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Trump Calls For Russia To Cyber-Invade the United States To Find Clinton's 'Missing' Emails (gawker.com)
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump publicly called on the Russian hackers allegedly responsible for the recent leak of DNC emails to launch another cyber-attack on the United States, this time to hack emails from Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of State, according to reporters who attended the press conference Wednesday. (Alternate source: NYTimes, Quartz, and MotherJones) "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
Clinton came under investigation for her use of a personal email address while serving as secretary of state. After turning over to the FBI all correspondence about government business during her years in the State Department, Clinton revealed at a press conference last year that she had deleted about half of her emails that pertained to personal matters, like her daughter's wedding. Attorney General Loretta Lynch ultimately decided not to pursue criminal charges against Clinton. Update: Here's a video of Trump saying that.
Clinton came under investigation for her use of a personal email address while serving as secretary of state. After turning over to the FBI all correspondence about government business during her years in the State Department, Clinton revealed at a press conference last year that she had deleted about half of her emails that pertained to personal matters, like her daughter's wedding. Attorney General Loretta Lynch ultimately decided not to pursue criminal charges against Clinton. Update: Here's a video of Trump saying that.
It's called "news". It's this thing where someone tells everybody facts about events that are occurring.
You do realize that the Secretary of State (the office of which these emails would pertain to) would have lots of things to hide for national security reasons, right? That's kind of a big reason we have a classification system for government documents.
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Trump makes a lot of absurd comments. Can someone explain to me how you filter them in to "Serious Proposals" and "Jokes"?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Are you talking about Hillary? I agree.
person to ever be a candiate for the US presidency now prominently hits the Slashdot front page. Slashdot - how low can you go ?
We won't know that until we find all her emails.
C'mon Anonymous, C'mon Putin, get us those Trump IRS returns and show the world that TRUMP is all smoke and mirrors
When New York Times published illegally-obtained materials embarrassing a Republican, they got a Pulitzer Prize — because "the people deserve to know" all there is to know about their leaders.
Putin — or whoever really is behind the DNC leaks — certainly deserves a similar reward, does he not?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
break US law by uttering such a statement ?
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
The Trump campaign called for Hillary to be executed for mishandling email. So what should be Trump's punishment for working with the autocratic Russian government for his own personal political gain? What should your punishment be for helping him? I'm just asking questions.
It sounds like the subtext here is that "Hillary claims to have lost them, then maybe the Russians can find them." Seems like more of a poke at Hillary and the administration than a truly-meant invitation to cybercrime.
But when Trump talks, you never know what to expect or what it means, if anything.
That's exactly what it was (I happened to be watching this morning). Hell, more to the point, he was talking about the assumption (per Comey) that state actors had hacked Clinton's server. Given that the server and the emails are long gone, how the hell could they "cyber-invade" (whatever the fuck THAT means) it to get the emails?
This, like 90% of what you read about Trump in the media this cycle, is utter and complete horseshit. The degree to which the media distorts and misrepresents what he says is fucking Orwellian. There's a lot to dislike about Trump but I urge everyone to ACTUALLY WATCH THE ENTIRE PRESS CONFERENCE and try to match what you see up with what the media reports. The press in this country today are fucking disgusting toadies who practice anything *but* journalism (by and large).
Trump uses a very simple strategy - make no comments that CAN NOT be claimed to be an obvious joke. Then get all upset when people take you seriously. Whether he is talking about immigrants, women, Muslims, disabled, or pretty much anything.
The fact that you think this is a valid political strategy reflects poorly on YOU as much as it reflects poorly on
Anyone running for president has NO BUSINESS making jokes about other countries engaging in acts of War against this country. That's the equivalent of making a joke about having a bomb while in line at the TSA. When they take you seriously, you deserve NO sympathy.
But I do agree that Gawker is crap, and poor crap at that. At the very least we need should insist on a higher quality crap being spoon fed to the masses.
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But this is a major party nominee calling for another country to commit cybercrime and violate our national security for his own political gain. That's kind of big news.
You mean, a politician calling for exposure of a criminal's crimes and illegally destroyed evidence, even though said criminal is a rich and well-connected elite. That's kind of big news, indeed.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
He does have a point.
About the ONLY way we will ever recover those emails that Hillary and her team decided to wipe from her server is if some hacker type managed to infiltrate her server while they still existed and archived them. ( Russian, Chinese, American, who cares where they live )
At this point it's obvious that justice is right out of the question considering both the FBI and the Attorney General have decided to ignore the fact that Her Highness handled classified material in a negligent manner. ( Yes it's a crime. No you don't need to have intent. Folks are in jail today for doing the exact same thing. )
So in the absence of any sort of real justice ( which just doesn't happen if your last name is Clinton ) we have to resort to methods that will probably be frowned upon by those who pretend to be Champions of Justice. Seriously, when the rich and powerful OWN the whole system, relying upon our "justice" system is laughable.
Can you imagine the fallout if some hacker actually DID decide to post the entire archive ? How f*cking sad is it that we have to hope for such a thing if we're ever to learn the full truth about what Hillary decided she didn't want part of official records ?
It would make for the greatest election drama in the history of our nation :D
Except that Hillary is the one being given a free pass. She's quick to shift the focus of her own wrongdoings with the email server and DNC hacks to Trump (based on NO evidence) to distract from the DNC and her own evils.
AND - she makes it look as if Trump is in collusion with Russia, when in fact she is the only person who illegally worked with Russia and took bribes. I'll copy and past a comment from an AC poster from another article here:
Story [http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html] about how she received bribes for allowing Russia to buy 20% of the USA uranium production. She clearly stated how she wouldn't take foreign donations to her foundation while at state, would ask for a waiver to do it if it came up, and would disclose if it happened. She took the bribe, didn't ask for a waiver, didn't disclose it, and failed to report it on her taxes and had to amend them years later after she was caught. She showed "Intent" in hiding the donations because they were bribes. This isn't even questionable campaign donations, this is direct bribes to her for approving something the State Department wouldn't normally even consider.
I'm not sure why people bring up her email scandal. As bad as it was, it wasn't taking bribes from Russia for State Department favours while she was in charge.
How is she even possibly considered for the DNC nomination after this came out?
You mean Hillary? Because Trump, despite all the mud being thrown this way, has done very little concrete evil in comparison.
Don't disagree with you, but there's still a stink in the air:
* http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
Politifacts looked at the video claim. It isn't clear whether Clinton mentioned the videos to any of the families; some say she did, while Clinton and others say she didn't. It was an exremely stressful and emotional time, and it's no surprise that there are conflicting memories.
You don't seem to realize that lots of protests were going on elsewhere, and it wasn't clear at first that the Benghazi attack was a deliberate attack that coincided with the unrest. It was a confusing mess, and sending what security forces were available to Benghazi is obvious only in hindsight. It was entirely possible that, fifteen minutes after they were committed, they'd be wanted far more somewhere else.
The way to prevent that would have been for the Republican Congress to give Clinton the money she asked for for embassy security. Clearly, by your reasoning, Republicans should not be trusted in a kindergarten student council.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Drumpf has run most of his campaign by going from one conspiracy to another.
You're late to this party, but the Clinton campaign started the 'Russia leaked the emails' meme. Trump is responding to that meme here (I haven't verified that - the news conference was too long and I don't care enough to watch the whole thing). Adding his own whatever to it.
Do not be deceived: at the national level, it's cut-throat, and both campaigns are willing to lie and cheat if it helps them win. We see that in the emails where the Clinton campaign tried to use Sander's race against him.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Since Trump has been officially nominated, popular support for him on Slashdot has skyrocketed, even among individuals who I previously considered to be relatively sane and somewhat intelligent. Seems that all the conservatives have said to themselves "Well Trump is our party's candidate now, like or not, so I guess we better throw all our support behind this dangerous manchild."
I'm sure most of them know that he's by far the more dangerous choice compared to Republican Satan and the responsible, adult thing to do would be to write in a candidate/vote 3rd party and hope for the best or settle for their protest vote at worst, but they advocate for Trump, for the glory of The Party.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
...These emails were deleted from a server that the Democrats were saying was never, ever, in a million years hacked.
But now they are saying that the Russians did hack it, at the behest of Trump, and they did it a year before Trump mentioned it?
I'm sooo confused!
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Trump is just trying to call attention back to Clinton's crimes with respect to federal record keeping laws.
Well he did his usual great job on that. He has changed the topic of conversation from the emails to "trump wants russia to hack us". A few more fun facts now that trump himself has "pivoted"
- trumps businesses are heavily dependent on russian investment (source: trump jr)
- trumps campaign manager's last job was lobbyist for the Ukrainian dictator whos ouster set up the Crimea debacle
- the only change to the republican party platform that the trump campain made was erasing the hardline stance against russia
As for the emails themselves (DNC emails that is), they probably didn't matter much since Hillary won the primary popular vote by 25% and the DNC chair was forced out on the eve of the convention! What more can you ask for? Maybe $100M worth of congressional hearings that all end with no new findings?
Yes, the 87 does include some attackers (duh), but if you actually read what I wrote, you would "fucking realize" that many more Americans died during those attacks than in Benghazi.
Were there nine investigations into them? No, zero. How many front page stories even mentioned them? Zero. Generally Americans don't give a shit about human life unless the victims are American citizens, so there's no point even mentioning total casualties. But aside from 9/11 (a day when GWB was "keeping us safe") it seems that even American lives are only valued when the GOP is not in power.