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Hyperloop One Announces Opening of Its First Manufacturing Plant (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Hyperloop One is today announcing the opening of its first manufacturing plant. Called Hyperloop One Metalworks, the 105,000 square-foot building in North Las Vegas will be the new professional home of many of the company's 170 employees, including engineers, machinists and welders. These folks will build and test a number of components for the DevLoop, a full-system prototype of the Hyperloop, set for testing in 2017. The project, if successful, promises a half-hour travel time between Stockholm and Helsinki, which is the equivalent of about 300 miles. The company plans to have a working prototype of the Hyperloop by 2017 thanks to this new plant."Hyperloop One Metalworks is the first Hyperloop manufacturing plant in the world," said co-founder and President of Engineering Josh Giegel in a press release. "The ability to have a world-class machine shop in-house gives us an advantage to build rapidly and develop the Hyperloop in real-time."
300 miles = 482 kilometers.
Incidentally, 482 km in 30 minutes is about 960 km/h. Not bad!
....just like the Segway did.
I just watched this video debunking the feasibility of the Hyperloop.
We actually have an honest-to-god manufacturing facility built in the United States and it's within spitting distance of the Gigafactory. Nevada's kickbacks must be premium.
Might as well open a manufacturing plant for perpetual motion machines. Its so ludicrous on so many levels with anyone with a basic knowledge of science.
The whole "Hyperloop" thing is a ridiculous joke that will never, EVER be built.
Such statements are usually wrong. It will be build some time in the future, on some planet where the environment is so bad that air travel is an even worse option. It's basically another example a solution looking for a problem.
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Hyperloop One does hyperbole in their press release.
They got a big building to work in. Good for them. It might have been a production facility for a previous occupant but it is not a Hyperloop One production facility. Instead it is an engineering design shop. You need a product and production to turn a building into a production facility.
Exaggeration in technology development press releases turns me off entirely. I understand the PR benefit in doing this, but if "engineering development shop" becomes "first production facility" what other stuff is being similarly inflated? Schedule? funding? market analysis?
If you have early stage cool stuff that shows promise with a good potential market, and a pretty good chance for adequate funding you have no need to exaggerate.
So why the attempt at deception?
It is the cost thing the media parrots that drives me nuts. I just saw on the local news there will be a San Antonio/Austin loop built in the next 20 years or so that will cost 10 bucks to ride, runs every 10 minutes, 24 hours a day. Heck a bus ride across town almost costs that much and those are not running 24 hours a day or every 10 minutes in most cases. Maybe I'll announce my new magic anti-grav sphere tech that runs on air and can transport you anywhere in 30 minutes or less.
Three different people posting the same Youtube link to the same babbling jackass.
You people do realize that Elon Musk had actual rocket scientists working on the original Hyperloop paper, right? Whether or not Mr. Musk's own physics degree is worth anything or not, the degrees of his employees definitely are, or SpaceX rockets wouldn't fly. They did modeling of vacuum evacuation of the tube. They did modeling of stresses on a basic pylon, using the same software they use to model the stresses on SpaceX rockets. They did modeling of the capsule. The math and engineering have been vetted pretty seriously. At least, the original version.
Whether or not Hyperloop One's version has enjoyed the same degree of scrutiny by people who have been demonstrated not to drop a decimal place I don't know, but regardless, you can stop linking to the babbling fool.
The fundamental flaws of Hyperloop are political, not physical. The link proposed between SF and LA will never be built because it would have followed the highway, which would deny the Right People the opportunity to get rich off of real estate speculation, the way the Not Very High Speed Rail project is allowing.
Where's the Egon oh-so Musky guy?
All that shows up here are cows and apps.
Notice Elon Musk said "California" High speed rail, and not a generic high speed rail line. China could build a high speed rail line cheaper than California can. The US sucks at building infrastructure on a budget.
I don't know who was foolish enough to invest money in hyperloop. I just hope they don't con the US govt into spending money on it. Germany and Japan spent over 2 decades developing their maglevs.
in America on a fibre roll out that never happened and nobody has the balls to ask for our money back. So you're forgive me if I'm not in even the tinciest bit surprised shit like this can fly. The loans will be private with public guarantees and we'll all eat it like we eat sports Colosseums.
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Like Mars for example? With colonising Mars being Musks end game this kinda makes sense.
Such statements aren't usually wrong. Some superfast mass mover will exist on the ground. MagLev, or Hyperloop, or what-have you. Keep in mind, when poeple said, e.g. Da Vinci's ornithopter thing would never fly, they really meant heavier than air flight. And ewhile we got heavier than air flight, and his ornithopter can now be buitl, we primarily use planes or helicopters. The few ornithopters are built as toys. Likewise, while we may eventually be able to build a hyperloop, it seems likely that mag leve will beat it as super-fast people mover.
The statemnts that are normally wrong are theings where no competitor obviates the need before the technology matures.
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The fundamental idea was to use air cushion for vactrain, which is well known by now. This is just another instance of that. Real news would be if a new principle were to be announced... but hey, maybe will be one of the first instances of this idea :)
Sorry, you believe you have superior knowledge.
But actually it is inferior. For you and the rest of the americans the hyperloop is a new concept.
Actually it is minimum 45 years old and especially in Switzerland a research project since 40 years.
The only costly thing is drilling the tunnels. And in the case of the USA, I would not wonder if they just put a pipe overground, which would drasticly reduce the costs, or burry it by digging a trench.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
All the problems of deep space travel? I wasn't aware the hyperloop would also contain a particle accelerator that generated powerful cosmic rays, that you'd have to stock it with months of food, that passengers would suffer bone density loss due to lack of gravity, or that highly explosive chemicals would be loaded on board. I'm glad I know that now so that I can stay away from it.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
There was prison labor involved in the battery factory and other things Musk has done in Nevada. That makes it illegal to use derived products in most of the EU with Sweden and Finland at the top of the list of countries that will not tolerate any prison labor.
You have it backwards. It is because it runs every ten minutes that it costs 10 bucks to ride. It's spreading the cost of the system over many uses. A bus ride across town doesn't have the number of users or duty cycle that would allow the cost to go down.
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If I recall corectly, Hyperloop one is building a Maglev train in a vacuum tube, not a "hovercraft" in a low pressure tube. This company should really be called Maglev one, since it is not in fact constructing hyperloops. Nothing new here. I would be curious to hear about the technology behind Hyperloop Transportation Technologies, it seems to me that it's regular hyperloop tech.
See, we stick you in this train car kinda thing, then we stick it into a pipe, like a pipeline "pig". Then we fire the car at 600 MPH through the pipe for a few hundred miles and you pop out at the other end. Totally awesome! I know!
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You are assuming that people at 4am will want to travel between austin/sa every 10 minutes. Buses run when they run because demand warrants it, and they run empty a good bit of the time even with that. To give you some idea of how much $ we are talking about, they say it is going to cost 20B, so assume for crazy sake they are correct and not off by the typical 5X. If capital costs 1 dollar per ride, that is 5.5million trips/day for 10 years. Austin/SA only has about 3 million people. So unless everyone (man, woman and child) is taking 2 trips/day for 10 years will they recover capital, assuming zero interest. This is a nerd site, does no one on this site even do a rough back of the envelope calculation for stuff like this.
Well their location is one of the worst possible places in America to live. I wouldn't work there just because of where they are.
Is this not the same Hyperloop One that is having massive political infighting right now, with lawsuits being slung back and forth and serious management shenanigans?
I hope the employees of this factory are getting paid very well for the employment uncertainty they're facing.
The Hyperloop plans I've seen call for the tube to be elevated on pylons over the ground. It's far cheaper that way, plus you don't have to worry much about seismic problems (you can engineer the pylons and tubes to have a certain amount of flexibility, much like skyscrapers do).
Actually it is minimum 45 years old and especially in Switzerland a research project since 40 years.
And as usual, you are full of shit.
Show us ONE functioning hyperloop station or route like the one Elon Musk is proposing, just ONE.
Show us ONE high-vacuum tunnel several meters in diameter that is more than 10 feet long.
Show us ONE self-contained, vacuum-capable passenger container that has ever been used.
You can't, because they don't exist and never will.
Mark my words: The hyperloop, as proposed, is bullshit and will never, ever be built. I'll bet anyone here $10,000 that nothing comes of it and that not a single functioning vehicle or route will exist even after 10 years. Money to be held in escrow by an agreed-upon 3rd party. Put up or shut up.
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You have it backwards. It is because it runs every ten minutes that it costs 10 bucks to ride.
Because running something more often costs less? Then why don't operation and maintenance costs go down when you use a car 24/7?
Your thinking is faulty. See if you can guess where.
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It's spreading the cost of the system over many uses. A bus ride across town doesn't have the number of users or duty cycle that would allow the cost to go down.
Yeah, and guess what? Neither does the demand for trips from L.A. to San Francisco have the demand or duty cycle to make it cost effective to that level. There's even less demand for longer distance routes than for shorter distance routes. Seriously, give me a fucking break, have any of you people actually thought about this shit?
Shame on all of you who're accepting this pie-in-the-sky bullshit without the slightest bit of rational examination. For a bunch of geeks/nerds/techies, you all sure are a bunch of gullible fuckers willing to suspend your disbelief at the drop of a hat. Do ANY of you even own a calculator? Have ANY of you run some simple calculations or thought critically about ANY of the claims that are being made?
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You are assuming that people at 4am will want to travel between austin/sa every 10 minutes. Buses run when they run because demand warrants it, and they run empty a good bit of the time even with that. To give you some idea of how much $ we are talking about, they say it is going to cost 20B, so assume for crazy sake they are correct and not off by the typical 5X. If capital costs 1 dollar per ride, that is 5.5million trips/day for 10 years. Austin/SA only has about 3 million people. So unless everyone (man, woman and child) is taking 2 trips/day for 10 years will they recover capital, assuming zero interest. This is a nerd site, does no one on this site even do a rough back of the envelope calculation for stuff like this.
Thank you for bringing a bit of sanity into the discussion. Most of the people cheering this nonsense on are dull-witted suckers who are hard of thinking.
I'll bet anyone here $10,000 that nothing comes of it and that not a single functioning vehicle or route will exist, even after 10 years of "development".
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I like how the distance between 2 cities is "the equivalent of about 300 miles".
Why isn't is 'about 300 miles?
I don't know from unobtainium, but doesn't it bother anyone else that the Hyperloop is not really a loop?
A loop is more like a circle than a line, and if you take it in one direction you'll eventually arrive back at your starting point. Everything I've ever heard about the hyperloop just has it running directly from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
I mean, I guess you could ride it from Los Angeles to San Francisco and then back, but there's a bunch of roads that do the same thing, and we don't call them loops. They're just, I don't know, duplexed. Like regular roads are.
Have they figured out how:
(1) To make a tube that sags just a few millimeters between pylons? Hint: A 1-inch thick steel tube sags several inches between those pylons.
(2) How to get people into space suits? Even the Air Force doesn't let pilots, even in wartime, sit in a plane at 70,000 feet without a space suit.
(3) How to get a common-carrier license, for a vehicle and tube without emergency exits?
Those are all pretty hard show-stoppers, and they seem to be working on everything but.
Show us ONE high-vacuum tunnel several meters in diameter that is more than 10 feet long.
Please, stop mixing up units of measurement. Please try wolframalpha and get a clue what 10 feet is in relation to several meters (diameter).
Show us ONE self-contained, vacuum-capable passenger container that has ever been used.
That is off topic. Obviously no one has built that yet.
The hyperloop, as proposed, is bullshit No it is not. It is just a peace of so far imaginary transportation. The technology for it is readily available since decades.
and will never, ever be built. Probably.
Put up or shut up.
Does that mean I have to put $10,000 also into escrow to be in the bet?
Then: no. I rather put $10,000 into Elons company and either lose it or become a billionaire. Why would I want to win your meager $10,000 when I know that if they build it they will be successful, and that the question if they build it is out of my control?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Please, stop mixing up units of measurement. Please try wolframalpha and get a clue what 10 feet is in relation to several meters (diameter).
In other words, you can't, can you? That's because you're lying, there is no working hyperloop, nor anything like it. And there never will be a working hyoerloop outside of some experimental bullshit designed to suck investors into the scam.
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That is off topic. Obviously no one has built that yet.
Exactly, and that's why you're full of shit, like always. No one has built one because it's impractical beyond all measure from nearly every angle.
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The technology for it is readily available since decades.
No, it hasn't. If it has, SHOW US ONE, just one example of this in the real world. As usual, you can't.
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Then: no. I rather put $10,000 into Elons company and either lose it or become a billionaire.
You'd lose it, but you couldn't raise $10,000 if your life depended on it.
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That's because you're lying, there is no working hyperloop
I never said there is one, idiot. The liar is obviously you.
No, it hasn't. If it has, SHOW US ONE, just one example of this in the real world. As usual, you can't.
Three universities in Germany have a small scale version, how retarded are you?
In other words, you can't, can you?
This was your comment to mixing feet with meters? Well, 10 feet are 3 meters, several meters is certainly below 10 meters. So you want to see a 3 meters long tube with 5 to 10 meters diameter? And you think that is impossible to build? So a tube that has a bigger diameter than the length you demand: makes any sense?
No, it hasn't. If it has, SHOW US ONE, just one example of this in the real world. As usual, you can't.
You never saw a spacecraft, a submarine and a mag lev train? In what retarded world do you live?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/... MagLevs, development started around 1922, working "prototype" in germany since 1971, working large scale demonstration since 1984, first commercial track, about a mile long since 1983 in Berlin.
Long range tracks in China since end of 2002: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Can't be so hard to google for english versions.
Putting that into a tube and evacuate it, is as simple as building a submarine. No idea in what stone age idea of how technology and science works you live.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Three universities in Germany have a small scale version, how retarded are you?
Then show us a link, angel'o'sphere, show us one of these working prototypes of a vacuum train transport system.
If you're so sure this is a workable concept, why not bet some money on it? If you can't afford $10,000, let's bet $1,000, or even just 1 dollar.
Put your money where your mouth is, angel'o'sphere. If you won't, then I think that tells us all we need to know about your belief in this nonsense scheme.
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Vacuum or low pressure air pressure "pneumatic delivery" we have since the 19th century.
Modern concepts for cargo and passengers are:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/...
http://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/ein-...
http://www.trendsderzukunft.de...
Your google foo must be low on you.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Your google foo must be low on you.
Your intelligence foo must be low on you.
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