Slashdot Mirror


Online Fame Distracts 9th-Grader Who Built That Clock Mistaken For A Bomb (washingtonpost.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: This week the Washington Post ran a long profile of Ahmed Mohamed, the 14-year-old boy whose home-made clock got him arrested after school officials and the local police mistook it for a bomb last summer. The Justice Department is currently investigating the incident -- while the school district is suing the Texas attorney general, and the boy's family is suing the school district. But Ahmed has just returned back to Texas, and spoke to the press -- including a local Fox news affiliate which later broadcast a commentary saying his family was obsessed with fame and plotted the arrest.

Over the last year Ahmed's read everything that appeared online about him, but never responds because he doesn't want to give in to anger. The Post writes that while some kids at school called him ISIS Boy, "Sympathetic crowdfunders raised $18,000 for his education. He visited the White House, the Google Science Fair and the president of his home country of Sudan (a wanted war criminal, but Mohamed said it would be rude not to accept the invitation)." Though he'd like to return to the U.S. someday for college, he's been living in Qatar, where a government organization paid for private schooling for him and his sister. But the Post says he still sometimes imagines what his life might've been like if the incident had never happened. "By now he could have invented something new -- not just a clock that only took him a few minutes to put together from parts in his family's garage, which was full of '90s-era electronics from when his uncle ran a chain called Beeper Warehouse."

22 of 319 comments (clear)

  1. He didn't "build" anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    He took a click out of its casing and took it to school at the suggestion of his father, hoping to start a racial incident. They succeeded.

    1. Re:He didn't "build" anything by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So what does a Micronta clock have to do with Heathkit?

      --
      Remember "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters"? Help make it a reality again! http://soylentnews.org
    2. Re:He didn't "build" anything by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      So what does a Micronta clock have to do with Heathkit?

      Uh-oh, somebody's not a real nerd.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    3. Re:He didn't "build" anything by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 4, Informative

      On the contrary, I have built MANY Heathkits, up to and including a 70s era 25" color TV and a "Hero Jr" robot.

      But Heathkit was a separate company, never a Tandy/Radio Shack brand, like Micronta, Radio Shack's kit line were called "ArcherKits", and were nowhere near as nice as Heathkits....

      --
      Remember "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters"? Help make it a reality again! http://soylentnews.org
    4. Re: He didn't "build" anything by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why was this labeled flamebait? It's exactly what happened.

      It is not what happened. What actually happened is a sequence of events that could have happened to any of us when we were kids.

      A 14 year old kid took a clock apart and put it back together. The word "invention" was thrown around (he may or may not have used the word himself; this is unclear), but the kid was absolutely clear about his motives: he wanted to understand how it worked. Many, many Slashdotters can relate to this. This happened to me when I was a kid.

      He was proud of himself and took it to school to show it off to a world which isn't very impressed by such things. He was told to put it away but couldn't help himself. Many, many Slashdotters can relate to this. This happened to me when I was a kid.

      What most Slashdotters can't relate to is having the cops called on you and being the subject of a viral shitstorm for doing this. This did not happen to me when I was a kid. The kid is not an inventor. He might be a genius (his measured IQ may well be in the top 2%), or he might not be. The central point is that he is one of us, and we take care of our own. When normal geek childhood is criminalised, that's news for nerds and stuff that matters.

      There has been a lot of talk (with no actual evidence, I might add) that the kid's father somehow engineered this, or wanted an incident, or to make a point. Even if that were true, the point was indeed made. So many social media commenters (and sadly Slashdot comments have devolved to the level of social media commenters) concentrate on what the kid did wrong, and don't stop to ponder just why it's so easy for incidents like this to happen if your skin has a bit of melanin in it.

      --
      sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
    5. Re:He didn't "build" anything by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The grand juries seem to disagree. How many of these cops have been convicted of manslaughter/murder? I think the unacceptable use of lethal force argument fails the test.

      --
      Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    6. Re:He didn't "build" anything by tsotha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He was most likely put up to it by his activist dad, particularly since he knew exactly what to say to the cops - he told them the truth, but in such a way that they would think he's lying. That's not something you know when you're 14.

    7. Re:He didn't "build" anything by Alypius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      despite mounting video evidence that is almost never the case.

      Citation needed. I'd be willing to bet that the GP was alluding to that Gentle Giant (TM) in Ferguson, where the evidence supported the officer. But hey, let's perpetuate the lie that was "Hands Up, Don't Shoot!"

    8. Re: He didn't "build" anything by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Zimmerman wasn't a cop, racist or not, he was a member of a neighborhood watch, and ultimately, whatever you think about race, he should not have done what he did.

      I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that the physical evidence and witness testimony fully supports his version of the events that transpired. And I don't know about you, but if somebody is slamming my head into pavement, and I had a gun on me, I would have done exactly as he did. Even the witnesses who were in favor of Trayvon Martin made this much clear.

      They could have at least made him stand up in court and assert his affirmative claim of self-defense, but the prosecutor, nope, couldn't manage it.

      You're quite uneducated, to be honest. No prosecutor anywhere ever can make the accused testify in their own defense; that would be a clear violation of the 5th amendment. And you know what? No defendant ever does unless either they're insane or they've literally run out of options. Why? Because the prosecutor will get to cross examine you, and during a cross examination a good prosecutor can make you look guilty of assassinating a pope that is still very much alive. The Zimmerman case was so airtight that they didn't even want to prosecute to begin with, as even the detectives who investigated the case honestly believed it to be justified homicide. There never, at any time, would have been any reason for Zimmerman "stand up" in court.

    9. Re: He didn't "build" anything by cryptizard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is more about it being the rule that when a police officer kills an unarmed black man they are almost never held accountable. That is a rule. You can argue a case here or a case there, but it is literally almost unheard of for a police officer to be fired let alone prosecuted for killing an unarmed black person. Even when they are caught on video using an illegal choke hold against a man who is not resisting, or shoot a guy trying to pull out his wallet after he said "I am about to pull out my wallet."

    10. Re:He didn't "build" anything by ninjaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Steve Wozniak (co-founder of Apple) spent the night in jail when he was high school for doing this kind of thing, and didn't get to meet the president:

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

    11. Re:He didn't "build" anything by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. It was a publicity stunt. It's no different than the Clinton campaign hiring Kahn to speak at their convention and then a few days later the guy decides that he doesn't want all the publicity... after the world learns that he was scamming green cards.

  2. Probably not by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Informative

    By now he could have invented something new

    Probably not.

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    1. Re:Probably not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably not.

      Certainly not. The only reason this boy enjoyed any fame at all is because he simultaneously satisfied several fetishes of the American Left. He was a minority child from a Muslim family who appeared to be interested in a technical or scientific subject. An electronic clock is not the sort of thing that will get you the blue ribbon at your state science fair, but that didn't matter to the politicos. Here was a politically correct family to use as a prop and they took full advantage, although arguably the family tried to take advantage too. Like so many things on the Left it's the appearance, not the merit or lack thereof that matters.

  3. Re:Liberal? by cpotoso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And I bet you are a moron.

  4. Invented? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, This is how bad it has become in the USA? This is considered invented?

    That means the kids that actually learn Arduino programming and make sumo bots are Fucking Alien Technomancer Magicians!

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    1. Re:Invented? by newcastlejon · · Score: 4, Funny

      That means the kids that actually learn Arduino programming and make sumo bots are Fucking Alien Technomancer Magicians!

      You say that as if it were a bad thing.

      --
      If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
    2. Re:Invented? by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 3, Funny

      That means the kids that actually learn Arduino programming and make sumo bots are Fucking Alien Technomancer Magicians!

      You say that as if it were a bad thing.

      His statement is also flawed, he said "Fucking Alien Technomancer Magicians". It stands to reason that any Alien Technomancer Magician who came to visit earth, being essentially an alien nerd, would naturally become a member of the biggest gathering of nerds on the planet earth, i.e.Slashdot and if this Alien Technomancer Magician didn't pass the rigorous admission process all members Slashdot must undergo he would really be a fraud, not a real nerd and certainly not a 'Techno Mancer'. Since it is a well know fact that no Slashdot member, like all nerds throughout the universe, has any kind of a sex life that involves partner these Fucking Alien Technomancer Magicians Lumpy speaks of cannot possibly exist. Now some of you might be tempted to ask: "But what if the species the Alien Technomancer Magician belongs to is asexual?". Asexual species don't really 'fuck' themselves to reproduce since that would involve a partner and an exchange of DNA but they do snog and exchange DNA so even if you define that as 'fucking', this hypothetical Fucking Alien Technomancer Magician would still need a partner which means he could never attain the title Technomancer Magician because in order to attain that title you must be a nerd and as was previously mentioned, it is a well known fact that nowhere in the universe do nerds have sex with partners. Thus it is quite clear that the titles 'fucker" and 'Technomancer Magician" are mutually exclusive.

  5. Re:Not a liberal by Ramze · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A 14 year old knows the difference between building and inventing. Ask any 14 year old who invented the telephone, the car, or the cotton gin. They may not know the correct answers, but they know the meaning. Then, ask them who currently manufactures cars and telephones. Very different answers.

    Your argument would work for a 5 year old, but not a 14 year old. Many 14 year olds are freshmen in high school and should have learned the difference between building and inventing back in elementary school.

    He didn't even make the clock -- he removed it from its housing and placed it into another housing. He made a box for a clock... one he stated he specifically chose to disguise what it was.

    No sane person would believe his story that he invented a clock and wanted to show it off to his teacher at school -- no, he pulled a clock out of its housing, hid it inside another housing on purpose to disguise it, and then showed it to kids knowing they'd think it could be a bomb. 14 year olds aren't innocent 'lil ignorant angels that don't know what words mean. They have sex, do drugs, lie their asses off to their parents and elders, sneak out of their houses at night, and yes -- make fake bombs for attention. Not ALL of them, obviously, but yeah... he's 2 years shy of driving and holding down a part-time job in most states, not a baby to be coddled and forgiven for doing something he damned well knew was stupid and made up lies to cover it up.

  6. Re:Lots of flack for being called an "inventor"... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While repackaging a digital clock may not appear to take much in the way of technical skill to the minds of most of the highly technologically literate folks here at slashdot, truthfully even that is still something that most people would not necessarily think of ever trying to build, or at least not without following some instructions.

    Yep, most people would not think to repackage a clock because it ALREADY CAME IN A PERFECTLY GOOD CASE. There is no invention here, unless you want to claim that choosing to paint your room a different color, or changing the screen door on your home is invention.

    --
    Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
  7. Re:Not a liberal by argumentsockpuppet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't have put it that way, but you have a valid point. This is a kid who didn't do anything actually dangerous and was taken from a school in handcuffs. It was made worse because it's apparent it wouldn't haven't have happened if his skin had been light enough.

    There seem to be a lot of comments talking about the will or intent of the kid, but honestly it shouldn't matter. We put our children in a government mandated situation where we have to trust the institution with rights otherwise reserved to parent. We expect, and have every right to expect, the institution to handle discipline with consistency and good judgement. It's absolutely justified that we should react with outrage when they fail to do it in such a spectacular fashion. Don't forget this kid was pressured by authorities to sign something admitting to something he didn't do without parental or legal defense.

    I don't care what the kid did, kids do stupid stuff sometimes. I don't care what his parents did because having stupid parents shouldn't be an excuse to abuse kids. What I do care about is how the authorities put in charge of our children behave and in this case it was objectively terrible.

    That's going to happen. Kids are going to do stupid stuff. Parents are going to do stupid stuff. Authorities are going to react badly. You can't and shouldn't expect to be able to prevent every kid from ever doing something stupid. You can only do so much to prevent parents from being stupid. What we can and must do is prevent authorities from doing stupid stuff, particularly those who are given the authority of force.

  8. Leave the damned kid alone, go after the father by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ahmed is a genuine nerd, just as I was at his age. When I assembled and installed alarm systems from salvaged alarm parts I stated clearly and honestly that I had "built" them. To an electronics beginner even taking something apart and re-presenting it in a novel way gives great satisfaction. There is nothing fake-ass about any of it. It saddens me to read all these arbitrarily constructed harsh judgements here, which NONE of you would ever apply to your OWN children. At that age you have to compare the desire to handle and understand electronics to the act of doing nothing at all, watching television, or tunelessly strumming a guitar imagining you're a few songs away from screaming fame.

    The totality of the response by the school was a surprise to the boy... who may have been aware that his project might stir some suspicion but the boy also honestly believed he could 'diffuse' such concerns with the power of his own words, and the simple fact that the truth was on his side. It was a small thing, and (maybe) fun to give a little push back to any alarm. The fact that his science teacher had seen and approved of the project underscores this.

    Ahmed's father was another story. There was certainly a gleam in his eye as he participated in the project, knowing of the unique social forces and ugly escalating institutional response that was possible. Ahmed needs to come to the firm conclusion that his own father is an asshole. Please do not judge the kid for his father being an asshole.

    If his father has not apologized to him at least privately, his father is a flaming asshole.
    And some of the responses in this thread indicate the presence of flaming assholes as well.

    --
    <blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>