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Israel's SolidRun Creates Open Networking Kit Inspired By Raspberry Pi (venturebeat.com)

Reader joshtops shares a VentureBeat report: SolidRun, a developer of electronic modules and PCs, said it is launching ClearFog Base kit, an off-the-shelf open development kit that enables do-it-yourself hardware enthusiasts to create their own telecom-grade routers. The kit is based on the Marvell Armada 38x SoC processor that runs on open source software based on OpenWrt. It lets enthusiasts build telecom-grade routers capable of Gigabit speed and embedded storage. The kit is inspired by the DIY computer kit, Raspberry Pi, which has sold a surprisingly large number of units. With OpenWrt support and several connectivity options, device makers can easily utilize the ClearFog Base within their own products to bridge a variety of network standards, like LAN, Wi-Fi, LTE, Fiber, and DSL. They can also utilize mikroBUS boards for IoT type networking standards such as ZigBee, Sub GHz, Bluetooth, and others. The $70 kit was created by Tel-Aviv, Israel-based SolidRun.

76 comments

  1. Does the Pi have the hardware to be wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would think it couldn't broadcast a good 2.4 and 5 signal like a similar 70 dollar router could. Maybe this is ok wired, but wireless? Eh.

    This is also ignoring the fact that the Pi has a heat issue and loves to garble SD cards. Better take regular backups of your SD card.

    1. Re:Does the Pi have the hardware to be wireless? by by+(1706743) · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, you could make a slick implementation of this.

      I had a lot of trouble with garbled SD cards until I switched to a different power adapter. The newish, 2A Samsung supply I had ended up causing stability issues, whereas my old flip-phone micro-USB power supply works just fine. (Although before I figured that out, my initial workaround was to use an NFS root filesystem, which does have its advantages I guess.)

  2. Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies, I don't know what I'd use this for. Maybe a wifi repeater?

    1. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by gmack · · Score: 1

      The dual ethernet ports, so it it can be a good firewall. It has a mini pcie slot and SIM card slot so it can be a 3G gateway.

    2. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm on the other side of that fence: much as this sounds cool and all, I won't support Israeli companies.

    3. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Where do you see a SIM card slot?

    4. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      feel free to unplug your USB flashdrive, high-speed internet, intel CPU and enjoy your side of that fence.

    5. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by gmack · · Score: 1

      On page 5 of the data sheet Next to the MicroSD slot.

    6. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by denis-The-menace · · Score: 1

      Dual Ethernet ports?

      Try QUAD Ethernet ports!
        (http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/fitlet/)

      Weirdly also from an Israeli firm.

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    7. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to support Israeli companies, buy armaments.

    8. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only filthy Anti Semites like you equates "Israeli" with "Jewish".

    9. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by gmack · · Score: 1

      The downside of the Fitlet is the much higher price point.

    10. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you'll be supporting ISIS, Al Qada, Taliban, Hamass, Hezbullah, Boko Haram, Islamofascist Iran, Al Nusra, Al Shabab. Good for ya moron!

    11. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only murderous ignorant human scum support genocidal islamofascist apartheid sharia law states known as ISIS and its excrements like this. You are free to be one.

    12. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Thanks. The website was not responding when I tried looking for more info earlier.

    13. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by fnj · · Score: 1

      I could only find units with 3 ethernets on their order page, and the prices were all highly insulting (over $300).

    14. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Sun · · Score: 1

      USB flashdrive: developed by Israeli company SanDisk.
      Intel CPU: About half of them are designed in Intel's research center at Matam, Haifa, Israel.
      I have no idea which company the high-speed internet remark refers to.

      Shachar

    15. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by Curtman · · Score: 1

      I bought their "Hummingboard" when it came out. It had horrible stability issues, many features didn't work and still don't. The support pages are full of dead links now. Total garbage, once bitten twice shy.

      And I received a bunch of Israeli propaganda in my inbox after purchasing that was not expected or wanted.

    16. Re:Much as I'd like to support Israeli companies by tigersha · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. A router with 2 ports is a bit meh.

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  3. finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    been waiting forever for a company to build something like this: cheap, powerful but low-power usage.

  4. Re:Very nice by halivar · · Score: 0

    You must be popular at parties.

  5. It's like the Sixth Sense by HBI · · Score: 1

    ...I see DIP switches...

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    HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
    1. Re:It's like the Sixth Sense by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      Thats makes it rather endearing to me.

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      No sir I dont like it.
  6. WTH is telecom grade??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTH is telecom grade???

    There's carrier grade, and this certainly isn't it.

  7. Mesh networking? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    Ctrl-F'd for 'mesh' and on both TFA and found nothing. Does anyone know if the software will be there to make these turn key mesh networks?

    I have ~40 acres 0.15 sq km and would like to get wifi to a few parts. A few of these on solar panels would be perfect.

    1. Re:Mesh networking? by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      Yes. OpenWRT uses OLSR

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    2. Re:Mesh networking? by chispito · · Score: 1

      Ctrl-F'd for 'mesh' and on both TFA and found nothing. Does anyone know if the software will be there to make these turn key mesh networks?

      I have ~40 acres 0.15 sq km and would like to get wifi to a few parts. A few of these on solar panels would be perfect.

      If you're just trying to get wifi to a few parts, aren't you better off with a hub and spoke network? Mesh networking seems pretty inefficient to do spot coverage over 40 acres. Mesh networking is, from my understanding, best suited to dense usage.

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    3. Re:Mesh networking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't think you would need more than two AP's to do 40 acres(*). I have 26 acres, and the consumer wifi router on the second floor of the house covers a third of it OK.

      I used to be a WISP. An old 9dBi(?) omni antenna (looks like a 6' stick), mounted high (like 40' up) would cover about 1000' radius to normal wifi devices. That would give you BG speeds. I haven't played around with outdoor antenna since N and MIMO came out. Look at Ubiquiti or Mikrotik gear, $300 would go a long ways.

      Really, foliage is the biggest limiting factor.

      (*) unless you are trying to do perfect coverage, high speed, or have lots of foliage. Or are trying to support dozens of people at once. Assuming your 40A is somewhat square.

  8. Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just another scam to sell more Raspberry Pi's right?

  9. Untangle... by MadCow42 · · Score: 1

    I'd love to see Untangle or another firewall option built on this. Small, low-power, cheap, no fan...

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  10. Great News by sandy8036 · · Score: 1

    I like the news but can understand properly what is OpenWrt?

    1. Re:Great News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly. Mods didn't even give you 2 on this. Slashdot are total faggots now sucking Microsoft's dicks just for the flavor of jizz.

      https://openwrt.org/
      http://dd-wrt.com/site/index
      http://asuswrt.lostrealm.ca/
      http://tomato.groov.pl/

      Even slashdot is spyware now. You are all faggots.

    2. Re:Great News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is your Friend

    3. Re:Great News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GOOGLE IS American Government SPY shop. Eric Schmidt = Pentagon. Super obvious yo.

      use duckduckgo.com or better yet... the onion address for duckduckgo http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/

    4. Re:Great News by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      WRT originally was a series of Linksys routers with open source linux-based firmware. This led to a variety of 3rd party firmware that added quite a bit of capabilities that weren't typically found in "consumer" routers at that time. OpenWRT one of those firmwares that has gone on to have versions for many different types of routers and embedded devices. It would be along the lines of pfSense.

  11. Slashdot MicroJewwarez the new news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1 day Microsoft ads?

    next day Jew software?

    alternate each day?

    srsly?

    1. Re: Slashdot MicroJewwarez the new news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you want https://www.stormfront.org/tech for all your jew-free news.

  12. MICRODOT MEANS -1 IS THE IMPORTANT STUFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expand all COMMENTS and CTRL-F for -1

    1. Re:MICRODOT MEANS -1 IS THE IMPORTANT STUFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch how fast this story gets bumped down the front page now.

      The fact is Slashdot like the cock. Microsoft and the United States government force cock down Slashdot editors throats all day and night merely because it is SO FUCKING EASY.

    2. Re:MICRODOT MEANS -1 IS THE IMPORTANT STUFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In COMING long SUMMARIES and long DICKS

  13. Thier Site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think we crashed it...
    https://www.solid-run.com/product/clearfog-base/

  14. Telecom grade by countach · · Score: 1

    And what exactly is a telecom grade router?

    1. Re:Telecom grade by mea2214 · · Score: 1

      In the old days telecom grade meant 5 nines availability or up %99.999 of the time. I doubt a Raspberry PI comes anywhere close.

    2. Re:Telecom grade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like "contractor grade" cabinets. Not necessarily a good thing.

    3. Re:Telecom grade by funwithBSD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now a Beowulf cluster of them...

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      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    4. Re:Telecom grade by msauve · · Score: 1

      "And what exactly is a telecom grade router?"

      Apparently, one with only 3 (4 if you include WiFi?) network interfaces, none faster than 1 Gb.

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    5. Re:Telecom grade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't a Raspberry Pi though, its simply inspired by it, being a relatively inexpensive single board that can be used in larger projects or stand alone for hobbyists. It will be interesting if it comes close to 5 nines availability though.

  15. Ethernet throughput by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What's the throughput like on the ports? The big problem with the Raspberry Pi is that the ethernet port is on the SoC's USB bus which would be a bottleneck for network gear. Presumably these guys have thought of that?

    1. Re: Ethernet throughput by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's try only on old Pis

    2. Re:Ethernet throughput by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering it's using the Marvell Armada 38x SoC instead of a Raspberry Pi (see where they said *inspired by Raspberry Pi* per the spec sheet: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/armada-38x/ it supports either two or three gigabit ports (Support 2.5G over SGMII).

  16. From 2002-2012 I used a Delll XPS P90C as a router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was a Pentium 90 computer from 1995-1996. Wasted a god awful amount of electricity but I loved the idea of keeping a Pentium 90 running for 10 years years pretty much non-stop. It needed rebooting maybe 3 times in 10 years. I was running Slackware 7 on it. I only stopped running it because I sold the house it was running it and didn't feel like packing it up.

  17. Successor to WRT54G? by grilled-cheese · · Score: 1

    This sounds like a decent replacement for the ancient WRT54G I've got in my home office.

  18. 'Inspired by' doesn't mean 'based on' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know that reading is hard and the race to snarkily comment about things means that there isn't much time to do it, but, Jesus Christ, how many of you jumped in to talk about the problems with the Raspberry Pi without even reading either the summary or the title?!

  19. pci-e based nic's or usb? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    pci-e based nic's or usb?

    The pi's usb 2.0 ones can't even do 1 full 100 link much less gig-e or even 2 100 links.

  20. Press Release by Tokolosh · · Score: 1

    Rehash of a rehash of a press release, No new news or insight here.

    SolidRun website appears to be slashdotted.

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    Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
  21. Misleading summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This board cannot do Wi-Fi, LTE, Fiber, DSL, ZigBee, Sub GHz, or Bluetooth. The summary is absolute rubbish.
    You could attach other hardware to do all of these things, but that hardware would not be this hardware.
    You could just as easily say that a Raspberry Pi Zero can be used to build a solution for Wi-Fi, LTE, Fiber, DSL, ZigBee, Sub GHz, or Bluetooth. And the Pi is 10USD

  22. It is a 50-50 Arab-Jewish Israeli company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It makes me doubly proud as a Jewish-Israeli tech worker that an Israeli company made it to Slashdot with an interesting product, and that this company was founded by two guys who are Israeli Arabs and has equal numbers of Arab and Jewish employees.

    Reference: http://www.israel21c.org/a-two-inch-computer-for-55/

    That's actually the most positive news I'd heard in a while.

    1. Re:It is a 50-50 Arab-Jewish Israeli company by linuxgurugamer · · Score: 1

      Cool!

      Nice to see cooperation

  23. Missing link to $70 kit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All I can find are the $90+ baseboard and $70 processor module -- so the kit is over $160 and at that price still doesn't have any wireless interfaces.

    None of the "mikroBUS" wireless boards (trying for confusion with the well-known Mikrotik wireless hardware, perhaps?) support MIMO. miniPCIe does give better options, but figure ~$50 for the radio card, then add antennas.

    Sorry, but no this is not $70, not price-competitive with Raspberry Pi, and not for serious networking.

    1. Re:Missing link to $70 kit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Right now I'm really wondering what it does better for routing/switching than Mikrotik, besides having GPIO available. I just bought one of their routerboards that has 5x gigabit, 5x 100x, POE in/out, and an SFP cage to boot. I can hang an arduino off the USB port for GPIO and still end up better than the CFPro.

      . /hailcorporate

    2. Re:Missing link to $70 kit by fnj · · Score: 1

      WTF are you on about? From the fucking site, "The package includes : ClearFog Base + MicroSoM A388", and it starts at $90.

      And who in the HELL would compare this in any way to a Raspberry Pi? The Pi has one 100-megabit (actually more like half of one 100-megabit). This has two gigabits.

      Finally, what kind of lightweight thinks that "serious networking" requires WiFi, or that something with one half of one ethernet port is usable in any way as a router? Nobody said anything about wireless access points.

  24. Re:TERRORISM is Islamofascism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think

    - 9/11
    - Boston Marathon bombing
    - Londons 7/7 transport bombings
    - Orlando
    - San Bernardino
    - Fort Hood
    - Brussels
    - Paris
    - Nice
    - Mumbai
    - Nairobi

  25. Re:Very nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sharia Law settlements in Eurabia are upset that you are occupying their land.

  26. There's an even bigger one by subk · · Score: 2

    I looked for this on Digikeyand didn't find it, but they do have a bunch of SolidRun boards, including the ClearFog Pro which has 6+1 GbE and an SFP, plus 2 mPCIe slots and 1 mSATA. At less than $175, that's a steal. I've been waiting for something like this that could replace the discrete routers, ethernet switches, and Arduino programming slaves at my transmitter sites, which only have a few hosts each. There have been other multi-nic SBC's, but I have yet to see one this cheap.

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    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
  27. Re:ISRAEL is Jew by linuxgurugamer · · Score: 1

    Ummm, do you have anything like facts?

  28. No RasPi has native Ethernet on SoC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All Raspberry Pi boards that provide Ethernet do so with the help of an SMSC LAN9512 (2-port) or LAN9514 (4-port) USB2.0 hub and 100Mbps Ethernet interface chip.

    There is no version of Raspberry Pi on which the Broadcom SoC provides a native Ethernet controller, as one finds on a BeagleBone Black and on most other Linux boards. All RasPi boards that have Ethernet run it over USB2.0 and so are limited by other USB traffic, as the parent said.

  29. Re: Very nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, an AC comment that was clearly derogatory now has no text?!

    How is that technically possible?

    Do slashdot editors now also edit comments? Never thought I'd see the day where censorship arrived on /.

  30. Re:ISRAEL is Jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen dipshit,

    Solid Run is an Israeli Arab company.

    Let me repeat this.

    Solid Run is an Israeli high tech startup created by Israeli Arabs. Very talented folks you can talk to on IRC.

    Appropriately, the slashdot captcha is "brickbat"

  31. Iffy OpenWRT Armada support by sabbede · · Score: 1

    In my experience anyhow. I have a WRT1200AC running OpenWRT, and last I checked (couple weeks ago) support is all over the place. Builds are forked with feature support scattered across them.