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FBI Probes Hacking of Democratic Congressional Group (reuters.com)
From a Reuters report: The FBI is investigating a cyber attack against another U.S. Democratic Party group, which may be related to an earlier hack against the Democratic National Committee
, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. The previously unreported incident at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, or DCCC, and its potential ties to Russian hackers are likely to heighten accusations, so far unproven, that Moscow is trying to meddle in the U.S. presidential election campaign to help Republican nominee Donald Trump. The Kremlin denied involvement in the DCCC cyber-attack. Hacking of the party's emails caused discord among Democrats at the party's convention in Philadelphia to nominate Hillary Clinton as its presidential candidate. The newly disclosed breach at the DCCC may have been intended to gather information about donors, rather than to steal money, the sources said on Thursday.
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
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The idiots are the ones willing to ignore what was said in those emails and voicemails. Clinton is repeating the past once again from Watergate to Whitewater and now Clintongate itself. This goes all the way to the top and it doesn't matter how many aides or chairmen/women fall on their swords for her. Hillary "Rotten" Clinton is the big establishment elitist nightmare this country needs to wake up from desperately. Bernie supporters have. It's too bad Sheeple Democrats haven't.
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Such a perfect captcha to describe whenever the truth is spoken here on leftdot.
right... and the fact that trump has been selling properties to putin cronies for huge profit margins is simply coincidental
but, throw any wildly inaccurate claims of criminality at Hillary and there are dozens of trolls popping up to ditto-head it and call it +1 insightful
Actual quote:
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press"
Trump asked hackers to travel back in time and hack the server when it was still online?
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The server is still online which would be a pretty big story itself.
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He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
They won't prosecute if it's Her Highness, but they'll be happy to prosecute if there's an unsubstantiated allegation that besmirches Her Highness.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Or he was just saying shit to stay in the news cycle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for Trump. But he has a pathological need for attention. So, he says all kinds of stupid shit to get attention, and then gets more attention by saying it was a joke, or you "obviously" misunderstood him.
So, yeah, not something you want in a President. Not that Hillary Clinton is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, mind you, but I'm not up for giving the launch codes to a temperamental man-baby.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
...as long as they didn't KNOW that anything they took was secret, no prosecutable crime was committed?
After all, "... no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case..."
-Styopa
I don't think Vlad P is _that_ invested in having Trump win. If he is, Trump's ties to him go deeper than mere admiration.
Anything that hurts the US and weakens America's influence in the world helps Russia. Putin probably sees 2 likely outcomes with Trump winning: Trump does exactly what he has campaigned on and the US becomes protectionist, isolationist, and it's economy stagnates; leaving a large power vacuum that Russia could neatly slide into; or Trump wins, becomes a Putin/Erdogan-lite president and spends most of his time consolidating power, fighting off a hostile Congress, and trying to rebrand the White House as the Trump White House (or maybe just the Trump House?), leaving Putin alone to continue his Eastern European anschluss and growing influence in the Middle East. Either way, a Trump win is a Putin win.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
The trigger happy twitter fingers of Trump is what gets the security service guys nervous. He is scheduled to get his first security briefing. There's nothing stopping him from tweeting that information and then blowing up the reaction into another Media Moment for himself. If he makes it big enough, it would look like the Federal Government is singling him out. That they should do but it will only play into his hands. His sycophants in the Republican party will tut-tut and claim it isn't that bad. His infantile voters will find a way to stomach it because he's Telling it Like it Is and Blowing Against the Man.
So far as I know, the only people saying it was Russia are DNC officials, the same people that couldn't manage to secure a mail server and the same people that have an extreme interest in making sure their underhanded subverting of Bernie Sanders' campaign wasn't the story. But they're experts at network forensics, apparently, after only 4 days of work... Meanwhile it took months for the FBI & CIA to say they think the Sony hack was done by North Korea. Maybe the FBI and CIA should start hiring Hilary's cronies to do their hacking investigations for them.
It's almost hysterical, this loonbait conspiracy crap. Why should Putin favor Trump, when Trump clearly favors the US over all other countries? (as a President for any particular country *should* be putting the interests of his own countrymen first). Putin would more likely actually prefer a POTUS that is going to be weaker on foreign policy, if anything; just about everyone wants to knock the US down a peg or three.
It's just FUD and hypocritical fearmongering from the DNC; instead of getting their panties twisted up over terrorism, which is actually a credible future threat, they're getting them twisted up over a supposed conspiracy between Russia and a real estate tycoon/nominee. You can't make this stuff up. It's rather pathetic.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Yeah, I have to figure that a lot of people are worried that Trump can't keep his mouth shut when it comes to classified information. Mind you, if he does deliberately spout classified information, it can only hurt his campaign in the long run, because it shows that he shouldn't have been allowed that information in the first place.
What they need to do is give Trump and Clinton slightly different briefings... still accurate, but formulated that in the event that one or the other of them leaks it (not just on Twitter), it's easier to trace back to which one of the two leaked the information. They've caught spies before that way.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Yeah it's a sad day in America when we need the Russians to expose our corruption.
Because the Media and the Justice System won't do their damn jobs.
We can hope that he wont at least strip the classification off the material and then have that 0information transferred to an insecure email server.
Look at the bright side, he might say something that breaches national security and they could jail him. Oh wait a minute, maybe not, because when Hillary actually did that very same thing they didn't.
Oh no we mustn't trust Trump.
As soon as I saw that real consequences started happening because of the DNC hack, my first thought was, "Hmm, well, some consumer-grade Exchange box sitting on the end of a Comcast connection running without an SSL certificate for two months would be a piece of cake compared to the DNC's infrastructure. Somebody's for sure got those deleted emails." Heck, even Comey himself testified that the FBI was able to reconstitute thousands of work-related emails. Maybe we don't need the Russkies or the script kiddies to give us the emails, our own FBI could fork them over.
Regardless, yeah, I'd like to see those emails. I think 30,000 emails about yoga would be interesting.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
He didn't "ask Russia to do this". He was joking about Clinton's missing 30,000 emails. Emails that are apparently now a national security concern even though they're just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding, according to Hillary.
Do you have ESP?
Really ?
Hmmm "No reasonable prosecutor would bring the case against Hillary Clinton"
Changing the subject to Russia constantly has been a big help recently. It changes the subject from what we all should be paying attention to, the content of these mails. Instead our attention is diverted away to the man juggling, while the thief picks our pockets clean. This was no ordinary hack, the freaking chairwoman of the DNC has already resigned over it and more resignations will be coming in the days to come. The Democratic Party is not what everyone thought it was
They ridiculed an African-American woman named LaQueenia Gibson. Yes, the Democrats did this. They wanted to use use Bernie Sandersâ(TM) religious beliefs against him in the Democratic primary. They blocked off roads to an event the opposition was hosting. Does any of this sound like Third World banana republic bullshit to you? That's because it is. And it really happened, here, in America.
And let's not forget their greatest crime: subverting the democratic process and the people's will in favor of a crooked, rotten career politician. Disgusting. It's like watching a friend you've known for years suddenly start kicking the crap out of a stray dog, the howling and crying goes on and on but he just doesn't stop. No wonder they want to change the subject to Russia. Articles like this help and are part of the whole rotten problem.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Yes, if you just interpret Trump's bizarre statements in just the right way, with just the right amount of rationalization, suddenly he's a genius!
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
You are missing the point. Yes, ISIS is bad. Needs to have its ass kicked. But they are not a superpower, and they will never become one. The real conflict - the one for trillions of dollars and global domination - is between the superpowers: the United States, Russia, and China.
Why do these three countries care about what happens in the Middle East? Because there's a fuckton of oil there. Yes, all three superpowers have their own fucktons of oil on their own respective territories -- but if you're a superpower, wouldn't it be nice to have influence over the rest of the oil market too?
So that's what the real battle is about: TPP is our attempt to keep the rest of Asia trading with the US, and not be dependent on China. Ukraine is about Putin's attempt to retake territories and resources formerly held by the USSR before its collapse. And NATO is our attempt to integrate those same territories and resources into the West. Israel and Turkey are our "sorta friendly" airbases. Syria is Russia's "sorta friendly" airbase. The prize in the middle east is control of the oil of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and a shot at Iran's oil. ISIS is merely the excuse the superpowers are using this year.
Putin absolutely wants Trump to win -- not because of Trump's policy on ISIS, but because he knows Trump, having no foreign policy experience of his own, will be easier to influence and manipulate. Especially with folks like Paul Manafort (this guy has a long history of working for dictators, and his last big contract was working for Putin's Yanukovich before the Ukraine blew up) on Trump's team telling Trump exactly what to think.
Geopolitically speaking, this election isn't about Trump vs. Hillary. It's about whether you want US foreign policy to be directed by Americans (however crooked one of them might be) or by the Russians (however strong they might make their voters feel). Given that choice, I'd suggest voting for the crook: it's important.
Who released STUXNET info for political purposes so as to look important?
That wasn't Trump was it? No. It was the clown who is currently in the office.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
You must work for the media, good spin there. I just have 2 words 'Pentagon Papers'...
Ok. More than 2 words. The media & the Justice Department don't have to break the law to 'do their jobs', the latter has the power of warrants to compel turning over all documentation they want. Given the content of the released e-mails ask yourself if the JD is really doing their jobs by not investigating the 'pay-for-play' comments at a minimum. Why is the media not following up on that? Why has the media, by & large, given the Clinton Foundation and Hillary herself a pass based on verified information in Clinton Cash? No, just let her go on 60 Minutes and throw soft-ball questions at her...let her completely skate on a simple question about whether or not its improper for members of the DNC to favour one person over another (note the question didn't ask about THESE e-mails just 'any attempt')...its a simply 'yes/no' question. How hard is it for that talking head asking the questions to do a simple/quick follow up on her answer eg. 'The question wasn't about this incident, I'm just asking if in your view any attempt to influence the candidate selection is improper.'
Now, don't get me wrong, Trumps a complete ass. But Hillary is NOT the person you want as President either. If the media & JD had been doing their jobs maybe, just maybe the American people would have better candidates than these 2 jokers to vote for.
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He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
Pretty much this. Donald Trump asked the hackers to release the emails if they have them. Anti-Trump press outlets are reporting it as him asking the hackers to go out and hack Hillary Clinton which is patently false. It further undermines the credibility of the press to have these headlines out there saying Trump is calling on foreign hackers to hack Hillary Clinton... they already hacked her and he is just calling for them to release the missing emails that she illegally deleted in the first place.
It seems that 90% to 95% of what press reporting is out there is agenda driven spin which bends any semblance of the truth beyond its breaking point.
Trump certainly says things that are over the top, but then the press appears to need to take it a step further in their "interpretation" and put words in his mouth that he simply did not say.
I am not a Trump supporter. I really hope that neither Trump or Clinton win as either would be very very bad for the United States, Gov. Johnson appears to be the only rational, not evil, and qualified candidate on the ballot.
But more disturbing than who is going to get elected president is the lack of an Independent free press in the US. That is what is going to kill us.
Trump himself has said that he will make decisions in the Oval Office based on "what he knows beforehand" and "his common sense" not based on pulling enough information from people who know better than he does. In fact, he also claimed that he knows more about the Iraq War than the generals who were in charge of it. Even setting my policy disagreements with him aside, the idea of a President who would make decisions based on the first thing that pops into their head instead of based on getting all of the available information is scary - no matter what party they belong to.
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0 - Trump's comment was pure sarcasm, and all those who didn't get it at the moment also don't get Trump, and won;t get why he will win.
1 - Any questions on why you don't get Trump I will not answer. You won't get the answer either.
2 - Every state is attacking every other state's data, and at every level. Some are more successful than others. If you don't think an individual, moderately technology-capable, state is doing this, then they are entirely successful in hiding their efforts, and their success at getting data is unknown, but non-zero. Do not doubt this. Cyberattacks are the single best example of asymmetrical warfare. It is hugely cheaper to defeat Internet security than it is to implement it. Huge payoff.
3 - This is proof that there is no absolute security, only security making it unprofitable to circumvent or compromised security that the compromise is not yet detected.
4 - The DNC hack is unworthy of the FBI's time - they are a private organization. The DCCC hack is also, but because it has the word 'Congressional' in the name, the FBI will be dragged into it.
5 - If the DCCC hack exposes confidential information with a national security exposure, that is a failure of a congressional caucus dealing with sensitive data improperly. More fast and loose with important data? Probably. Consequences? Not likely.
Whoop. Expect more of these.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
They keep investigating the HACKS. Not the corruption and crime the hacks expose. THE FBI IS CORRUPT AS FUCK.