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AMD Extends Polaris GPU Line-up With Mainstream Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 (hothardware.com)
Some more graphics cards news via our long time reader MojoKid: AMD is officially announcing its newest mainstream members of the Polaris graphics family today, known as the Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460. AMD is touting the RX 470 as a perfect companion for 1080p resolution gaming, offering 60+ FPS performance (with anti-aliasing enabled) in popular game titles. The RX 460, on the other hand, is based on Polaris 11 architecture, which has a more budget-minded performance profile. If all you're looking for is an efficient, yet capable eSports gaming card, then AMD claims the RX 460 still has you covered. Peak compute performance for the RX 470 drops in at 4.9 TFLOPs (compared to 5.8 TFLOPs for the Radeon RX 480). The RX 460 has less than half the stream processors and less than half the compute units of the RX 470 and as a result, the peak compute performance stands at 2.2 TFLOPs. Pricing for the Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 is set at $149 and $99 MSRP, respectively.
If they can get that kinda performance with good stability. I haven't tried AMD since the 43xx era because the 4350 I used to replace an aging 1650x could never stay stable in the game I was playing at the time Psychnauts) and my friends with AMD either had tons of stability issue or only ever play big titles like Call of Duty and Dots ( which run fine)
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If all you're looking for is an efficient, yet capable eSports gaming card
eSPorts gaming card?? The inane desperation is strong in this one...
Sure, but if you're trying to do, say, some GPU computing with a limited budget, it might (?) be wise to shop around and perhaps settle for multiple budget cards as opposed to one mid/high-end card. Taking the numbers at face value, the RX470 claims to offer 4.9 TFLOPs for $150, whereas the GTX1080 is something like 9 TFLOPS for ~$600 (I'm assuming these are comparable floating point tests, but perhaps they're not...).
Yes, I'd rather an Nvidia card that offers good performance and "just works" under Linux -- but everyone has their own requirements.
cool troll bro. AMD works flawlessly on linux with FLOSS drivers, and you don't even have to poke the code (in fact, it's in most distro's as binaries! that work! shocking!) You DO lose some performance, but AMDGPU drivers are still a heavy WIP that AMD and community are rapidly improving. But you keep trollin'.
Seriously, this is a nerd site, and nerds care about performance.
Some do, some don't.
Maybe some of you want to spend your days looking through open source video driver code, but real nerds want to actually do stuff and get good video performance.
So, someone's not a "real nerd" if they want to spend "days looking through open source video driver code" (sounds pretty stereotypically nerdish to me) rather than just getting stuff done (which was traditionally associated with ordinary, non-nerdish users who saw the technology as just a means to an end)?
Let's face it; you're trying to force a definition of "nerd" that supports your own point of view, a la "No true Scotsman".
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The problem with a lot of the budget cards this go round seems to be things other than computational restrictions; things like memory throughput and limited compute units are what will hold these back.
I'm a bit disappointed with these latest offerings as I currently have a old 280X that is almost comparable to the RX480 and probably still better all-around than the RX470; Having to go to the top tier just to have a reasonable upgrade from a card that's 3 years old feels wrong. I shouldn't complain though, the value over time for my existing card has been great.
Yes this is a nerd site, we like to know what our options are.
What you think we are is some kind of performance masturbators, they have other sites to look at.
But how are they at ETH mining?
Is that some /g/ copypasta?
Seriously, this is a nerd site, and nerds care about performance.
True nerds don't care about graphics performance, they only care how fast their GPU can do matrix multiplications in OpenCL/CUDA for their neural network training cycles.
Has anyone benchmarked these cards for, say, a three layer denoising autoencoder ANN on MNIST digit recognition?
How can AMD expect to compete with these puny chips?
Right, but even then, I don't care how fast my GPU can do anything. What I do care about is that the code I write is efficient enough that there won't be bottlenecks on my workstation. I mean, it has to scale too, right? And when I need to use an API, it should work on my workstation. That includes 3D stuff, whether I'm doing graphics or statistics. That's why I love my AMD A-series! It isn't the fastest at anything, and it isn't the most efficient on the market, but it is the most efficient that can "do everything" without needing a discrete card. If I had a more powerful system, the fans would all have to run faster, and it would be noisy and obnoxious. I could build a box around it, but then it would build up heat and reduce the life of the components.
The idea that a modern linux user has to futz with things is kinda funny. Linux is a great choice because it lets you futz, but no, that hasn't been required for a... long long time. If he doesn't want to futz, he shouldn't futz. But why does he think nerds are against doing it? What if I miss calculating modelines?
Car analogy time:
Someone who only cares about performance? We call those race drivers. Someone who only wants a solid car to drive often? Taxi driver. Car enthusiasts/nerds will probably have some oddball car polished and styled in top condition and spend an inordinate amount of time keeping it that way. That said, most of them don't want a broken transmission. It's not the sort of thing you casually tinker with, it's very basic functionality that has to work. Fixing it yourself would be very nerdy but it's for a special few. I have the feeling OS/driver issues are the same for computer nerds, most want that part to work so they can be nerds on a different level. It's not exactly like a kernel panic makes me want to be a kernel developer...
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The RX250 sounds like a candidate for passive cooling. As soon as I see one of those I will grab it, silence is a big deal, and 2.2 tflops is still a lot for my needs.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Just had a look at when the first supercomputer broke the TFLOP mark and it was only 20 years ago, and now we can get 5 TFLOPs for under $200. Magic.
That's the worst car analogy ever, sort of like a Yugo.