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Driver Killed a Pedestrian in Japan While Playing Pokemon Go (fortune.com)

An anonymous reader writes: One woman was killed and another injured. In what police are calling Japan's first death linked to Pokemon Go, a driver playing the smartphone game hit two pedestrians on Tuesday night, officials said. The collision broke the neck of one woman, killing her, and left another woman with a broken hip, the Wall Street Journal reports. Police in Tokushima, on the western Japanese island of Shikoku, told the Wall Street Journal the women were crossing the street when the car struck them. The man driving the car did not see them because was playing Pokemon Go.

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  1. You've captured Manslaughter! by tekrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Achievement level unlocked!

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    1. Re:You've captured Manslaughter! by Panoptes · · Score: 3, Funny

      'It's Niantic's fault! Lets sue the carp out of them!' Sounds fishy to me.

  2. Don't blame Pokemon GO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blame the subclass of humanity that finds it acceptable to operate their devices while driving.

    1. Re:Don't blame Pokemon GO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Exactly.

      While I can understand how someone can be stupid enough to think answering a phone call or reading a sms quickly isn't that dangerous, I can't fathom how someone can think there's no issue playing a fricking game while driving.

      Until people caught operating a phone while driving aren't fined significantly (proportionally to income is a good idea) and get their license removed, death will continue to happen.

  3. What has Pokemon Go really go to do with this? by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The headline should really be "Unsafe driver kills pedestrian". If it wasn't Pokemon Go, it would have been texting or some other action that caused this muppet to kill someone.

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    1. Re:What has Pokemon Go really go to do with this? by Maritz · · Score: 2

      Yeah. If he drives playing Pokemon Go he drives doing all sorts of shit on that phone.

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    2. Re:What has Pokemon Go really go to do with this? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Talking on the phone, Texting on the Phone, Playing a Game on the Phone, Eating your breakfast, Fiddling trying to read a map, punching in an address in a GPS, yelling at your kids..... All of this falls under distracted driving.

      There is only so much we can do to stop stupid. As stupid people are often ingenious in finding new ways to be stupid.

      The solution for distracted driving is getting rid of drivers. Self Driving Cars, Accessible Public Transit systems. Heck I would love it if there was a flatbed train along the interstate where you can park your car on it. And take the train the next 50 miles.

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  4. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop contradicting yourself!

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  5. Re:Thats it? by thewolfkin · · Score: 2

    [This incident] means overall [Pokemon Go is] probably responsible for a huge reduction in fatalities!

    You would need to have a control activity that also requires movement and shows a substantially larger among of "attributed death"* to make that claim.

    * - again just to clarify the tldr doens't say the death is attributed to PoGo just linked to it. The driver said that but he's hardly a valuable source.

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  6. Re:empty lives? by thewolfkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are people's lives so bloody empty that they need to play with a phone all the time? What the hell is wrong with them?

    It's not about empty lives, it's about addictive games. Games even ones as insipidly simple as PoGo can tap into your Skinner box tendancies. It's less about the rest of your life being fulfilling than about an individual having self control.

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  7. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or they could be smart and lock out users when they're moving so fast they're obviously not on foot. I feel bad for Nintendo, their stock already fell when people realized they didn't make the game, but they're going to be facing lawsuits as the distributor. Pokemon Go is not going to work out well for them at all.

    They added that feature a while back. You have to tap a button saying that you're a passenger and not the driver if the app detects that you're moving faster than walking speed. There's also a bunch of warnings that the game rotates through when you start it up including, "Don't drive while playing Pokemon Go", "Don't trespass while playing Pokemon Go", "Don't go into dangerous areas while playing Pokemon Go", etc.

  8. There are two warnings in the app about this. by subanark · · Score: 2

    One of the random notifications when the app starts up is "Don't drive while playing Pokemon Go" (of which there are around 5 total possible notifications).

    The other, is if you are moving fast the game tells you not to drive while playing, and prompts you to confirm you are a passenger.

    Personally, I think the app should be fully disabled while moving fast passenger or not.

    1. Re:There are two warnings in the app about this. by Wargames · · Score: 2

      Why do you think that a passenger should not be allowed to play a game?

      While the startup notifications are annoying and condescending, the alerts that popup when you are moving faster than say 15 mph (which is easy to achieve on a bycicle) are condescending, annoying, and require a response which is distracting. I think it would be horribly and terribly ironic if the idiot who was driving while playing was pressing the "i am a passenger" button at the time of impact.

      Other apps, eg. Waze do this too. I think the app cannot make the judgement of whether it is safe for me to use. I do not think it should be a function of an application to keep you from doing stupid stuff, nor should the app go out of it's way to make you do stupid stuff (posit a malicious map or game app that purposely puts you in dangerous positions, eg, if pokeman put a Meow Two in the middle of a cloverleaf). An app should be neutral and the app should focus on providing entertainment or information, or whatever it is designed to do. For example, reading The Bible might be good for your soul but there doesn't need to be a disclaimer on the cover 'Please do not read books while operating a motor vehicle'. I think "thou shalt not kill" is universally applicable, perhaps just not taken to heart enough until sad events like this take place.

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  9. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    "Don't be an idiot while playing Pokemon Go".

    It already does this. If you travel above a certain speed the app warns you not to play while driving.

  10. Legal services as in-app purchase by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Press here to buy two hours of legal consultation after killing someone playing this game.

  11. Re:Darwinism by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is it Darwinism? It was innocent pedestrians that were killed/injured.

    Darwinism would be if the driver died.

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  12. WTF? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or they could be smart and lock out users when they're moving so fast they're obviously not on foot.

    If I proposed an idea that's wrong more than half the time, the last thing I'd expect anyone to call me, is "smart." That simply isn't the right word for this idea.

    Fast movement doesn't imply driving. I'll grant that if you can determine the vehicle is a bicycle or motorcycle, chances are over 50% that the driver is playing. (Motorcycle passengers are unlikely to have free hands.) But if it's basically any other type of vehicle (or if no vehicle is involved at all), you're throwing babies out more often than you're throwing out bathwater! Why would you use a word like "smart" for this?!?

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  13. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can also get it to pop up merely by switching to something else so Pokemon Go is in the background, continue walking, and then switch back to the game so that when it updates your new position it decides you've moved from the old position instantly. The great thing is that once you've dismissed the popup once, I don't think it comes up again in the same session, so if it triggers while walking to your car (since it can easily trigger when you leave a building and the GPS accuracy is just bad so you're bouncing all over the place) it won't trigger while you're driving.

    Other people say "don't blame the game, blame the driver" but I disagree. Niantic has created a game where playing it while moving quickly is an advantage. You can hit more "pokestops" faster, collect more items, and go through more potential Pokemon spawns by playing in a car. Sure, you can argue that's fine if you're a passenger, but what they should have done is make it so that moving "quickly" like that DOESN'T give you an advantage. Make it so that the best way to play is by walking, not driving.

    But Ingress has the same problem, so I'm not surprised Pokemon Go does too. It's even worse in Ingress - the best way to collect what's basically "fuel" that powers every action you take is by driving, since it tends to collect along roads for some reason, and you can still hit portals to get items as long as you don't break 35 MPH.

  14. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or they could be smart and lock out users when they're moving so fast they're obviously not on foot.

    Well, it does throw up messages if you're moving too fast, but if you cut it off completely, they passengers couldn't play, which wouldn't be nice, especially if you have a car load of kids playing. It keeps them busy, you know.

    But really there are ALREADY laws on the books against DISTRACTED DRIVING.....how is this any different?

    Those laws are quite broad enough..and if you get caught doing so, then they should rip your license up in front of you, and point you towards the nearest tricycle shop, or bus pass station.

    But for heaven's sakes, we don't need more laws, etc.

    And no, Nintento should not be liable for individual stupidity.

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  15. What a lame alternate universe you picked by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

    Maybe he isn't into texting and other shit, and in an alternate universe without Pokemon Go he would be paying attention to the road while driving?

    If we're going into alternate universes, then I like this one the best: someone else struck the pedestrian, and he was playing an ambulance game where you drive to injured people and give them medical attention. In that universe, playing the game while driving caused him to save a life!

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  16. Re:Easy solution by lgw · · Score: 2

    solution to this obviously fast-growing problem

    Deaths have growth from 0 to 1! That's infinity %! We're all dead tomorrow!

    t would likely be a lot more enjoyable for the drivers too who don't have to put up with spaced-out passengers...

    Never been on a long trip with kids in the car, I see.

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  17. Fine them?!?! by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

    Fine them and remove their licence? Seriously? They killed someone and it looks like they did it in a way that was entirely avoidable with no mitigating factors. This should be tried as whatever form of manslaughter/murder in the local laws represents causing death through gross negligence.

    At a minimum, people like this should be locked up on public safety grounds, and should be prohibited indefinitely from controlling any vehicle if and when they are released until they can show that they are now safe and responsible.

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  18. Re:They apparently need to add another pop up by Atryn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I disagree entirely. Ingress is much BETTER than Pokemon Go in this respect. In Ingress, things don't move or disappear. If you see something on your scanner, you can pull off the road, park, deal with it, etc. If you miss it you can turn around and drive back and it will still be there. Pokemon, on the other hand, appear and disappear in completely random places with no predictability. This leads to much more sudden actions by the player and pressure to respond. This makes it much MORE dangerous, IMHO.

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  19. Re:Darwinism by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    The person didn't get out of the way of the vehicle.

    Didn't need to. It's Japan. You're not allowed to run over a pedestrian for any reason.

    You're also not allowed to get that pedestrian wet if driving along side them. Only in the USA do you breed a culture of bigger = better so fuck everything else.