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Recent College Grads Aim To Land A Robot On The Moon (thehindu.com)
Sunday the Indian Space Research Organization successfully test-launched a scramjet rocket, propelled by "an air-breathing propulsion system which uses hydrogen as fuel and oxygen from the atmosphere air as the oxidizer" rather than carrying a tank of liquid oxygen. "if the need for liquid oxygen is taken away, the space craft can be much lighter, hence cheaper to launch," notes one newspaper, adding that India is only the fourth country to flight-test a scramjet engine after the U.S., Russia and the European Space Agency.
But in addition, 15 former ISRO scientists are now helping Team Indus, one of the 16 teams remaining in Google's $30 million Lunar XPRIZE competition, who will use ISRO's polar satellite launch vehicle to send their spacecraft to the moon. GillBates0 writes: An official designated as "Skywalker", said that such space missions used to be limited to extremely elite people and PhDs in the past. That stereotype is now breaking. "I was just a college student a couple of years ago and now I am working on an actual space mission, how cool is that," said Karan Vaish, 23, who is helping the team to design the lunar rover. Eighty per cent of the team is reported to be less than five years out of college.
But in addition, 15 former ISRO scientists are now helping Team Indus, one of the 16 teams remaining in Google's $30 million Lunar XPRIZE competition, who will use ISRO's polar satellite launch vehicle to send their spacecraft to the moon. GillBates0 writes: An official designated as "Skywalker", said that such space missions used to be limited to extremely elite people and PhDs in the past. That stereotype is now breaking. "I was just a college student a couple of years ago and now I am working on an actual space mission, how cool is that," said Karan Vaish, 23, who is helping the team to design the lunar rover. Eighty per cent of the team is reported to be less than five years out of college.
What's next? Are they gonna try to put a robot on Mars?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
someone needa to pick up the torch from nasa some day.
I'm waiting until the technology and costs become such that it could be assigned as a college class project. Students would love that.
I called it a mighty Sperm Whale, she called it Finding Nemo.
if the need for liquid oxygen is taken away, you need to stay in the lower atmosphere longer requiring more heat shielding.
Well, as somebody who never graduated High School, I intend to send a rocket to land on the sun, with no more sacrifice than a cup of coffee a day.
There are actually FIVE countries that have successfully tested scramjets in flight - the list should include Australia. What is more, the Australian project (HySHot run from the University of Queensland) was the FIRST successful scramjet flight (in July 2002).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyShot
at the Interplanetary Masala Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwcHw3icPs
I just do not see why people keep trying to eliminate the weight of oxidizer and propellent. IE scram jets or space elevators when the cost of propellants is so small. The propellent cost for a Falcon 9 launch is only $250,000. The Falcon 9 can put 50,000 lbs of cargo in low earth orbit that's just $5 per pound for propellent. Propellent does not matter. What matters is the cost of the vehicle. We need 100% spacecraft reusability for 1,000's of launches to get the cost of space travel down. Space X is working towards that goal. The current engines that use Kerosene will wear out rather quickly because the engines need to run with excess oxidizer to prevent them from being fouled by carbon build up. The oxidizer causes the engine to rust out(titanium rust). The new Space X engine uses liquid methane fuel. It can be run with a more perfect oxidizer/ fuel ratio and eliminate the corrosion problem so much longer life.
was about to post the same thing!
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This year NASAs budget is over 18 billion.
It has never dropped below 15 billion a year since 2004, or below 12 billion since 1990.
NASA dont currently have any launch capability of their own.
And yet, the amount NASA spend on actualy space exploration has continuously dropped over that time.
The amount they spend on pork barrel politics and massive internal management/oversight structures has
however continued to grow.
THIS is the problem with NASA - the ratio of funding to achievement has been in a continuous downward
spiral, however most people who want them to succeed cannot think past 'more money for NASA' and
realise that the #1 problem is their collapsing internal structure, not funding.
NASA needs to get back to their mission, the development, delivery, and operation of space research platforms.
I know thats very unpopular, especially by the flag wavers, but a strong NASA is one that is mission focused,
not downing in its own politics and bureaucracy.
"I was just a college student a couple of years ago and now I am working on an actual space mission, how cool is that," said Karan Vaish, 23, who is helping the team to design the lunar rover.
Pffft. I designed a lunar rover when I was 8 years old. And a spaceship for traveling to distant galaxies.
*Bang* *Zip* To the Moon! Which show you know this reference from may indicate how old you are, or how much classic TV you were exposed to as a child.
"I was just a college student a couple of years ago and now I am working on an actual space mission, how cool is that," said Karan Vaish, 23, who is helping the team to design the lunar rover.
Neil Armstrong was 38 when he walked on the Moon, 24 years before you were born -- after being a Navy pilot, graduating from Purdue, being a test pilot and being in the astronaut program for 11 years. You graduated from school and are playing with robots. Granted, they're "space robots" and that is pretty cool, but keep a little perspective.
That aside. Why is it news that younger people work on things too? Someone has to take over and do things. Young graduates with excellent training and skills seems appropriately normal. Hopefully the youngsters will learn from both the achievements and mistakes of their predecessors - you know, all the older folks that did it first.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Australia? Aren't we the little country next to Switzerland? That would make us ESA wouldn't it?
Quoting from Apollo 40 years on:
The young minds (the average age of Apollo 11's mission control team was 28) who were put to work on Apollo were all recent graduates who had benefited from former president Eisenhower's National Defence Education Act, a massive capital investment in the US education system, started in the late 50s in response to Sputnik.
Engineering is a marvelous field of study, but history should be included as well. -PCP
If these kinds of projects become more common, is there a risk that desirable landing zones on the moon will become junkyards of project flights and expired landers and rovers?
I'm guessing not, since the moon is about Asia's size in terms of surface area. But maybe due to all kinds of reasons some zone on the moon is easier to hit or more desirable to land on, actually making it something of a problem.
Good you cleared that up. We might have thought they were referring to the one on the G string.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Mind blown. The AC is right!
yes, we are, and we also work with the russians. plus, the first terminator was made of styrian oak.