!

YOUR PAL TOO on kernelmode speed increases (where hosts operates) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

Lastly Your puny no doubt sockpuppet driven downmods here https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... last time I posted this indicating you're trying to 'hide' your OBVIOUS FAIL vs. me?

Ineffectual as you can see (I bypass them & your 'filters' w/ ease, lol) & I just repost!

I'm on topic, it's NOT spam: Hosts work here!

(I offer the best solution. See 1st link above, lol... left you in the DUST!)

APK

P.S.=> NOT SOME FIRST DUSTING YOU EITHER as I made you EAT YOUR WORDS quoted here too https://slashdot.org/comments.... lol where you say the community doesn't like my work or posts? Bullshit, lol (quotes of them prove OTHERWISE) - Both of you? LOSERS both, hotair windbag BLOWHARD wannabes of /. w/ nothing to their FAKE names online of equal or better value than my work here that applies on topic... apk