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ALS Ice Bucket Challenge Funding Leads To New Genetic Findings (yahoo.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Researchers are crediting the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, a fundraiser for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis that went viral in 2014, for funding a new study that has possibly identified a common gene that contributes to the nervous system disease. Yahoo reports via Good Morning America: "In a study published in The Nature Genetics Journal, researchers from various institutions, including the University of Massachusetts Medical School and the University Medical Center Utrecht, identified the gene NEK1 as a common gene that could have an impact on who develops the disease. Variants of the gene appear to lead to increased risk of developing ALS, according to preliminary findings. Researchers in 11 countries studied 1,000 families in which a family member developed ALS and conducted a genome-wide search for any signs that a gene could be leading to increased ALS risk. After identifying the NEK1 gene, they also analyzed 13,000 individuals who had developed ALS despite no family history and found they had variants in that same gene, again linking that gene with increased ALS risk. Starting in the summer of 2014, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge led to 17 million videos made and $220 million raised, according to the ALS Association -- $115 million of which went to the association."

33 comments

  1. Marketing Agency Pats itself on the back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The marketing agency that launched the campaign was proud to report that their campaign met all performance metrics ...oh the money actually helped someone? Great!

    1. Re:Marketing Agency Pats itself on the back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I never knew the ice bucket challenge had a goal. To me it was just an annoying thing that kept getting directed toward me. I've never seen one of the videos. I assumed it was something like the cinnamon challenge.

      Glad is was fruitful.

    2. Re:Marketing Agency Pats itself on the back by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Prostate jokes are not funny.

      Now get offa my lawn!

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    3. Re:Marketing Agency Pats itself on the back by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

      Prostate jokes are not funny. Now get offa my lawn!

      Yeah, that really pissed me off, too. Granted, at my age, getting pissed off takes a full minute just to get started. But I make up for it in frequency.

    4. Re:Marketing Agency Pats itself on the back by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That's what would locally be called a "dribble joke", one that comes slowly, bit by bit. But I think I'll have to let it sink in.

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  2. Now for the "Mice bucket challenge" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to fight Zika

  3. Re:Donations to big pharma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No worries. You can just suck a couple extra dicks behind the Starbucks every night to afford it.

  4. Post below if you did it... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Good cause & a fun way to raise money. Both my wife & I did. She sprang up on her feet a split second after I started to dump the ice water on her. One of the funniest things I've seen! :-D

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  5. Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ raised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $220 million raised.

    $115 million went to the association.

    Did the fundraisers take the other half of the money?

  6. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by muphin · · Score: 1

    from my understanding fundraisers can legally take up to 60% of all donations to cover costs and expenses, so make sense theyonyl get about 1/2

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  7. - Michael Scott by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yahoo reports via Good Morning America: "In a study published in The Nature Genetics Journal,

    How about a quote directly from those involved in the study. I've seen Yahoo and I've watched GMA and who knows how many time telephone got screwed up in that news path.

  8. so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who got new houses and cars then? 50% of money evaporated like water?

  9. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by usa4ever · · Score: 5, Informative

    $220M is the global total amount. There are multiple ALS organizations in different countries. $115M is only the amount the US ALS organization received, and it is all accounted for here http://www.alsa.org/fight-als/... , fundraising and transaction processing costs were only 4%. It does appear this charity is one of the good ones that doesn't spend all its money on itself.

  10. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

    I spent about fifteen years of my career in the non-profit sector, so I have some perspective on this.

    Raising money in a non-profit is just like selling stuff is for a for-profit. Generating gross revenue is relatively easy -- if you spend a lot of money you can rake in a lot of dough. What's a bitch to generate is net profit. In the non-profit sector we don't use the term "profitability" very much, so the metric that's often used to describe financial is "cost to raise a dollar." For typical fundraising activities cost-to-raise-a-dollar runs from 0.25 to 1.5 dollars/dollar.

    Take junk mail. The cost to raise a dollar for a well-run direct mail campaign is in the range of $1.25 to $1.50, so if I want to raise $115,000 to spend on other things I have to scale my direct mail campaign to bring inover $258,000 gross. As you can see I chose a net target that was exactly 1/1000 the size of the ALS bucket challenge net, so you can compare the efficiency of the processes readily. The cost to raise a dollar for the ALS bucket challenge is actually better than a well-run direct mail campaign -- $0.91.

    And it should be more efficient than direct mail, because direct mail is about the least efficient method there is. The marginal costs are huge because you pay for the names and addresses as well as printing and mailing of each piece, and most of those pieces will end up in the landfill unopened. So if direct mail is so inefficient, why use it? Because the financial inefficiency doesn't matter to the organization doing the fundraising. The end result of my hypothetical direct mail campaign is that my organization has $115,000 it didn't have before. That probably pays for one and half full time staff positions (at the low do-gooder wages we pay) for a year.

    So the ALS challenge was in the financial efficiency range of methods normally used by non-profits, albeit a little towards the inefficient end. That doesn't really tell us if the campaign was responsibly run or not; to know that you'd have to look at all the expenses and compare those to costs in other viral Internet fundraising campaigns. But the bottom line is that the ALS association ended up with $115 million it didn't have before.

    Can you think of a way of raising $115 million in a few months? I thought not. So presuming the guys who ran the campaign didn't spend the money on hookers and blow, I wouldn't be unduly concerned by a cost-to-raise-a-dollar of $0.91 if I was on the board.

    Should donors care that the ALS challenge was a little high on the cost-to-raise-a-dollar metric? Well, I look at it this way. People did it because it was fun and for a good cause, and two years later we can point to concrete and significant scientific results from the money raised. That's not only pretty good, it's pretty damned awesome.

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  11. So is this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    going to help Stephen Hawking get better?

    Nope

    and its certaunly not going to help Lou Gehrig

    1. Re: So is this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It helps Hawkings as much as inventing battery helped with getting electric street lights.

  12. Post below if you tried to figure out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why were they only raising money for ALS that went viral in 2014? I mean, the fact that it's gone viral is huge news, and terrifying. But it would be good to know if the cures can be used on older non-viral cases, and if not, why?>

  13. Funds generated on avereage for a single ice event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So 17 million videos of a person being dumped upon with ice water generated 220 million dollars for an average funds raised of $12.94 per dump. But wait! The fund raising organization kept almost half of the take so ALS research got about $6.76 per ice water dump. And if the video makers bought the ice instead of making it themselves the economics looks even worst.

    My comment above is not meant to conflict with the prior comment posted by by hey. His comment is informative, well written and makes a valid point.

  14. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

    People did it because it was fun and for a good cause, and two years later we can point to concrete and significant scientific results from the money raised. That's not only pretty good, it's pretty damned awesome.

    Downright spectacular, I would think. How many thousands of cancer fundraisers have their been, with precious little to show for it?

    Maybe they should start having anti-cancer fundraisers...

  15. Kind of... by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 3

    Project MinE started a year before the Ice Bucket Challenge and the money provided to the project that was the direct result of the challenge is a fraction of what it's raised outside of the project.

    To suggest the Ice Bucket Challenge funding was directly responsible for the results completely ignores how the funding of these kind of scientific endeavours really works.

    1. Re:Kind of... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It also ignores the fact that the Ice Bucket Challenge missed the point and created blind slacktivism more than anything else.

      Remember it was donate OR get ice bucketed. All the youtube idiots did it wrong. One of the few who did it right was Patrick Stewart on his ice bucket challenge video.

    2. Re:Kind of... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      A misplaced quote ate the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    3. Re:Kind of... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      A lot of things are observable from the Ice Bucket Challenge.

      First: ALS affects a tiny, tiny fraction of the population. 36,000 people worldwide. Diverting resources to ALS diverts those resources away from efforts which affect hundreds of millions of people. That means you get to pat your back for pulling bread from 10,000 starving childrens's mouths to feed ONE starving child somewhere a few miles away instead. (Okay, that's not the right metaphor; it's more like you diverted the truck to another state before it even got there, which would necessarily have to bring *all* the food on that particular truck with it; if you were going to take out of people's hands, you wouldn't really take so much. The image is more powerful, though.)

      Second, people are prone to pat themselves on the back for finding not-definitely-useful information. They found a gene link. That's a link, but not necessarily causative. This could mean basically nothing, or it could be a tiny step in a long, long chain of things. Economically, this kind of research becomes less-expensive and faster with technology: tiny steps like this every decade give way to steps like this every few months; with the overtaking pace, you can actually just wait for technology to catch up, then *start* your research, and actually arrive at the end point at the same time as a research base started 40 years prior. If this turns out nothing for the next several years, and then an explosion of genetic research techniques appears, then this particular research was an enormous waste of time and resources.

      Third, as you observed, everyone wants to imagine they helped. They wave their hands around, put a dollar in a bin with 18 billion dollars, and claim they were part of something when their entire effort was a skipped trip to the vending machine.

    4. Re:Kind of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A lot of things are observable from your post.

      First: You assume that every dollar donated to ALS was therefore not donated to some other charity. This is quite a silly assumption.

      Second: You don't seem to understand how progress is made. You see, someone finds some thing that not earth shattering in and of itself, and adds that to other small things discovered by other people. This adds up to big things, like the computer you are using (and almost every other thing in your life). If we ignored all the small advances and waited for the one big advance (whatever that would be), we would still be cavemen.

      Third: Everyone who contributed DID help. Look up the word "contribute" to understand that. This is similar to the above: you seem to think that the only help worth performing is the final goal: the only one who can help ALS is the person who discovered a cure or something. Yet again, you seem to have no idea how the real world works.

      So, in conclusion, your post makes you look like a selfish asshole who just wants to complain about other people. I don't imagine you've: 1) personally donated enough money to cured world hunger, 2) Invented some amazing new technology using nothing that was ever invented before you, or 3) every helped someone that had never been helped by anyone else.

      Why so bitter, bro?

    5. Re:Kind of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't speak for others but I did both. There was really no point in not donating IMO.

  16. Re: Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait a minute... Wouldn't they be better off not spending the $1.25 - $1.50 it takes to raise a net $1? They can spend that directly on the staff positions and what-not. Am I missing something here?

  17. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    "Should donors care that the ALS challenge was a little high on the cost-to-raise-a-dollar metric? Well, I look at it this way. People did it because it was fun and for a good cause, and two years later we can point to concrete and significant scientific results from the money raised. That's not only pretty good, it's pretty damned awesome."

    Don't let the otherwise informative post persuade you, donors should always care about the overhead costs of the charities they support. Just because an activity is "fun" does not excuse it from excesses and wastefulness. If people truly want to make a difference they should expect efforts be applied to progress, not enrichment.

  18. Re: Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rai by tsqr · · Score: 1

    Wait a minute... Wouldn't they be better off not spending the $1.25 - $1.50 it takes to raise a net $1? They can spend that directly on the staff positions and what-not. Am I missing something here?

    Yes, you are missing pretty much everything. If $1.50 goes out and $2.50 comes in, you net $1.00. If you just spend the $1.50, you net -$1.50.

  19. Re:Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ rais by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    True, donors should be concerned -- but they need to exercise that concern in the context of comparable activities.

    It's hard to raise a hundred million bucks. Hard == expensive == less efficient. So efficiency is a concern, but it shouldn't necessarily be a paramount one, because if it is that pretty much limits you to problems that can be solved by small quantities of money. Buying a cup of coffee for a homeless person is perfectly efficient, unlike building affordable housing which necessarily involves waste.

    I take no position on the efficiency of this particular campaign, because I know of no other comparable one. The only way to know whether it was irresponsibly run would be to audit it.

  20. Re: Wait... Who got that other half of the $$$ ra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But you spent that $1.50 on sending junk mail to a bunch of people so you could spend $1.00 on salaries. Why wouldn't you directly spend the $1.50 on salaries?