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Being Lazy Is a Sign of High Intelligence, Study Suggests (independent.co.uk)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Independent: Findings from a U.S.-based study seem to support the idea that people with a high IQ get bored less easily, leading them to spend more time engaged in thought. And active people may be more physical as they need to stimulate their minds with external activities, either to escape their thoughts or because they get bored quickly. Researchers from the Florida Gulf Coast University gave a classic test -- dating back three decades -- to a group of students. The 'need for cognition' questionnaire asked participants to rate how strongly they agree with statements such as "I really enjoy a task that involves coming up with new solutions to problems," and "I only think as hard as I have to." The researchers, led by Todd McElroy, then selected 30 'thinkers' and 30 'non-thinkers' from the pool of candidates. Over the next seven days both groups wore a device on their wrist which tracked their movements and activity levels, providing a constant stream of data on how physically active they were. Results showed the thinking group were far less active during the week than the non-thinkers. "Ultimately, an important factor that may help more thoughtful individuals combat their lower average activity levels is awareness," said McElroy, according to The British Psychological Society. "Awareness of their tendency to be less active, coupled with an awareness of the cost associated with inactivity, more thoughtful people may then choose to become more active throughout the day."

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  1. was going to post earlier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    but did'n feel like doing it

  2. As Calvin once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    As Calvin once said, "You know how Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well mine are even worse!"

    1. Re:As Calvin once said by zifn4b · · Score: 5, Informative

      As Calvin once said, "You know how Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well mine are even worse!"

      This is of course quite amusing as I'm sure you are referring to the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes. But did you know said comic strip is a satire around two characters that represent two prominent historical figures with two very different philosophical points of view:

      John Calvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Thomas Hobbes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      If you read into their differences of opinions on many things related to society, you'll find relevance to this topic. We can't really understand why our society and culture values things and whether those things are appropriate today or ever even were rational to begin with if we don't understand the roots of where that thinking came from. The comic strip of course is more digestible in popular culture instead of having read comparably dry historical text but understanding the true historical context is very important especially as we evolve our values and ideas forward into the future.

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  3. I can buy that by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First time I have to do something I do it.
    Second time I think of how to automate it
    Third time I test my script
    Fourth time I refine my script
    Fifth time I run my script and go back to whatever I was doing.

    1. Re:I can buy that by bain_online · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just hire bright people to write my scripts :p

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    2. Re:I can buy that by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Funny

      And all I have a copy of this on our team server's home page, darn.

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  4. obvious conclusion by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Being lazy is a sign of high intelligence" -- I knew it, this means I must be an underappreciated super-genius!

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  5. "lazy" !? by sittingnut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    being physically inactive and being lazy are two different things.

    one can be physically inactive, or less active, while doing a lot and expending lots of energy, through metal activity and stationary activity.
    any one who codes, or writes papers/books, designs stuff, or paints pictures, etc, or even watch and read thought provoking books/plays/movies know that such things can take a lot out of one.

    may be only people who do nothing of the kind, and write absurd careless/thoughtless summaries here, that are full of silly errors and duplicates, mistake all that for 'laziness'

  6. commentsubjectsaredumb by Falos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh God that headline. C'mon guys. C'mon.

    But sure, there's going to be some kinds of correlation. When you "Work smarter, not harder" the obvious interpretation is that you don't work needlessly hard (lazy) because you were smart (intelligent) about the situation.

    Being "intelligent" is naturally going to trend towards optimized points on diminishing return curves. For an easy example and the obligatory car analogy, you might be "lazy" about where you buy your gasoline. The curve will shift if the price gaps become too punishing and demand more scrutiny, but otherwise you have bigger concerns than the tiny (after travel losses) savings gained from using the station across town. Conversely, the curve will shift the other way if the gaps become zero, or if the sheer scale drops (eg we're talking $0.12/gal vs $0.18/gal) so it's now too many orders of magnitude away from your income context (presumably) that giving it attention is a waste of your brain's fucks. You give it zero fucks. You don't even look at the price. You're "lazy".

    That's probably a measure of intelligence right there. You can quickly ballpark how many orders of magnitude is too far away to warrant fucks. To wit, you sense where increased effort only gains diminishing yields, and get lazy. Or smart. Or both.

  7. Yay! by MouseR · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's actually a very

  8. It isn't laziness by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not lazy, I'm efficient. That it takes me less time to do the job, so I have more time to goof off doesn't mean I'm lazy. I'm just more efficient.

    1. Re:It isn't laziness by Ryanrule · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, pay me more.

  9. Why the shit is this shit here? It's not science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They never tested IQ, and IQ is not intelligence. They passed out a questionnaire where people self selected with bullshit questions, then tracked them for a single week.

    To put it another way, this is like sorting fruit salad into grape and kumquats by shaking the bowl so the small ones end up on the bottom and so everything on top is a kumquat, everything else is a grape, without even checking that the fruit salad was in fact made with blueberries, pineapple, strawberries, and tomatoes(technically a fruit).

    This is shit science I would chew out a fifth grader for it, because they failed to determine if the factor they were testing was present, and used a shit sorting method. A questionnaire with questions like that isn't going to get you any useful results unless you're testing self perceptions of inteligence related to something(to which I'd argue that this study proves that lazy gits think their smart to excuse their laziness, which is just as valid as their conclusions).

    Where the hell do these people get the idea that it's alright to call this shit science? A first year student of any science other than social or political would be able to see what they've fucked up, and I've only excluded those two because they generally work with questionnaires and so might assume a competent questionnaire was created, which I highly doubt due to the absolute shit example questions. Mien Gott.

  10. BAM! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    See, honey? I been telling you. I'm not napping, I'm contemplating.

    As Bertrand Russell said,

    “I want to say, in all seriousness, that a great deal of harm is being done in the modern world by belief in the virtuousness of work, and that the road to happiness and prosperity lies in an organized diminution of work.”

    Now can I please order No Man's Sky?

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  11. xkcd is funny but does not always present reality by aepervius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Think about it, our modern world mostly exists because of the huge automation processes going on.

    I concur with the GP, if a problem is being repeated, then I seek solution on how to automate it. Over the year i automated a lot of stuff from testing, to revenue accounting. I also learned to always foresee additional cost equal to the initial development, over the next ten year, as debugging or maintenance, and when somebody ask me to automate stuff I ask them to sign it off with the knowledge and understanding of that maintenance cost.

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  12. Do thinkers have less active jobs? by Tomahawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Over the next seven days ...wore a device on their wrist... the thinking group were far less active during the week than the non-thinkers"

    It doesn't mention if these people had a week off work, or if they had to work normally during those hours. So one wonders if there is a correlation here between "thinking people" having desk job, and "non-thinking people" having more active jobs, like pizza delivery -- was the job they do taken into account in the study?

    I know after a day working out problems and stretching my mind, when I get home I just want to sit and unwind. About the most active thing I would do is walk the dog. So I can understand why thinking people may be lazier, to some respect (at least to _my_ respect), but I know a lot of intelligent "thinking people" who would be quite active, which would go against the reported findings of this study.

    Without access to the paper itself I can't answer these for myself.

  13. Da Vinci's opinion on geniuses and work by twosat · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Men of lofty genius when they are doing the least work are most active." - Leonardo da Vinci

  14. Re:OR (exclusive) by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps the typical Fat Dumb American are actually intelegent people who cannot find work to match their potential.
    This isn't other similar research correlating intelligence with other related issues.
    Such as intelegent people tend to get paid less than people with lower intelligence. Or People with higher IQ may get caught up in drug addiction.

    I think in part much of American values are built on the concept of hard work and not on smart work.
    If I am smarter than the next guy and gave a task to do I may get it done in half the time and go home early while the guy who is having a harder time is putting in overtime. Thus he is getting paid more for doing more work however the outcome is the same.

    Then we also get the smart guy questioning authority. So the boss will say "Do it this way." While you may think of a better way and the boss doesn't like watching you not following his direction.

    Now all this goes down to a link in America correlating obesity with income. So this with other research such as this one helps paint a better picture of the complex issue that we face. Not the simplified tweet or a snarky comic of a fat guy in a wheelchairs with flags and gun going 'Merica!
     

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  15. Re:OR (exclusive) by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Funny

    My brother-in-law must be a freaking genius then, he's the only person I've ever met who has moss growing on one side.

  16. How lazy was the grad student who came up with it. by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can really imagine the conversation that led to this research question.

    "So you're too lazy to come up with a research topic?"

    "Yes."

    "That's not very smart."

    "... I beg to differ."

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  17. Re:These studies, Jesus... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    This looks more like the people who *think* they are intelligent are lazy.

    It is not just about being lazy, but about what you do with your laziness. The most intelligent goof off by posting on Slashdot.

    Physical activity is good for both the body and mind.

    TFA is using "lazy" to mean lack of physical activity. So if I pull an all-nighter and write 1000 lines of code, I am lazy. If I go for a walk instead, then I am not lazy.

  18. Re:These studies, Jesus... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you pull an all-nighter and write 1000 lines of code, then you're likely in violation of the "I only think as hard as I have to" part.

    If, on the other hand, you spent your time daydreaming, a light bulb came on while you were taking a shower, and the net result is 20 minutes of work and 30 lines of brilliant code, then you qualify.

    But management will ding you, because while you're supposed to work smarter and not harder, if they don't see you "working", then you're "obviously" not being "productive". So keep doing those all-nighters and job security will be yours. Maybe.

  19. Re:These studies, Jesus... by diesalesmandie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This looks more like the people who *think* they are intelligent are lazy.

    It is not just about being lazy, but about what you do with your laziness. The most intelligent goof off by posting on Slashdot.

    You fall into the category of people who think they are intelligent; some of the most intelligent may goof off on Slashdot whereas others don't. But I'll tell you one thing they don't do - make categorical statements about subjective concepts.

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