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Robot Babies Not Effective Birth Control, Australian Study Finds (sky.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Girls given imitation babies to look after in an effort to deter teenage pregnancy could actually be more likely to get pregnant, according to a study. Researchers in Australia found 8% of girls who used the dolls were expecting by the age of 20, compared with 4% of those who did not. The number of girls having at least one abortion was also higher among girls given the dolls: 9% compared to 6%. 'Baby Think It Over' dolls were used in a Virtual Infant Parenting (VIP) programme which began in 57 schools in Western Australia in 2003. During the three-year study, published in The Lancet, 1267 girls aged 13 to 15 used the simulators -- which need to be fed and changed, while 1567 learned the normal health curriculum. The idea originated in the United States and is used in 89 countries. Researchers from the Telethon Kids Institute in Western Australia are now warning that such programmes may be a waste of public money.

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  1. Very effective by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find robots very effective at birth control. I've not managed to get one pregnant yet.

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  2. No, but... by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be nice if the conservatives started admitting that birth control is effective birth control.

    1. Re:No, but... by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would be nice if the conservatives started admitting that birth control is effective birth control.

      That will never happen: for too many of them, birth control is merely an excuse for their real motive: control of the bodies of young people. The real goal is not to prevent birth, but to prevent sex taking place.

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    2. Re:No, but... by lgw · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Oh, the GOP today is a lost cause. I expect them to go the way of the Whigs at this point. BTW, if you don't know Chester Arthur, read up on him - best president since Lincoln IMO. If Trump had a VP pick like Arthur, I'd vote for him (given Trump would almost certainly be assassinated like Garfield was, and for the same reasons).

      Believe what you want about Planned Parenthood, I'm not going to argue about it, but if you haven't watched the undercover video interviews about them harvesting fetus organs for quite a hefty profit on the side, you really should - it wasn't an isolated incident. Surely a different organization could provide these services.

      And don't try to present bizarre Christian cults as mainstream, unless you're consistent and also claim that all Muslims support terrorism. Any large movement will have its fringe, and that doesn't represent the mainstream (well, except PETA, they're fucked up).

      freaks out over birth control being provided for by health insurance,

      BTW, I've never met a conservative who would stand by that. What they take offense at is business owners who object to it on religious grounds being forced to provide such. The state compelling you to take action against your moral principles (not merely refrain from action) crosses a line we should care about regardless of the issues, or at least those few Americans who still believe in limited government should care.

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  3. Insufficiently Realistic by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until the dolls literally spray genuine, authentic baby shit and vomit on you in the middle of the night, they are going to be inadequate to the task of dissuading girls from wanting to make babies.

    If you can't actually fill them with a truly realistic substitute for unwanted infant fluids, they're worthless.

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  4. Re:social experiments by npslider · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Schools should stick to Reading, Writing and Math, and drop the stupid social experiments that usually cause more problems than they solve.

    If we do that, where else can we attain such valuable data that benefits society?

  5. You know what would have been cheaper? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not to mention more efficient?

    Handing out condoms and showing how to use them.

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  6. Re:social experiments by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a centrist. I believe in birth control and sex ed for all children.

    However, before today's results, I would have thought the robot baby IN ADDITION to sex ed and teaching about birth control was a good idea. I've not read the nitty-gritty of Australia's tests. (Are the robot baby girls getting less Sex Ed teaching) so I won't rule out Robot Babies as a viable option- it certainly shouldn't replace learning.

    I'd be interested in knowing WHY the robot babies failed. Do the girls consider the experience "not that bad". Do they think "I've done it with a robot, I can handle my own child". Or is it simply that they didn't receive as good sex ed teaching as the control group?

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  7. Re:social experiments by Dread_ed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds plausible doesn't it? Show the young lady exactly what it is like to have a child, but without them having one. That should scare them into not wanting children, right?

    However, when I read about this I thought "Aren't they risking priming and further activating all of the reproductive programming that women (and men) are subject to at that age?" I mean really, haven't we noticed yet that reproduction is a dirty trick that our biology plays on us? The drive to procreate is definitely not rational, in light of population pressure, economic well being, and lost opportunities swallowed up in the time it takes to raise young. But in spite of this it persists at a rate that is greater than necessary to sustain the species. What does that tell you? It tells me that reproductive motivations have root access to the wetware OS and are using that access to control the system subtly and pervasively.

    Personally, I am surprised it isn't more effective at driving up pregnancy rates than it is.

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  8. (At least) Two mistakes made: by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) Expecting young humans to be rational
    2) Expecting humans of any age to be rational about one of the most powerful hardwired instincts: reproduction.

    Girls that are going to give in to their hormone-driven instincts are going to do so no matter what you do, unless you physically or medically restrain them somehow. Giving girls in that category babydolls like they did just 'trains' them to take care of the infants they'll eventually have too soon anyway, it doesn't deter them; more likely it just softens the impact of the reality of having a child to take care of.

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  9. Re: social experiments by easyTree · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Schools should stick to Reading, Writing and Math, and drop the stupid social experiments that usually cause more problems than they solve.

    That's unfair, the underage pregnancy problem apparently existed already whereas the some-company-doesn't-have-lots-of-public-sector-cash has likely been fixed.
    Potentially, various other corollary issues involving politicians lacking holiday homes have been at least partially remedied.

  10. Re:Why is teen pregnancy bad exactly? by jeff4747 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Cause in modern society children are much, much, much, much better off if they are born to parents that have built up some emotional, personal and financial stability.

    When we were evolving, that was not the case - your stability mostly came from living within a small tribe that helped you when you needed it. Far more critical back then was for the mother to be healthy enough and fast-healing enough to handle a pregnancy.

    Now we have modern medicine to take care of the "need to be healthy" part, but we no longer have the tribe to help take care of you and your new family. So now the outcome is better if the parents are older.

  11. Re:Teenagers are idiots. by Cederic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    anything else that qualifies them to be parents

    Not strictly true. They have young healthy fertile bodies.

    Historically that's counted for far more than wisdom, common sense or other skills.