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Movie Studios 'Take Down' Popular KAT Mirror
Following the shut down of KickassTorrents website -- after its alleged owner was arrested, Hollywood studios are playing the game of cat and mouse with pirates to put an absolute end to KickassTorrents. An anonymous reader writes: One of the most popular KAT mirrors has had its domain name taken down following pressure from the major Hollywood studios. The Armenian .AM registry was quick to disable the KAT.am domain, after it received a stark warning from the Motion Picture Association, representing Hollywood's major studios. This notice requires you to immediately (within 24 hours) take effective measures to end and prevent further copyright infringement. All opportunities provided by the website to download, stream or otherwise obtain access to the entertainment content should be disabled permanently," MPA's email reads.As TorrentFreak reports, the takedown of kat.am domain isn't the end of the website. The publication spoke to the operator of the website, and learned that they were "making continuous" attempts to bring the website back -- utilizing the channels available. Kat.am is down already, but kickass.cd and kickass.mx mirros have since cropped up. Slashdot understands that Kickass torrent community is now back in action again, on a whole new domain.
If you cut down one head, two will grow back.
"A game of rat and mouse"? I see what you did there.
Don't try to be clever, try to be a better editor than what Slashdot is used to.
Thinking they can take down links to torrents is the height of hubris.
n/t
Have gnu, will travel.
It's a futile battle.
isn't the supposed be a disclaimer about what /. does and does not promote?
Can't just replace kat.cr with kickass.cd, the RSS feed facility is badly broken.
RSS feeds seems to work at the top-level categories, but you can't turn your search results into an RSS feed anymore... Still got the RSS icon at the top of the page and in the META so your browser bar shows it. But both just show the same old HTML page instead of an RSS page:
e.g. http://kickass.cd/usearch/test...
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
son: what ever happened to the time when we owned a movie studio?
grandfather: oh it was a magical time. we hired actors and writers and musicians. we had neat ideas and we tried our best at first to make the greatest films we could think of with the best actors. Cagney and Gable and Poitier and Ball...they were a wonder to behold.
son: and then? did they all go away? what happened?
father: we spent 30 years playing whack-a-mole with Scandinavian and Armenian web sites that took pocket change to run but millions to shut down. We cranked out 15 ghost busters and another 25 twilight movies. in the end, I think the Fast and the Furious 185 was about a talking irish cat? i cant remember. mother: everyone gather round! the torrents finished and we can finally watch Taken 56. this is the one where they take his altoids and hes even madder!
Good people go to bed earlier.
I'll keep a close eye on this one. Whatever they come up with to "end a website" should also be applied to combat terrorism, racism, etc...
Honestly, at some point people are going to realize that the Hollywood studios are dumping a lot of money into fighting copyright infringement, and that the price of movies has come down considerably (a lot of new DVDs are now $8 and less where I live). What the hell? New movies used to be $30+. How much money were those fucks making? TONS! And it's easy enough to just go to RedBox or Netflix, and for $1.50 rent a movie, copy it, repeat, forget downloading torrents.
Nah, I say the fight against really high prices for 2 hours of entertainment has been won by all.
... after it received a stark warning from the Motion Picture Association, representing Hollywood's major studios.
Take it down or Michael Bay will make a movie about you.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Don't you mean "cat and mouse"?
Oh, right. Got it.
It's not stealing nor sharing, it's copying.
It ain't free. The same people that make content own the pipes and they are just raising the prices for your access.
I guess it's the only way to avoid invasion though.
Still sucks to see Hollywood dictating its demands to the whole world.
And it still sucks to have the ISP as our singular connection to the internet. Where's our redundancy?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
If you steal something from me, i.e. deprive me of its use, I might be a bit upset. But if that's not the case, I can't really see a big problem. During the week you can have my car if you need it, I only use it on the weekends, just return it as you took it, if it's not too much of a hassle.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You sound so manure.
"The more you tighten your grip, MPAA , the more torrents will slip through your fingers."
Save the shtick for the publishers and distributors. I mean, if you care so much for the artists.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
You're not alone. Let 'em downrate the comment all they want but the SIMPLE FACT REMAINS; They're cheap-ass punks who think the world is theirs for the taking.
Car analogy: the people who rent out the pipes to you are like car makers and oil companies -- both of them provide infrastructure for moving things/persons. The content makers are like grocery stores. Just because you paid for your car and gasoline, does not mean you are entitled to free food from the grocer.
14/14 or bust. Copyright is badly broken. Do you know what happens to laws that people don't respect? They ignore them. The content holders have no one but themselves to blame.
ISPs sell you a high speed connection.
High speed connection TO WHAT?!
Hey Comcast. Why do I need 108mbit BASE TIER internet speed? Really fast emailz? Oh, I should upgrade my service to the next tier? So I can get those emailz even fast4r??!!
"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
If they put their money into making really good movies, instead of spending it playing whack-a-mole with torrent sites, maybe people would go to the movies again. The current method of remaking everything with ethnically diverse cast members is boring, as was the previous method of using 3 minutes of poorly written dialog masquerading as plot between CGI content segments.
I'd like your opinion on the grey area.
example's arranged from most to least grey
Using software to fake having a disk so you can buy a digital copy for $1 to $2.
Paying for netflix and then paying extra for a vpn so you can watch movies from other regions.
Buying digital HD codes off of people.
Using amazon prime's no rush shipping to get free movies.
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
During the week you can have my car if you need it, I only use it on the weekends, just return it as you took it, if it's not too much of a hassle.
In a blaze of blue and red flashing lights, sirens and squealing tires?
You got it, buddy!
With its own distributed DNS and distributed search engines. Distributed everything.
Hey Comcast. Why do I need 108mbit BASE TIER internet speed? Really fast emailz?
Don't act naive. Video sites like Youtube and Vimeo don't work well without a high bandwidth connection. You also need high-speed connection for premium content like Netflix or Hulu. Once bandwidth is cheap, all videos will be at least 1080p.
Downloading massive apps like games on your phone/tablet also requires a lot of bandwidth. Music streaming sites also need high bandwidth unless you like waiting many seconds between songs.
Well, if artists (especially musicians) are not deserving of a dollar, due to not being deprived of physical objects...
Factory workers ...none of these people should be paid. They should just do it for free, and get a day job. Or they should make money from selling t-shirts.
Sysadmins
Lawyers
Taxi drivers
Truck drivers
Surgeons
Teachers
Most scientists
Ship captains and crew
Astronauts
Shop assistants
Burger flippers
Waiters
Office staff
Web designers
Programmers
Build a mobile app with an auto-updater, lists of IP addresses that it can query for domain resolution (which are also remotely update-able), encrypted queries, and Tor or proxy support. Use THAT to keep track of otherwise should-be-dark sites and content. DNS is broken and we need a better way forward anyway.
You're an idiot.
I wanted to pay for Game of Thrones. I really wanted. I have plenty of money and I like the show, why not? And I wanted to watch it on Sunday night rather than wait for the torrents to be available on Monday morning.
So I looked it up online, it turns out that HBO does stream it, for 15 dollars a month. A bit expensive for a single series, but whatever. I have already watched too much of it for free anyway. Ok, do they stream it live? Yep, but on US time. In the UK they show it Monday night. Ugh. So paying for it won't even let me watch it on Sunday night. Whatever, at least it will be more convenient than downloading torrents from KAT or Pirate Bay, that are constantly being DDOS'ed. So, how do I sign up? I need to use a smartphone. Weird stuff. Why I smartphone? I'm not going to watch Game of Thrones on my phone, I'm going to watch it on my computer. Ok, so they allow me to watch it on my computer after I sign up through the phone. Sigh. Ok, to Google Play, and, where is it? No HBO app. Oh, it's US only. So go fuck yourself, HBO. Back to KAT.
And this is why torrent sites will never disappear. Even people that can and want to pay for the content are forced to torrent it. Even if they manage to kill KAT, there will be other sites where I will watch the next season.
entropy happens
The same time kat.cr got taken down, solarmove.is is down too. I think the same people / servers were hosting both. Curious if anyone knows?
Hey Comcast. Why do I need 108mbit BASE TIER internet speed? Really fast emailz?
Don't act naive. Video sites like Youtube and Vimeo don't work well without a high bandwidth connection. You also need high-speed connection for premium content like Netflix or Hulu. Once bandwidth is cheap, all videos will be at least 1080p.
Downloading massive apps like games on your phone/tablet also requires a lot of bandwidth. Music streaming sites also need high bandwidth unless you like waiting many seconds between songs.
Did you take any measurements on your usage or you assume the needs for those speeds?
I live with 30mb/s quite confortably, using netflix, youtube, etc on multiple PC on the house at the same time, sometimes adjusting usages is better then increasing bandwidth.
Like who needs to listen to music on youtube at 720p or 1080p when it runs on background? why do kids need 1080p quality for watching movies like "mermaid" or some other netflix show?
Nature is smart, take as an example the balance between muscular mass/fat mass and the food intake.
Am I right saying that torrent indexing is what is always get shut down? Is there a way to decentralize that with... I don't know, elastic search may be... Kind of having a distributed database that anyone could join and build their front-end from that?
I must be missing something huge, because it seems to me that KAT really wasn't doing anything illegal, to the extent that they were hosting torrent files, not actually illegally hosting copyrighted content (like MegaUpload was.) Torrent files are really only informational files containing metadata and links to tracker sites--none of which is in-and-of-itself illegally hosting copyrighted material.
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
... when I was brought aboard. The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
Imagine all the people...
I think you made your point.
But, not going to movies does not mean that you have download torrents.
You can rent movies from Amazon, or Google Play, or there is always Redbox.
If you wait six months after a movie is released, you can watch at home for practically nothing.
I don't need any moral justification. I can take it and you can't stop me. Sorry to be the first to let you know about life not being fair, I thought you'd have figured that out by now.
And if this whole NSA thing has taught us anything, it is that meta-data is much different than data, right?
Then maybe our government will do something about taking down sites that facilitate online recruitment and radicalization instead of chasing after college students uploading ripped movies. Because Hollywood donors have much more pool with congress people than victims of terrorist attacks.
Netflix at 1080p is ~12mbit stream.
In a world where no one does that horrible icky filesharing stuff, why is BASE TIER residential Comcast internet 108mbit in my market?
"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
0sec ftp 4 lyfe
Probably so Comcast can tell you how great their service is nationwide after averaging it with markets like mine, where the base tier is 2Mbits and the uppermost is 20Mbit.
Great point!
How about a periodic fee to be allowed to download copyrighted material? The system would be run by the national societies ASCAP/SACEM etc. It would be much cheaper for old stuff. The fee would also depend on the category (music, movies, software, etc) and might be subject to a volume limit. It would then be redistributed to the authors using the download statistics. Many would still cheat of course but not all (see the working though overpriced itunes, amazon, etc.) and I am inclined to think that the system could overall work satisfactorily. IMHO at least worth a try.
kickass.cd and kickass.am both require cloudflare and captcha which means javascript.
Trap on, fools.
Also, Movie Studios don't take down shit. It is the US government paid for by taxpayers. So broke yet the US has money to police torrent sites for Jews.
The whole fucking kat.cr domain went down because of ONE torrent. That torrent is Tails 1.4.1. It is the last uncompromised Tails Linux Live DVD. Do not underestimate Ed Snowden's homework nor the things he has yet to release.
They were charged with conspiracy to commit copyright infringement, copyright infringement, and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
Conspiracy means they had to intentionally help others on a large scale to commit a crime or crimes. One could say, hey, it's all just 1s and 0s... but, the truth is that they acted in a large scale (globally) to intentionally help others pirate copyrighted materials. It's not so much the torrent or magnet links... it's the business model they created that shuttled funds through various dummy corps, countries, and bank accounts (money laundering) and that it was built on the back of supporting international copyright infringement.
Not sayin' I approve or disapprove... just... legally, KAT made the mistake of crossing into USA jurisdiction and the jurisdiction of various countries with similar laws, treaties with the USA, and extradition treaties with the USA. Still.... innocent until proven guilty & a jury might not convict on the conspiracy charges - though I doubt it. If I were him, I'd take a deal and plead to the lesser charges.
Namecoin decentralized DNS:
https://github.com/namecoin/wiki/blob/master/HowToBrowseBitDomainsAdvanced.mediawiki
The Gargoyle router firmware supports Namecoin DNS resolution:
https://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2120
OpenNIC supports Namecoin DNS resolution:
https://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/how-to-change-dns-servers-in-dd-wrt/
Not sayin' I approve or disapprove... just... legally, KAT made the mistake of crossing into USA jurisdiction and the jurisdiction of various countries with similar laws, treaties with the USA, and extradition treaties with the USA.
Didn't MS just get a ruling that the USA has no jurisdiction in other countries?
If it is about the USA strong arming other countries, why don't they get tough with Ireland and get back all the tax dollars Apple and others are hiding there?
Many people today think that big corporations are evil. I rather think some of their decision making people aren’t necessarily very brilliant and knowledgeable.
And yes, those who don’t or can’t pay hopefully will one day. Hollywood, ASCAP etc. shouldn’t make them enemies.
...over the air and cable/satellite television.