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X-Rays Reveal Hidden Portrait Under Painting By Edgar Degas (npr.org)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from NPR: Using specialized X-ray imaging, a team of researchers in Australia has revealed a striking painting of a woman's face hidden under French Impressionist Edgar Degas' Portrait of a Woman. The researchers believe the auburn-haired woman in the hidden work -- which they also attribute to Degas -- is Emma Dobigny, who was reportedly one of Degas' favorite subjects and modeled for him in 1869 and 1870. "Degas painted directly on the underlying portrait with no intermediate ground paint layer using exceptionally thin paint layers, thus little pigment is present to provide hiding power," the researchers explained in the journal Nature. "The hiding power of paint layers often decreases as oil paintings age." Even as the traces of a ghostly form emerged over the course of decades, conventional imaging technology could only provide hints of what the hidden portrait looked like. Now, an enhanced process known as X-ray fluorescence elemental mapping gives a far better picture. The technique allowed the researchers to scan for the individual elements -- such as iron, zinc and copper -- found in different colors of paint. The team said the maps "can be used to deduce pigment use based on the elements observed within the context of the painting." For example, "Fe and Mn are co-located in the hidden sitter's hair [...] strongly suggesting the use of the brown pigment umber." The researchers detected cobalt in the face, and deduced that it is "probably present as a blue pigment, which is useful in defining flesh tones." This chart shows maps of elements the researchers tested in an effort to create a representation of the hidden work.

25 comments

  1. Tomorrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    black slave discovered under george washington painting.

    "it was me, i wore a mask"

  2. Original by Dan+East · · Score: 2

    I like the original, hidden portrait better. Seems warmer and more alive. The newer painting almost looks like a woman in mourning.

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    1. Re:Original by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      The newer painting almost looks like a woman in mourning.

      The first is in morning, which was a mistake The second in mourning,.


      Those are some big vulcan ears on the first one.

    2. Re:Original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd tap that ho. Too bad she's long dead.

    3. Re:Original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like he loved the hidden girl a lot more than the visible woman. The woman in black seems so... impersonal.

    4. Re: Original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't let that stop you!

  3. The first painting was better by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    He should have kept it and not painted over it.

    1. Re:The first painting was better by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      It was never actually finished. It's very good but with rough brush strokes and it's been reworked as he changed his mind.

      I also wonder if the method used to figure out the colors used may have cause them to come out much brighter than they were originally. It does seem brighter than many Degas pieces. Another reason for painting on the top being darker may be due to the use of varnish over the surface which can darken as it ages.

    2. Re:The first painting was better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I also wonder if the method used to figure out the colors used may have cause them to come out much brighter than they were originally. It does seem brighter than many Degas pieces"

      quite possibly, the paintings were brighter to begin with.. but faded as the decades passed. painted colors do fade over time.

  4. Degas was a pedo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of Degas' paintings depict the bodies of underage girls. It has always baffled me how the art world celebrates this pervert with pedophilic proclivities.

    1. Re: Degas was a pedo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are only saying that because you are a muslim and we all know that mohammed married 5 year old girls.

      It is something different if two twelve year olds marry, or if someone rapes someone else before even her puberty. Which is what muhammed did just to spread his mindfucked religion. I'd rather have it if he'd left his warriors rape more grown up women instead! Any child deserves a traum a free childhood....ETC.

      A wondrously trolly troll.

  5. invalidate Photoshop patents, this is prior art by swschrad · · Score: 3, Funny

    first known use of layers with transparency to enhance art ;)

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    1. Re:invalidate Photoshop patents, this is prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty impressive considering the alpha-release Paintware package being used required bootstrapping your own paints on startup. Extract from the manaual: "Te make ye blue, crushe lapuz lazuli in a stone pestle, adde 3 pinches te a base o' egge white'. . . . and the technical writer for this package was a slightly retarded, but well-meaning pirate.

    2. Re:invalidate Photoshop patents, this is prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      first known use of layers with transparency to enhance art ;)

      Valid patents or not, if I want to use a Photoshop technique I'll just pirate Photoshop. Because fuck Adobe. Because fuck software patents. Because fuck IP. Because a no-log VPN is a good deal.

  6. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parts of it look almost like a photograph. Amazing talent.

  7. Painted over his girlfreind by sdguero · · Score: 5, Funny

    with his wife.

  8. Fourth world tech by Circlotron · · Score: 1

    Not a bad effort seeing we have only had electricity here for 30 years.

  9. I like the underportrait better too.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife is a painter and this is just a common artist-thing: they paint so many pieces, they often run out of storage space and/or canvases, and it's really at their whim what unfinished, least-favorite or unsold works get the insult of a painting-over. Amazing job they did identifying the likely pigments and paints used by using the scans of different elements within.

  10. Canvas reuse by manu0601 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is not the first time we discover a hidden painting below a master's piece. Nowadays famous artists were poor when they painted, and canvas reuse was a common practice to save money.

    1. Re:Canvas reuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is also one of the many reasons why it's so important for museums to have the original paintings rather than reproductions.

    2. Re:Canvas reuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reproductions are BS. I don't pay for a museum to see reproductions. No serious museum whatsoever has reproductions, except sometimes copies made by the master himself, or casts of some very precious statue, in which case they typically have the original stored somewhere safe.

  11. YEAH WHATEVER FBI BurEAU HD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When we need our paintings x-rayed we will let you know. Fuck ./ honepot sites.