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No Coding in Palo Alto? City Takes On Silicon Valley Growth (siliconbeat.com)

An anonymous reader writes:The birthplace of Hewlett Packard and Xerox Parc and founding place of Facebook is now considering whether to enforce a zoning regulation banning firms whose "primary business is research and development, including software coding," according to the New York Times. As the Times wrote, "To repeat: The mayor is considering enforcing a ban on coding at ground zero of Silicon Valley." Palo Alto Mayor Patrick Burt told the Times: Big tech companies are choking off the downtown. It's not healthy. Palo Alto is a software capital. It has also become a company town, with Palantir Technologies renting 20 downtown buildings, as Marisa Kendall wrote. Other notable tech firms there include Tesla, SAP, Flipboard, VMWare and many others. It has become a center for automation and cars and is home to Ford's research and development center.

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  1. Gotta love America by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now can we start tearing down research labs to build more NFL stadia...at the taxpayers' expense, of course.

  2. Re:Why would you want tech companies in the downto by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Downtown in most cities is where businesses are. Wall street is downtown. The US Capital is downtown. Detroit used to have factories downtown. Downtown isn't the shopping district, except where all the businesses left and they made it a shopping district to save it from abandonment.

  3. Does Zoning Abrogate First Amendment? by 31415926535897 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is what I've never quite understood: why does it seem that zoning laws are allowed to ignore constitutional freedoms? Banning research and development, "including software coding" would seem to ignore the right to free speech, free assembly and the right to privacy (if it's my property and I'm not doing anything dangerous toward my neighbors, why does the city care what I'm doing inside?)

    Look, I understand that we don't want coal factories building next to residences. That all makes sense to me, and I could see an argument that this doesn't restrict constitutional freedom. But where does a city get off telling a person they can't run a business (e.g. sole proprietorship) out of their home?

    So while I'm afraid that Palo Alto could follow through on this threat, it boggles the mind how it could in the USA. I also think it would be royally dumb for them to kick out all of these businesses too, but that's a different discussion.

  4. As an actual Palo Alto resident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The issue is that:
    1) There isn't sufficient money to pay for decent transit.
    The county pays for BART to go to San Jose, but isn't doing shit for any of the peninsula cities transit issues.
    2) Corporations have been converting retail space (i.e. stuff that actually serves residents) into office space with ~10x the density.
    This screws residents.
    3) Because of the lack of decent transit, increasing density isn't possible without *severe* impacts to traffic.
    And yes, it already takes 15+ minutes to go about two miles on a number of arterial roads.
    The traffic is REALLY FRACKING BAD.

    So, if you're crying about NIMBYs, shut the eff up, and look at the fact that there are *real* problems here that density cannot solve until the infrastruture to support that density arrives.

    I'd rather have cheap housing with increased density. Since that cannot happen reasonably right now, I'd like for the retail -> office space conversions to stop.

  5. Re:Lol by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do they really think their downtown will improve by kicking all the jobs out of it?

    It's time to make Silicon Valley a Silicon Desert.

    Look at the City of San Francisco. They want all the tech companies to come in, giving lots of tax breaks and other incentives so they can pride themselves on having all this innovation. But then they complain about all the tech workers coming in and living in the city. Then they complain about buses picking up workers. Did you ever hear a greenie complain about people using a bus? Well, go to SF.

    Palo Alto is doing the same thing now. They want all the tech money, but not the tech companies. And watch them whining when large companies decide to move out.

    Just imagine Cisco, Google, Facebook and Apple deciding to move out of the area completely, with all their workers. Imagine how many mortgages will be under water, how many folks will lose their jobs, how many tax revenue these cities will have to do without.

    Palo Alto should shut the F up really quick.

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  6. Re:Wow, Commiefornia! by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is tremendously unconstitutional.

    While I appreciate the point, it's no more unconstitutional than any other zoning ordnance or land use regulation.

    That said, it's a perfect demonstration of why you want government to have as little power as possible.

  7. Re:Wow, Commiefornia! by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Works for Houston

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/...

    As to your point, I just love the idea of the politically connected driving me from my home or destroying my business.

  8. Re:Lol by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the difference between a city and an industrial park?

    One has residents, and infrastructure for residents. The other does not.

    I did not read TFA, (it's traditional), but it sounds like this mayor wants to do the following:

    1) light commercial zones must not be exploited for yet more satellite office buildings, and needs to stay as strip malls, gas stations, dollar general stores, et al.

    2) satellite office construction projects will have to seek different zoning from light commercial, to avoid having the problems proposal 1) seeks to address.

    The headline sounds sensational-- "oh noes! Coders not welcome in Palo alto!"

    I read him differently. "People actually live in Palo alto. They need to be able to buy gas and groceries without having to drive all the way to San jose. Light commercial zoning currently covers both the circle k, and pallantir's new office building. There is only so much real estate in Palo alto. Only so much of that can be light commercial. Only so much of the limited light commercial property can be office buildings, if people are going to live in Palo alto, they need light commercial that actually sells products, like a circle k does. We want to make it so new office proposals do not eliminate all other forms of light commercial, no matter how much money they have to wave around."

  9. Re:Lol by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Increase the density allowed and allow building of mid and high rise appartments inside of SF and other bay area suburbs. Not an instant fix, but it would fix it over a decade.

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