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You Can't Turn Off Cortana In the Windows 10 Anniversary Update (pcworld.com)

Microsoft will release Windows 10 Anniversary Update next week. Earlier this week we listed some of its best features. PCWorld is now reporting about a major change that may annoy some users: once you've installed the update, Cortana can no longer be disabled. From the article: Cortana, the personal digital assistant that replaced Windows 10's search function and taps into Bing's servers to answer your queries with contextual awareness, no longer has an off switch. The impact on you at home: Similar to how Microsoft blocked Google compatibility with Cortana, the company is now cutting off the plain vanilla search option. That actually makes a certain of amount of sense. Unless you turned off all the various cloud-connected bits of Windows 10, there's not a ton of difference between Cortana and the operating system's basic search capabilities.

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  1. O RLY? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Challenge accepted!

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    1. Re: O RLY? by thaylin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      hmm job prospects for Linux admins are pretty darn good right now.

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      When you cant win, ad hominem.
    2. Re:O RLY? by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yep. You can disable it in the group policy editor if you have pro, or in the registry editor if you don't.

    3. Re: O RLY? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Informative

      As admin, run this command in one line:

      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" /t REG_DWORD /v "AllowCortana" /d 0 /f

      There, no more cortana.

    4. Re: O RLY? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As admin, run this command in one line:

      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" /t REG_DWORD /v "AllowCortana" /d 0 /f

      There, no more cortana.

      Did you bring up Task Manager and verify that Cortana isn't running? Hiding Cortana is not the same as disabling it.

    5. Re:O RLY? by npslider · · Score: 4, Funny

      Meanwhile, in Android, all you have to do to disable all Google Services, root the phone, install Windows, apply the reg fix, and turn off all updates!

  2. It didn't have an off switch before by LichtSpektren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In some ways this is more honest, it's been demonstrated that the OS will talk to 107 domains whether or not some switches are toggled in the Control Panel to give the illusion of privacy.

    I wish Microsoft would've been more up front about this last year, and not two days before the "free" "upgrade" is scheduled to be concluded.

    1. Re:It didn't have an off switch before by LichtSpektren · · Score: 5, Informative

      In some ways this is more honest, it's been demonstrated that the OS will talk to 107 domains whether or not some switches are toggled in the Control Panel to give the illusion of privacy.

      Any list of those so I can set them to 127.0.0.1 in my Hosts file?

      Here you go: https://github.com/WindowsLies...

      However it won't work because Windows bypasses its own hosts file for its own purposes. You'll have to block it from your router or other external firewall.

    2. Re:It didn't have an off switch before by Holi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Host file won't help. Telemetry bypasses internal firewall and the hosts file. You need standalone firewall to block it.

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      Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
    3. Re:It didn't have an off switch before by TroII · · Score: 5, Informative

      Any list of those so I can set them to 127.0.0.1 in my Hosts file?

      That won't help you any, the IP addresses are hard-coded into the OS via dnsapi.dll, which Windows 10 will consult prior to the rest of the resolver stack (hosts, WINS, name servers, etc). You're going to need another machine between you and your internet connection, one with a proper implementation like iptables/ipfw/nftables/etc to drop traffic destined for those IPs.

      Of course, the IPs of the telemetry servers are subject to change at Microsoft's whim, so you're going to end up stuck playing whack-a-mole. Me, I'm just not going to install Windows 10.

    4. Re:It didn't have an off switch before by kruug · · Score: 3

      it's been demonstrated that the OS will talk to 107 domains whether or not some switches are toggled in the Control Panel to give the illusion of privacy.

      That's also been proven false, assuming you're talking about the CheesusCrust post on Voat.

    5. Re:It didn't have an off switch before by TroII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wouldn't blocking the ASNs associated with Microsoft be any more efficient?

      You'd be blocking every legitimate, non-Microsoft-affiliated service hosted on Azure, and there's no guarantee they're only using their own IP space for this to start with. In the end, I think blocking surveillance and spying that's baked into the operating system is a losing game.

      With Windows 10, the only winning move is not to play.

  3. Of course not by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "You Can't Turn Off Cortana In the Windows 10 Anniversary Update"

    Of course not- that might interfere with their advertising schemes and the ability to monitor whatever they like in order to better monetize your entire existence.

    Welcome to the Brave New World of surveillance, brought to you by the same forward-thinking folks that brought you Windows ME, the Zune, and PlaysForSure.

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    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  4. How to disable Cortana by bagofbeans · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:How to disable Cortana by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Informative

      A method to do it with a registry modification is also in that article. It's not clear if it works for the Home edition though.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    2. Re:How to disable Cortana by kulaga · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also check out Spybot Anti-Beacon. It disables all (hopefully at least most) of the services Microsoft uses for data collection... I'm sure it can all be done manually, but this was a simple solution for me. Not a shill, but I keep posting this after learning about from a previous Slashdot comment months ago.

  5. Linux Gaming Support by iCEBaLM · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's it. That's all that we need. If we could somehow figure out a way to get a good gaming experience on Linux then the fabled Year of the Linux Desktop(tm) would manifest in reality.

    Windows would be relegated to the office (and even that can change since more and more apps are web based) and we would finally be free.

  6. Re:Can't disable? Then I will break it by LichtSpektren · · Score: 5, Informative

    or install Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB, which got none of this nonsense.

    Easier said than done, Microsoft doesn't sell Windows Enterprise off the shelf. You have to negotiate a licensing plan with them.

  7. As a UNIX head and former MS-hater . . . by mmell · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Y'know, Microsoft has never made any bones about their OS being a proprietary system. Whether you agree with their choices or not, you're bound by them when you use their OS. Problem is, there is a lot of appeal to their OS - nearly universal familiarity among the user base (which is large), nearly ubiquitous applications (especially in the office/business space), pre-installation (something like $50.00 a shot, as opposed to ~$175, so I guess that hurts less) . . .

    You want an OS that works your way? Tell ya what - get a bunch of your fellow technically-oriented geek friends together and make your own! (Actually, I'm sure this has been done. I think such systems are called "GNU Linux"?) Otherwise, as long as they don't outright break what they sold you, you can deal with MS's heavy-handed management of your systems. Frankly, with all the moaning about MS security and unpatched MS OS's in the wild, how did everyone expect them to respond? They're still the de facto business OS of choice and their primary customer is extremely security conscious. MS is listening to the bucks, not the users. Since their software is proprietary, that is as it should be. Unless you actively find a way to prevent it, Microsoft pretty much insists on their right to make every licensed MS OS instance reasonably uniform. That way, both security and reliability can theoretically be maximized for the entire user base.

    In short - deal with it or run something else. Just don't expect Microsoft to waste any time or money trying to do things your way unless you're big business with big bucks.

  8. Re:Not running Windows 10 seems like a total fix by macxcool · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree. We bought a little Acer E3-111 for my wife with Windows 8.1 awhile back. It worked just fine. We had some problems with the touchpad recently and I figured, why not upgrade to Windows 10. We've both regretted that decision. It run slowly, and every few days there's new reasons on Slashdot and elsewhere not to run Windows 10. A few days ago I booted Linux Mint 18, Mate edition from a USB stick. Firefox (my wife's preffered browser) started so quickly we were startled and everything was very smooth. I looked at the hits on my firewall/proxy server from her IP and they were down to almost nothing. I'll be upgrading her to Linux this weekend.

  9. How to disable BITS by WaffleMonster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not exactly on topic but without BITS ...windows won't update.

    As you already know if you simply disable BITS Windows will automatically re-enable it and turn it on again whenever it feels like it.

    The solution is to create a user account, disable the user account and then configure BITS service to run as that disabled user. This will cause it to permanently fail. Microsoft isn't yet checking for this.

    I would comment further but anything I say would be obvious and repetitive like arguing with Natas over the finer points of running Microsoft.

  10. Re:I Say Bullshit! by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In this brave new world, hiding an app is equivalent to turning it off.

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    "Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
  11. Re:I Say Bullshit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't like Cortana, you can make it go away and never use it.

    From TFA: Microsoft told PCWorld. "If you like, you can also easily hide Cortana and the search box in the taskbar altogether."

    Cortana is simply a browser searchbar that uses Bing, re-located to the taskbar, and can talk.

    1. change default browser from Edge to anything else... except IE. Be sure your new Browser does not use Bing as its search engine.
    2. Right-click on the Taskbar, choose to Hide Cortana.
    3. (optional) Install ClassicShell, Start8, or equivalent to provide a convenient basic search functionality.
    4. (optional) Still paranoid? Try Spybot Anti-Beacon.
    5. Proceed as before. Run Steam or something.

    Unfortunately, you don't understand the difference between disabling Cortana and merely hiding it so you can't see it. And Microsoft is counting on that level of ignorance.

    After following those steps you listed, bring up Task manager and you will see that Cortana is still running. Kill the process and it immediately comes back. I did finally manage to successfully kill Cortana, but it's tricky and I experienced system instability afterward. So I just to Microsoft to fuck off and went back Windows 7.

  12. Re:Looking for recommendations for by gweihir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ask Cortana. She probably knows all the best brands and how to apply them.

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    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  13. Re:Can't disable? Then I will break it by rudy_wayne · · Score: 3, Informative

    or install Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB, which got none of this nonsense.

    Easier said than done, Microsoft doesn't sell Windows Enterprise off the shelf. You have to negotiate a licensing plan with them.

    You can't just buy a copy of the Enterprise version of Windows. Running (legally) the Enterprise version of Windows 10 requires you to purchase at least 250 Windows licenses (public sector customers) or 500 licenses (commercial customers).

  14. Why does Microsoft hate its users? by JohnFen · · Score: 3

    Every time I think Microsoft has been as shitty about Windows 10 as possible, it finds a way to be even shittier.